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Monkey
Feb 23, 2006
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LordOpie said:
Why are christians okay with Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, and all the other pagan references?

Well, I guess it depends on how you would personally perceive the situation if you are a Christian (which I am not):

1. You follow the accepted modern day popular Christian belief that all Pagans (Wiccans/Neopagans) are some how associated with Satan, evil witchcraft, and human/animal ritualistic sacrifice. Which could therefore make a Christian or Catholic very uncomfortable with the idea of paying respect to such potentially reinvented ancient Pagan God references such as St. Nicholas, who could quite possibly be a recycled version of the ancient Greek God Poseidon, the Roman God Neptune, and the Teutonic God Hold Nickar.

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2. You’re a Christian that understands how being a Pagan is actually the furthest thing from being evil. "Paganism" in the proper sense refers to a range of spiritual paths which are Earth centered -- involving their members living in harmony with the Earth and observing its cycles. These are often Neopagan religions based on the deities, symbols, practices, seasonal days of celebration and other surviving components of ancient religions, which had been long suppressed and wiped out in the name of the Bible. Institutionalized religion such as Christianity and Catholicism are mostly responsible for the tarnishing of the Pagan belief system by creating such myths as creepy snakes and human sacrifices, therefore convincing the people of the Church that Pagans were evil, and then rounding them up for execution.


We should keep in mind the following:
Pagans were routinely murdered for hundreds of years dating back to the 15th century and on. For several centuries, predominantly Christian societies have believed that Satan was acting through Pagans and their forms witchcraft. It was commonly accepted that the witch-hunts developed in Europe after the Cathars and the Templar Knights were exterminated and the Inquisition had to turn to persecution of witches to remain active. In the 1970‘s, this hypothesis was disproved by two historians (Cohn 1975; Kieckhefer 1976). They tried to show that the pursuit originated amongst common people in Switzerland and in Croatia.

When convicted of Paganism or Witchcraft it basically meant off with your head. Some of the more common forms of execution included burning at the stake, hanging from the Gallows Pole, or a brutal drowning of the victim. Historical persecution estimates of witches and pagans have been cited at an astonishing figure of nine million casualties during the Euro-Witch Hunts, most of whom were female. To date, the majority of such trials have been conducted within Christian, European, and American cultures.

And this is the best part; These trials were justified in those contexts with reference to the Bible’s prescription: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." (Exodus 22:18)

In my opinion, displaying a prime example of true sinister intent.

I’m with Transcend, don’t let religion run your life and there won’t be such disgraceful things as witch hunts.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Silver said:
Most of them don't know and are too stupid or blissfully ignorant to find out.
I have to imagine that's the priary reason, but suppose that's true... if you were a christian, wouldn't you go, "hey, wtf does a bunny have to do with anything?"

When my jews complain about these things in public places, I tell them that xtians should be more offended then we should :rolleyes:
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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Why Santa and the Easter Bunny? That's easy, why should Jesus get to be the only imaginary character at these times. ;) (sorry Andy- just yankin' ya chain)
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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Um, call me crazy, but I dont think christians actually believe in Santa or the Easter Bunny. It just makes it fun and interesting for kids. Why is that an issue?
 
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luelling

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Connundrum1 said:
because it was a compromise made by christians to force their religion onto other cultures as well, and the other cultures wouldn't take it unless their own parts were minimally taken in as well.
AGREED
 
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luelling

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BurlyShirley said:
Um, call me crazy, but I dont think christians actually believe in Santa or the Easter Bunny. It just makes it fun and interesting for kids. Why is that an issue?
It has to do with the days bro....they are of extreme siginifance in Christianity but where also days of signicance in Pegan religions as well. The easter bunny and SC have nothing to do with this discussion
 

DaveW

Space Monkey
Jul 2, 2001
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LordOpie said:
Why are christians okay with Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, and all the other pagan references?

An attempt to overwrite earlier seasonal festivals from older religions, and mixed in with standard run of the mill religious hypocrisy as far as I can see. :think:
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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luelling said:
It has to do with the days bro....they are of extreme siginifance in Christianity but where also days of signicance in Pegan religions as well. The easter bunny and SC have nothing to do with this discussion
I know dude, what Im saying is that it really doesnt matter NOW cause its all just fairy tales. Christians dont "care" because it simply doesnt matter.
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
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Connundrum1 said:
because it was a compromise made by christians to force their religion onto other cultures as well, and the other cultures wouldn't take it unless their own parts were minimally taken in as well.
We have a winner.................there was an attempt late in the 2nd century and early in the 3rd century to erase any of the Hebraicness of the early roots of the Jesus movement.