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Top Chinese general warns US over attack
By Alexandra Harney in Beijing and Demetri Sevastopulo and Edward Alden in Washington
Published: July 14 2005 21:59 | Last updated: July 15 2005 00:03


China is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the US if it is attacked by Washington during a confrontation over Taiwan, a Chinese general said on Thursday.


“If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,” said General Zhu Chenghu.

Gen Zhu was speaking at a function for foreign journalists organised, in part, by the Chinese government. He added that China's definition of its territory included warships and aircraft.

“If the Americans are determined to interfere [then] we will be determined to respond,” said Gen Zhu, who is also a professor at China's National Defence University.

“We . . . will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian. Of course the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds . . . of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese.”

Gen Zhu is a self-acknowledged “hawk” who has warned that China could strike the US with long-range missiles. But his threat to use nuclear weapons in a conflict over Taiwan is the most specific by a senior Chinese official in nearly a decade.

However, some US-based China experts cautioned that Gen Zhu probably did not represent the mainstream People's Liberation Army view.

“He is running way beyond his brief on what China might do in relation to the US if push comes to shove,” said one expert with knowledge of Gen Zhu. “Nobody who is cleared for information on Chinese war scenarios is going to talk like this,” he added.

Gen Zhu's comments come as the Pentagon prepares to brief Congress next Monday on its annual report on the Chinese military, which is expected to take a harder line than previous years. They are also likely to fuel the mounting anti-China sentiment on Capitol Hill.

In recent months, a string of US officials, including Donald Rumsfeld, defence secretary, have raised concerns about China's military rise. The Pentagon on Thursday declined to comment on “hypothetical scenarios”.

Rick Fisher, a former senior US congressional official and an authority on the Chinese military, said the specific nature of the threat “is a new addition to China's public discourse”. China's official doctrine has called for no first use of nuclear weapons since its first atomic test in 1964. But Gen Zhu is not the first Chinese official to refer to the possibility of using such weapons first in a conflict over Taiwan.

Chas Freeman, a former US assistant secretary of defence, said in 1996 that a PLA official had told him China could respond in kind to a nuclear strike by the US in the event of a conflict with Taiwan. The official is believed to have been Xiong Guangkai, now the PLA's deputy chief of general staff.

Gen Zhu said his views did not represent official Chinese policy and he did not anticipate war with the US.
 

Westy

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With Americas love for cheap $90 DVD players and China's economic need to sell us cheap crap no disputes would ever come to arms. Our two countries would bankrupt each other if any major disputes errupted.
 

reflux

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Westy said:
With Americas love for cheap $90 DVD players and China's economic need to sell us cheap crap no disputes would ever come to arms. Our two countries would bankrupt each other if any major disputes errupted.
It's unfortunate though that some Generals don't have degrees in economics.
 

MikeD

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golgiaparatus said:
YES! I love that $hit!
What did we do to piss them off?
Ummmm, support the government that claims to be the legitimate government of China, and prevent them from destroying this government or taking back the land they consider rightfully theirs?

Stop North Korea, their client state, from taking over South Korea and thus expanding their hegemony and removing a potentially destabilizing democratic element in their local area?

Not that I think China can't go **** itself over Taiwan, or that we shouldn't hav fought the Korean War, but you act like it's a mystery as to why China wouldn't like us...

By the way, the Chinese and North Korean schoolkids are taught that the Korean War was started by the US in an attempt to prevent the Korean population from self-determining into a unified Communist state. (Then again, the average Chinese man wonders how we're taught such ****ed-up stuff in school, too...)

MD
 

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clancy98 said:
wait a minute. Changleen is telling us America sucks? Has hell frozen over?
Woah, for a minute there I thought you were actually going to contribute something. Better luck next time.
 

Changleen

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Just to clarify, Clancy - I'm criticising the current occupants of the White House, not America as a whole (except when it buys into the ****). Can you spot the subtle difference?
 

Changleen

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DRB said:
Not close, the samething....
Yah, fair enough.

However, this is from a maverick General whose comments have been played down by many other officials. In the case of the US, the right to preemptive nuclear strike is actual documented policy.

Actually thinking about this, haven't Israel said the same thing basically? Something about using whatever means necassary to defend themselves? Although they still won't confirm or deny the existance of their nuclear arsenal, so it's a bit of stoopid one..
 

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Changleen said:
Yah, fair enough.

However, this is from a maverick General whose comments have been played down by many other officials. In the case of the US, the right to preemptive nuclear strike is actual documented policy.
That's an oxymoron. Maverick General in the Chinese military. No such animal. Even with subsequent clarifications or statements that his statements don't accurately reflect CURRENT Chinese Military policy that cat was let out the bag for reason. It was a clear message that could be attributed to a "maverick" general but was certainly meant to be a warning or threat.

Changleen said:
Actually thinking about this, haven't Israel said the same thing basically? Something about using whatever means necassary to defend themselves? Although they still won't confirm or deny the existance of their nuclear arsenal, so it's a bit of stoopid one..
They haven't specifically admitted it, everyone knows it. Probably as early as the late 60s. They said over and over that they would use all weapons at their disposal to repel attacks on their territory. It is suspected that the closest they ever came to using them was 1973. The policy was similar to that of NATO in the 70's. They would use tactical nuclear weapons to slow Warsaw Pact if they invaded Western Europe and they couldn't stem the tide.
 

Changleen

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DRB said:
That's an oxymoron. Maverick General in the Chinese military. No such animal. Even with subsequent clarifications or statements that his statements don't accurately reflect CURRENT Chinese Military policy that cat was let out the bag for reason. It was a clear message that could be attributed to a "maverick" general but was certainly meant to be a warning or threat.
I don't think China is quite that repressive. People can do and say things without asking. Still, you're probably right in this case.