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Climate change a National Security threat?

brenth

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Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..

A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.
Anybody see this yet?
 

Jr_Bullit

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I just read it...supposedly it came from the Pentagon, was repressed by our current administration, and a British paper got ahold of it...

If it's right, then we best all be taking classes on how to live off the land and kill people who want our food

If it's wrong...it definitely could incite a whole lotta trouble along the way of discovering that

Otherwise, I think I need to see more than just one article on it before I'm ready to buy in and start hording water. ;)
 

fluff

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Sep 8, 2001
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So maybe Tony Blair has been making sure of his retirement home in the US then?

Siberian climate? I'll eat my fur hat and thermal undies if that happens here by 2020.
 

valve bouncer

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Feb 11, 2002
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Originally posted by fluff
So maybe Tony Blair has been making sure of his retirement home in the US then?

Siberian climate? I'll eat my fur hat and thermal undies if that happens here by 2020.
But Fluff, don't you know the sky is falling??????????:rolleyes: ;)
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR
 

fluff

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Sep 8, 2001
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Originally posted by valve bouncer
But Fluff, don't you know the sky is falling??????????:rolleyes: ;)
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR
The best bit was the linked graphic which showed the world in 2050:

I like how the US gets away with no damage, there's no incentive for the wastrels of this world to reform after all....
 

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Jr_Bullit

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Well if we continue with business as usual, all that map is really doing is highlighting areas that already deal with those issues...lol...it's not a far stretch of the imagination that it will continue to get worse before it gets better...though I dunno about the timeline they've put into play.

I like how whatever area they couldn't put in a coloured block they simply left as "white" which shows 'water shortages'. :D It's a rather poorly done illustration, because if the world were to truly immerse in chaos as a result of climate changes, then most of those "problems" descirbed would occur in tandem and throughout the world...not just one problem here and one problem there.
 

LordOpie

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Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by fluff
I like how the US gets away with no damage, there's no incentive for the wastrels of this world to reform after all....
haha! That's cuz we don't whore ourselves out. Some of those problems are self-inflicted, so if another country wants to ruin their land, that's their problem :devil:

But like Jr_B said, those problems already exist, so it's not like some new revelation. I used to live in FL so I know that tropical storms in the carribean is normal and increasing... damn Africa, stop sending 'em! ;) :D
 

fluff

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Originally posted by LordOpie
haha! That's cuz we don't whore ourselves out. Some of those problems are self-inflicted, so if another country wants to ruin their land, that's their problem :devil:

But like Jr_B said, those problems already exist, so it's not like some new revelation. I used to live in FL so I know that tropical storms in the carribean is normal and increasing... damn Africa, stop sending 'em! ;) :D
Well dem Africans don't get much else to export since your good ole boys clamped down on that lucrative slave-tradin' gig.

Sheesh, it gets harder and harder to exploit the third world these days.
 

brenth

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Another article on same report

The report in fortune basically says the same sort of thing it just mentions that this report was not a forcast it was just a thinking about what might happen sort of thing.

The result is an unclassified report, completed late last year, that the Pentagon has agreed to share with FORTUNE. It doesn't pretend to be a forecast. Rather, it sketches a dramatic but plausible scenario to help planners think about coping strategies. Here is an abridged version:


Woods Hole report on Abrupt climate change
 

LordOpie

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Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by brenth
[BThe report in fortune basically says the same sort of thing it just mentions that this report was not a forcast it was just a thinking about what might happen sort of thing. [/B]
ha! They can't accurately predict the weather past 24 hours :p