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Cheney and Gonzalez indicted
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It's the thought that counts stinko, I think your thread title is funnier...... Almost as funny as your other title. 
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Cheneys_lawyer_files_motion_to_quash_indictment.html
RAYMONDVILLE — Willacy County prosecutor Juan Angel Guerra stumped a presiding judge and attorneys for clients as high up as Vice President Dick Cheney when he failed to show up to court on his own grand jury’s indictments.
The no-show infuriated attorneys who’d spent the day milling about with what they’d hoped would be slam-dunk motions to quash the cases.
And it put Presiding Judge Manuel Bañales in a position he said he’d never been in before.
“At the very least I expected the district attorney to be here,” Bañales said, asking Guerra’s office manager, “Do you know where he is?”
The manager, Hilda Ramirez, was subpoenaed by defense attorney J.A. “Tony” Canales when buzz circulated in the courthouse that Guerra was nowhere to be found.
Canales summoned Ramirez to act as representative for Guerra in hopes the motions could go forward.
She told the judge she had been trying to reach Guerra all day.
When Bañales asked if she were concerned for Guerra’s safety she said she would not know how to answer the question.
Guerra’s cell phone message box was full much of the day, but an assistant who answered the line late Wednesday said he was not ill.
Bañales said he would not hear the motions without the state present and set arraignments for Friday morning.
He allowed all defendants to waive court appearances and appear via their lawyers and set a jury to be called Dec. 8.
“The State of Texas is entitled to have its day in court,” he said.
Guerra, a 53-year-old Rio Grande Valley prosecutor who drew national attention for suing counterparts in the county justice system and staging a protest with barnyard animals, long has alleged high-ranking corruption in the deals that brought the impoverished county a $60 million immigration detention center.
On Monday, he got a grand jury to sign off on a slew of indictments including an acceptance of honorarium charge against state Sen. Eddie Lucio Jr., and an engaging in organized criminal activity charge against Cheney and Gonzales.
Cheney is accused of contributing to the neglect of federal immigration detainees by contracting for-profit prisons.
“By working through corporations as prisons for profit, Defendant Richard Cheney has committed at least misdemeanor assaults of our inmates and/or detainees,” the indictment reads, adding that a “money trail” can be traced to Cheney's substantial investments in the Vanguard Group, which invests in privately run prisons.
This morning, attorneys filed motions to quash indictments "for prosecutorial vindictiveness and failure to allege an offense."
"In most of the indictments, the prosecutor identifies himself as the victim. The prosecutor has usurped for himself the role of prosecutor, judge, victim, and director of the grand jury. His conflict of interest and abuse of office require that he be stopped," Canales said.
A number of experts were shaking their heads at the indictment.
Shannon Edmonds of the Texas District and County Attorneys Association, after reviewing a faxed copy of the indictment against Cheney and Gonzales, said he’d never seen one like it.
“It’s a creative indictment, but I don’t think it properly alleges any crime,” Edmonds said. “It’s more of just a rambling narrative … I think a court will find that it’s legally insufficient in that it fails to allege a crime.”
Chip B. Lewis, a prominent criminal defense lawyer in Houston whose clients have included former Enron chairman Ken Lay, said, “It’s a shame. I’m not a Cheney supporter by any means. I’m Democrat. But the misuse of our criminal justice system is apparent … It just smacks of partisanship and it’s a shame that credence can be lent to this type of charge because you have a grand jury indictment.”
Lewis said, “I don’t think he (Cheney) will ever spend a day in court.”
That's right, the DA for Cheney's and Gonzalez's case goes missing.
RAYMONDVILLE — Willacy County prosecutor Juan Angel Guerra stumped a presiding judge and attorneys for clients as high up as Vice President Dick Cheney when he failed to show up to court on his own grand jury’s indictments.
The no-show infuriated attorneys who’d spent the day milling about with what they’d hoped would be slam-dunk motions to quash the cases.
And it put Presiding Judge Manuel Bañales in a position he said he’d never been in before.
“At the very least I expected the district attorney to be here,” Bañales said, asking Guerra’s office manager, “Do you know where he is?”
The manager, Hilda Ramirez, was subpoenaed by defense attorney J.A. “Tony” Canales when buzz circulated in the courthouse that Guerra was nowhere to be found.
Canales summoned Ramirez to act as representative for Guerra in hopes the motions could go forward.
She told the judge she had been trying to reach Guerra all day.
When Bañales asked if she were concerned for Guerra’s safety she said she would not know how to answer the question.
Guerra’s cell phone message box was full much of the day, but an assistant who answered the line late Wednesday said he was not ill.
Bañales said he would not hear the motions without the state present and set arraignments for Friday morning.
He allowed all defendants to waive court appearances and appear via their lawyers and set a jury to be called Dec. 8.
“The State of Texas is entitled to have its day in court,” he said.
Guerra, a 53-year-old Rio Grande Valley prosecutor who drew national attention for suing counterparts in the county justice system and staging a protest with barnyard animals, long has alleged high-ranking corruption in the deals that brought the impoverished county a $60 million immigration detention center.
On Monday, he got a grand jury to sign off on a slew of indictments including an acceptance of honorarium charge against state Sen. Eddie Lucio Jr., and an engaging in organized criminal activity charge against Cheney and Gonzales.
