[BurlyShirley]

What do you guys think of the Chechnya situation?

I remember as a kid in Jr. High watching this report on "Channel 1" which is a news show geared toward kids. The report made it seem as if the chechens were just a peaceful people and that the evil russians were just "coming down on them" with an iron fist because they hated freedom. Well, later i learned this to be my first issue with liberally biased media. Nowhere in the report did it ever mention that chechnya is completely surrounded by russia. Nowhere did it mention the cruel terrorist acts the chechens use to try and "liberate" themselves.
These days, "chechens" make up a large part of al queda. They fought alongside the Taliban in Afghanistan as 'freedom fighters'. They're anti-american muslim extremists. I have heard that the al queda guys in the berg beheading video spoke arabic with a russian accent. My guess is that they are likely Chechens.
They also gassed those people and took them hostage int hat russian theater a year or so ago.

The worst thing i have EVER seen is the video of the chechen rebel slitting a russian soldier's throat on video while stepping on his head.

What is you all's understanding of the chechnya situation, and where do you stand on the issue?

 

[Andyman_1970]

Originally posted by BurlySurly
What do you guys think of the Chechnya situation?

I remember as a kid in Jr. High watching this report on "Channel 1" which is a news show geared toward kids. The report made it seem as if the chechens were just a peaceful people and that the evil russians were just "coming down on them" with an iron fist because they hated freedom. Well, later i learned this to be my first issue with liberally biased media. Nowhere in the report did it ever mention that chechnya is completely surrounded by russia. Nowhere did it mention the cruel terrorist acts the chechens use to try and "liberate" themselves.
These days, "chechens" make up a large part of al queda. They fought alongside the Taliban in Afghanistan as 'freedom fighters'. They're anti-american muslim extremists. I have heard that the al queda guys in the berg beheading video spoke arabic with a russian accent. My guess is that they are likely Chechens.
They also gassed those people and took them hostage int hat russian theater a year or so ago.

The worst thing i have EVER seen is the video of the chechen rebel slitting a russian soldier's throat on video while stepping on his head.

What is you all's understanding of the chechnya situation, and where do you stand on the issue?

Once you involve (on purpose) non-combatants I believe a oganization steps over the line of freedom fighter/rebel to terrorist.

 

[BurlyShirley]

HERE is a link to a fairly biased rundown of the situation.

 

[valve bouncer]

Originally posted by Andyman_1970
Once you involve (on purpose) non-combatants I believe a oganization steps over the line of freedom fighter/rebel to terrorist.

So you're saying the Russians are terrorists? Plenty of hard evidence of deliberate Russian targetting of civilians in Chechnya mate. Boy the world sure has changed when the right wing Genghis Khan frothing at the mouth brigade are supporting the Russians.
And before you all start blustering I think the Chechens are just as bad if not worse as the nascent Chechen state seemed little more than a gangster-ocracy.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Originally posted by Andyman_1970
Once you involve (on purpose) non-combatants I believe a oganization steps over the line of freedom fighter/rebel to terrorist.

like the US did to japan in WW2? It goes deeper than that.

 

[Silver]

Originally posted by valve bouncer
Boy the world sure has changed when the right wing Genghis Khan frothing at the mouth brigade are supporting the Russians.

Not really. We just traded in the bad guy. First it was the Weimar Republic, then we had Hitler, then Stalin and the Russians who gave us the blessing of communism, and now we've finally caught up to the rest of the world and are blaming terrorists.

The right wing Genghis Khan brigage (love that!) don't care who we are fighting, as long as we are fighting someone.

 

[sshappy]

Originally posted by valve bouncer
So you're saying the Russians are terrorists? Plenty of hard evidence of deliberate Russian targetting of civilians in Chechnya mate. Boy the world sure has changed when the right wing Genghis Khan frothing at the mouth brigade are supporting the Russians.
And before you all start blustering I think the Chechens are just as bad if not worse as the nascent Chechen state seemed little more than a gangster-ocracy.

The break up of the former soviet union has truly made the world a safer, more peaceful and more prosperous place...

 

[sshappy]

Originally posted by BurlySurly
HERE is a link to a fairly biased rundown of the situation.

Why do you state that is is biased?

 

[Andyman_1970]

Originally posted by BurlySurly
like the US did to japan in WW2? It goes deeper than that.

Duh, I totally spaced that.................now I'm thinking..........

 

[Westy]

The Russians were the ones who released the gas in the theater.

No matter how you want to look at it, it is a very ugly situation. There has been an escalation of violence by both sides and both have civilian blood on their hands. The Russians just aren't as successfull with their heavy handed tactics anymore. Not sure if it is because of international scrutiny or the fact that their soldiers get paid nothing.