[Changleen]

This made me laugh laugh laugh out loud this morning...

The archbishop told Il Giornale: "The book is everywhere. There is a very
real risk that many people who read it will believe that the fables it
contains are true."

And amazingly he is NOT talking about the bible!!!! Hahahahaha.

Article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4350625.stm

Also see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/4350777.stm

 

[Andyman_1970]

The funny thing is it's the Catholic church that propogated many (or allowed them at one time) of those "fables" and now it's biting them in the butt.

 

[BuddhaRoadkill]

If you want to believe every word in a book that's clearly a work of fiction then that's your choice. You could also believe every word written in The Da Vinci Code as well.

This from a readers response on the BBC, friggin high larry ass.

It's amusing they use the quote of Dan Brown claiming "that the art, architecture, secret rituals and societies depicted in the novel are historical fact" when he has also come out and said the "story" is fiction. Gotta love spin.

 

[Andyman_1970]

It's amusing they use the quote of Dan Brown claiming "that the art, architecture, secret rituals and societies depicted in the novel are historical fact" when he has also come out and said the "story" is fiction. Gotta love spin.

Yes those things existed, but they existed 1000-1200 years after the events they claim to have "special knowledge of" happened - not to mention that the time span between the events and those with "special knowledge" was during a time when historical accuracy and the science of archeology were not first and foremost when passing on information of this type.

The claim that the Da Vinci Code is somehow based on facts is as ridiculous as those who "claim" the Left Behind books are plausible............

 

[arboc!]

dan browns books are fiction, but they are written like non-fiction, and people belive that they are true, and there in lies the problem. i enjoied the books, they were creative, now im in high school, and i knew these were just simply fictions books with true facts scattered about.

 

[JMAC]

This from a readers response on the BBC, friggin high larry ass.

It's amusing they use the quote of Dan Brown claiming "that the art, architecture, secret rituals and societies depicted in the novel are historical fact" when he has also come out and said the "story" is fiction. Gotta love spin.

It's funny that many people consider the bible historical fact.
I think it's time I read The DeVinci code.

 

[Tenchiro]

I am suprised by how many people don't realize that the Divinci Code is fiction...

 

[jaydee]

It's all kind of like that Erich von Daniken book "Chariots of the Gods". A lot of the raw information in the book was accurate, but the interpretations and correlations were absolutely off the wall. The Da Vinci Code contains a lot of fact and indisputed statements. The fiction comes in when they are put together into a story. Brown is offering a "what if" type of exercise and whipping up a good yarn. I think his objective is entertainment (and $$$$$$), not to convince people of anything.

 

[Changleen]

I am suprised by how many people don't realize that the Divinci Code is fiction...

From reading those BBC comments I'd have to agree with you. Quite scary. Kinda helps explain religion though...

I especailly love the force of the reaction from the Catholics.

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 at 07:44 JST
ROME — The Catholic Church has come out swinging against "The Da Vinci Code," dismissing as a collection of "shameful and unfounded lies" the worldwide bestseller about the Vatican suppressing the fact that Jesus had a child.

"Don't read it, and above all, don't even buy 'The Da Vinci Code,'" Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, former deputy head of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Doctrine of the Faith, told Vatican radio on Tuesday.

"Whatever you do, OK, whatever you do, dude, don't push that red button."

I recon the vatican owns a stake in the publishing company.

 

[Changleen]

Oh man they just keep coming out with this ****, it gets better and better.

"The book is a novel, and therefore a work of fiction," Brown says on his website, but that is unlikely to deter the Vatican attack.

 

[Changleen]

Really you can't make this **** up. Interlectuals are being called on to debunk a story. Random headline from Google News:

Yale man debunks Dan Brown's novel 'The Da Vinci Code'

ROFL - WTF? Next are we gonna be debunking Star Wars?

"A spokesman for the Traditional History Commision today called on people to remember that 'the force' is an undocumented phenomena and "as such it is unlikely that that such things happened along time ago in a galaxy far away". The spokesman also dismissed reports that the Deathstar had been sighted in the solar system.

 

[fluff]

I am suprised by how many people don't realize that the Divinci Code is fiction...

I am surprised by how many people can't spell Da Vinci

 

[valve bouncer]

I fuggen loath with a passion books that are written with a movie deal first and foremost in mind as this one obviously was.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

and i thought the society of the early 20th century was stupid. when they believed the radio story of welles about the E.T. invasion.....

 

[Andyman_1970]

To me I don't get all riled up about this book, if I can determine it's false (with respect to the Bible) then it can't be too terrible elaborate a "scheme".

So my question (thinking out loud here), is if it's openly fiction why is the church got it's britches in a wad about it? I suspect it's because for the most part Christians are not that well educated about their faith - which is a wonderful by-product of the "only read/listen to/watch things with a 'Christian' label on it" doctrine (the "Holy Bubble" mindset I call it - with homage to the Seinfeld episode with the boy in the bubble). Not all things Christian are good, and not all things not labeled Christian are bad.

