Chrysler's problem - "We make cars too reliable"
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I think he meant to say Toyota makes cars too reliable.
If he actually said that, if there is a God, it should have been followed by a bolt of lightning
Their problem is they make cars only old people like - how many more cars is your granny going to buy in her lifetime?
I'm talking minivans & pt cruisers... the companies bread and butter.
actually their bread and butter is the LX cars i.e.: charger, 300, challenger and magnum.
your granny is an overweight, old bald guy with his shirt half-unbuttoned and gold chains visible through his chest hair? damn, she is cooler than anyone else in the world...
well shes actually dead, i was just making a point that they do make cool cars, one of which actually has the fastest lap time around the 'Ring. which seems to be a huge debate on how "great" a car is
did you find the article yet? cause ive been looking for it too and couldnt find it
I think my friends Durango is on transmission #5. I would have sold it the moment the warranty expired with that record.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/09/03/098546.html
Charger sales are mostly due to rental fleets, the Magnum was their 2nd worst seller after the Viper (it's being discontinued, I think), and the Town & Country and the Caravan were the highest sellers (#1 & #2).
edit: that's for the month, YTD the Magnum's #s are a bit better...
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im talking about all of the LX cars. and yes the Magnums are being disco'd.
My parents just bought their "retirement" cars. My mom bought a Sebring convertible, my dad bought a Jeep Liberty because they are good to tow behind the motor home...
Chrysler's image wasn't build in the last five years, when I think Chrysler I think mini van.
For 30 years Chrysler has had brilliant, forward-thinking market strategists and designers, coupled with the ****tiest execution possible.
They brought into the mainstream the SUV, the minivan, the american supercar, the mega-pickup, the american sedan, to name a few. Always at the front of the trend. Unfortunately, they were put together with bubble gum and transmissions that fell off if you sneezed. And the interiors were abominations.
For them to claim that the products were too high-quality either demonstrates that the CEO actually has no clue what the company was really doing right and wrong, or that he considers congress and American public to be even stupider than he is.
They brought into the mainstream the SUV, the minivan, the american supercar, the mega-pickup, the american sedan, to name a few. Always at the front of the trend. Unfortunately, they were put together with bubble gum and transmissions that fell off if you sneezed. And the interiors were abominations.
For them to claim that the products were too high-quality either demonstrates that the CEO actually has no clue what the company was really doing right and wrong, or that he considers congress and American public to be even stupider than he is.
more stupid please...
i have seen a ton of Libertys or Rav4's towed behind motor homes.
very true. they did invented the mini van and its looked about the same for the past 15 years
when i think of them, i think of the 1971 Hemi Cuda
Designwise the big three, and probably foremost Chrysler, have made a great comback this decade after some 20-30 years of mostly design blunders. 80s and 90s was an immitation of Japanese lack of design in an American way, and the seventies was so-so with some wack designs and some nice ones.
Interior designs have pretty much been the worst in the business (dunno about current models), with exception of the Pacer (in yellow exterior) that had a supercool beige interior with native American style patterns on the seats. The corvettes have been OK too.
Interior designs have pretty much been the worst in the business (dunno about current models), with exception of the Pacer (in yellow exterior) that had a supercool beige interior with native American style patterns on the seats. The corvettes have been OK too.
Ummm, my point was that their LX cars sales are dwarfed by minivans and the Ram Pickup. That means they're not Chrysler's "bread and butter".
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The K-Car?
If it fits a gunrack, I'll take it with a big buffalo head up front with massive horns, and a "don't mess with Texas" sticker on the trunk.
nly in America... 
Such nice chrome details and everything on that VW bus! They should have produced that retro camper bus they had on an autoshow some 5, or so, years back. Instead they came out with the T5, another boring boxtype bus. Design isn't VW biggest quality..
I think the Germans would prefer you called it a micro bus - 56HP needs all the dignity it can get. 
mainstream minivan, vw was the first.
i saw a guy with a bumper sticker on his bus saying "only 56hp, please pass on left"I think the Germans would prefer you called it a micro bus - 56HP needs all the dignity it can get.
that would be awesome
sorry, best i could do.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2007/12/porsche-911-turbo-powered-vw-bus-0-to.html
the other site w/ the old vw bus and 911 engine has been removed
Found this on another board, sure it's about Ford but the same concept applies I think...
Those are early 50's buses...25hp is all they got.I think the Germans would prefer you called it a micro bus - 56HP needs all the dignity it can get.
That was badass for a T5 VW, also liked the black crew cab pickup! I wonder how long a T1 would make it with that engine before it was too warped to be driven..
The T3 was the last good looking bus they made:
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/04/volkswagen-bus-wrx-yes-its-subaru.html
From experience: One needs to cut a little sheet metal, but it works.
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You did your own, got any nice pics?
Re: the mini/micro bus - I didn't say Chrysler was the first. I said they were the first to popularize those vehicles for the American market. The Cherokee wasn't the first SUV either; it was the first SUV with broad, mainstream appeal. The RAM wasn't the first massive pickup; it was the first pickup to convince your average consumer (vs. commercial/pro user) that they needed a ridiculously large truck. The Viper came after the Shelby Cobra, the GT40, and a few others but it was the first to strike the balance of accessibility and ultra performance needed for volume sales.
Re: the K car and a few other attempts - part of the reason Chrysler could be at the forefront of trends was that they took more risks than the other two (PT Cruiser, Prowler, Magnum, 300C were all cars the other two never could have introduced). More risk means more success and more failure. The K-car actually did quite well... from wikiP:
Re: the K car and a few other attempts - part of the reason Chrysler could be at the forefront of trends was that they took more risks than the other two (PT Cruiser, Prowler, Magnum, 300C were all cars the other two never could have introduced). More risk means more success and more failure. The K-car actually did quite well... from wikiP:
I'm not defending Chrysler. I think they build piles of ****. I'm pointing out that they do actually have some strengths but even their management doesn't seem to realize what those are.