Cheney is accused of contributing to the neglect of federal immigration detainees by contracting for-profit prisons.
“By working through corporations as prisons for profit, Defendant Richard Cheney has committed at least misdemeanor assaults of our inmates and/or detainees,” the indictment reads, adding that a “money trail” can be traced to Cheney's substantial investments in the Vanguard Group, which invests in privately run prisons.
This morning, attorneys filed motions to quash indictments "for prosecutorial vindictiveness and failure to allege an offense."
"In most of the indictments, the prosecutor identifies himself as the victim. The prosecutor has usurped for himself the role of prosecutor, judge, victim, and director of the grand jury. His conflict of interest and abuse of office require that he be stopped," Canales said.
A number of experts were shaking their heads at the indictment.
Shannon Edmonds of the Texas District and County Attorneys Association, after reviewing a faxed copy of the indictment against Cheney and Gonzales, said he’d never seen one like it.
“It’s a creative indictment, but I don’t think it properly alleges any crime,” Edmonds said. “It’s more of just a rambling narrative … I think a court will find that it’s legally insufficient in that it fails to allege a crime.”
Chip B. Lewis, a prominent criminal defense lawyer in Houston whose clients have included former Enron chairman Ken Lay, said, “It’s a shame. I’m not a Cheney supporter by any means. I’m Democrat. But the misuse of our criminal justice system is apparent … It just smacks of partisanship and it’s a shame that credence can be lent to this type of charge because you have a grand jury indictment.”
Lewis said, “I don’t think he (Cheney) will ever spend a day in court.”
That's right, the DA for Cheney's and Gonzalez's case goes missing.
^^ That's a classic!
I was once sitting at a Chinese resturant here in Stockholm (only Chinese that I've liked..) and behind me, at a round table for 8, sat seven obvious Russian looking (and sounding) mafia dudes. At the eighth chair sat a US-American dude. They were all telling funny jokes to each other, and then I overheared the American dude say that "at a court where I was judge", and then he continued his story about a defendant that was totally crazy. That was pretty close after I had seen the raw material of a 6-7 hour interview with Kay Griggs. She revealed some scary stuff about how your country is run behind the curtains, and some other stuff too.
Do you know how it comes that their is a golden fringe around every US-American flag, in every US court, and what that in fact means?
http://www.kaygriggstalks.com/
http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=opera&rls=sv&q=kay+griggs&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&um=1&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#
She's a scholar from a family of security cleared military personell from Virginia, and a true patriot, who's faith is very strong, and that's why she got out of that mess mentally sound and can now tell an amazing story of how ****'s going down.
I was once sitting at a Chinese resturant here in Stockholm (only Chinese that I've liked..) and behind me, at a round table for 8, sat seven obvious Russian looking (and sounding) mafia dudes. At the eighth chair sat a US-American dude. They were all telling funny jokes to each other, and then I overheared the American dude say that "at a court where I was judge", and then he continued his story about a defendant that was totally crazy. That was pretty close after I had seen the raw material of a 6-7 hour interview with Kay Griggs. She revealed some scary stuff about how your country is run behind the curtains, and some other stuff too.
Do you know how it comes that their is a golden fringe around every US-American flag, in every US court, and what that in fact means?
http://www.kaygriggstalks.com/
http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=opera&rls=sv&q=kay+griggs&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&um=1&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#
She's a scholar from a family of security cleared military personell from Virginia, and a true patriot, who's faith is very strong, and that's why she got out of that mess mentally sound and can now tell an amazing story of how ****'s going down.
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I only break that one out for the really retarded stuff.
I'm trying to figure out if this is trolling, humor, or fo' shizzle-nizzle conspirasizzle tin-foil-hat-ism.
Heh, I'm not trolling, I could have been fooled, I'm always up in that shizzle.
It either means that the Illuminati controls everything we think and secret societies rule the world, or it is aesthetically pleasing, like a bow on a present.
Personally, I'm going with secret societies.
A US flag with a golden fringe around is a maritime flag. That means that when you step in that room, you practicly step on a navy vessel and therefore accept maritime law. And if l'm not misstaken, maritime law = court martial law? Well, that info came from a documentary (America freedom to fascism?), and combined with stuff Kay Griggs said I find it very likely.
Her ex husband was the highest inteligence officer (USMC) for the Northern Command (if I remember correctly), and she spoke of a variety of stuff ranging from how your justice system was F'd, to Cherry Marines and how they chose them from early years/pedofilism (highschool or maybe Skull & Bones?), eastern European SOF operaitves on US soil that were ordered to play mind tricks on her, Kabbalists within high ranking USMC's, 200.000 ex Nazi's that immigrated to the US after WWII, and more that I can't remember right now. Her husband was all up in that and explained all of this to her as he was so week/****ed in the head after all his experiances.
Youtube it, it was mindblowing.
Nope, it is just there to be aesthetically pleasing, it is the manufacturer's choice of whether to put the fringe on or not. The courts already addressed this, and said that it was frivolous to say that it belongs to the admiralty.
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That complicates stuff.
Let's just say, the pardon which Bush gives Cheney will cover any and all crimes committed in the last 8 years.