The church is reaping what it has sown - it has sown an ideology of "don't think for yourself" (which is blatantly contrary to the Word of God) attitude and because of this their congregation is being swayed in the wind by every thing they see that "looks" Christian.

Anyway..........sorry for the rant..............

 

[Changleen]

The church is reaping what it has sown - it has sown an ideology of "don't think for yourself" (which is blatantly contrary to the Word of God) attitude and because of this their congregation is being swayed in the wind by every thing they see that "looks" Christian.

THe Church aren't the only ones to have used such a tactic. Dd you ever read 'The Middle Mind'?

 

[Andyman_1970]

THe Church aren't the only ones to have used such a tactic. Dd you ever read 'The Middle Mind'?

No what's it about?

 

[Changleen]

How western (mostly American - it's an American book) corporations and government have engineered society to stop thinking rationally or to take accountability for anything they do. How everything is always someone else's fault and how you never really are required to make a critical decision in modern society. Essentially the process of turning you into a good mindless consumer. Good mindless consumers do what they're told and buy what they're told to buy without question. Very sad and slightly scary, especially when you compare it to events like the public's buy-in of the Iraq invasion and post 9/11 reasoning.

 

[Andyman_1970]

How western (mostly American - it's an American book) corporations and government have engineered society to stop thinking rationally or to take accountability for anything they do. How everything is always someone else's fault and how you never really are required to make a critical decision in modern society. Essentially the process of turning you into a good mindless consumer. Good mindless consumers do what they're told and buy what they're told to buy without question. Very sad and slightly scary, especially when you compare it to events like the public's buy-in of the Iraq invasion and post 9/11 reasoning.

It's crazy when you watch commercials these days, and engage you brain and ask "what is the message here" - it usually has to do with having a "better" life if you buy this product, or you'll score a chick with big hoots.

So the game at my house is figure out what the commercials message is.

 

[Changleen]

It's crazy when you watch commercials these days, and engage you brain and ask "what is the message here" - it usually has to do with having a "better" life if you buy this product, or you'll score a chick with big hoots.

So the game at my house is figure out what the commercials message is.

Yes, and even worse is that even if you realise that it's being done to you, it's still really hard not to buy into it. :mumble:

 

[Andyman_1970]

it's still really hard not to buy into it. :mumble:

Esspecially those new Xterra commercials............those blasted marketers know how to push my demographic buttons........... :angry:

 

[$tinkle]

you (collective) do realize this is a wannabe techno thriller that uses an intelligent premise that makes the reader "feel smart" while they indulge in another bit of airplane reading fare, right?

how funny you should bring up xterrra, as it's an excellent metaphor for the da vinci code. think about it, and let the irony of convincing yourself i have a point sink in.

there. that's the look on your face you should have most of the day.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

It's crazy when you watch commercials these days, and engage you brain and ask "what is the message here" - it usually has to do with having a "better" life if you buy this product, or you'll score a chick with big hoots.

So the game at my house is figure out what the commercials message is.

lol.. lately i´ve seen some foreign commercials targeted on peruvians. in english and all. for expensive stuff like mercedes or bmw. we are kinda getting invaded...

but i´d say the US commercials are still very subtle.
here virtually EVERY beer commercial portraits a bunch of bad looking guys, that buy beer and then suddenly score ultra-hot chicks on tiny bikinis (no matter if they are not in a beach, or if its night) dancing on a 3girl to 1guy ratio.......

and even the kids show, like plaza sesamo, or dora the explorer, portrait the lead-girls in f...me boots hot shorts, and gym tops!!, singing, dancing and selling toys to kids... hahahahaha, just like the simpsons episode where bart watches brazillian kid shows...

 

[$tinkle]

for expensive stuff like mercedes or bmw.

i hope you don't mean brooklyn machine works, the only thing sillier than that is the 125 page thread in the downhill forum.

what the...?

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

i hope you don't mean brooklyn machine works, the only thing sillier than that is the 125 page thread in the downhill forum.

what the...?

hmm...i truly dont think there is that much of a market that justifies tv ads for 8k mountain bikes (after taxes), in a country where that is 7 years worth of minimal income....

 

[Changleen]

you (collective) do realize this is a wannabe techno thriller that uses an intelligent premise that makes the reader "feel smart" while they indulge in another bit of airplane reading fare, right?

how funny you should bring up xterrra, as it's an excellent metaphor for the da vinci code. think about it, and let the irony of convincing yourself i have a point sink in.

there. that's the look on your face you should have most of the day.

Sorry, I haven't seen the Xterra ad. You're gonna have to explain it to me or face the fact the rest of the day I'm gonna be wearing my normal satisfied grin.