[DaveW]

Lot's of fans are about to produce a brown spray.....

Tim Hollo (@timhollo@aus.social)

Attached: 1 image I'm finding it a little hard to work today with this in my head. Antarctic ice extent is now 6.4 standard deviations below the mean. That is, I'm reliably told, a one in 13 billion year event. We're about to see a lot of shit hit a lot of fans. And we are far from ready...

aus.social

 

[DaveW]

ain't no going back now folks.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

Lot's of fans are about to produce a brown spray.....

Tim Hollo (@timhollo@aus.social)

Attached: 1 image I'm finding it a little hard to work today with this in my head. Antarctic ice extent is now 6.4 standard deviations below the mean. That is, I'm reliably told, a one in 13 billion year event. We're about to see a lot of shit hit a lot of fans. And we are far from ready...

aus.social

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I liked this bit from the comments

I'd argue they are already "over", in that capitalism has morphed into technofeudalism and liberal democracy has been replaced by a new authoritarianism

 

[rideit]

Fukt

Forests Are Losing Their Ability to Hold Carbon

A new USDA report finds forests could become a major emitter of carbon by 2070

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[kidwoo]

Fukt

Forests Are Losing Their Ability to Hold Carbon

A new USDA report finds forests could become a major emitter of carbon by 2070

www.scientificamerican.com

the real and true legacy of the industrialized american so called conservation movement

 

[kidwoo]

why are american liberals?

Partners in Advocacy: Drink Sustainably with Fat Tire - Protect Our Winters

POW's August Partner in Advocacy is Fat Tire by New Belgium.

protectourwinters.org

for @Westy

 

[SkaredShtles]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/08/08/offshore-wind-energy-east-coast/

bUt wHaT AbOuT ThE WhAlEs?!?

 

[DaveW]

Pretty sure I posted something on this awhile back (but I can't be bothered searching so STFU).
Apparently this newspaper article became 111years old just the other day.

 

[kidwoo]

"few centuries"

heh

idiots

 

[SkaredShtles]

"few centuries"

heh

idiots

Just goes to show scientists know fuck-all about shit, amirite?? Fuckin' "scientists."

 

[kidwoo]

I'm so excited to be solving climate change with my ebike!

say hi to changleen!

 

[slyfink]

Pretty sure I posted something on this awhile back (but I can't be bothered searching so STFU).
Apparently this newspaper article became 111years old just the other day.

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is that for real?! as in, a real article?!

edited to add: apparently it is: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/13/fact-check-yes-1912-article-linked-burning-coal-climate-change/8124455002/ fuckin' hell.

 

[slyfink]

I'm so excited to be solving climate change with my ebike!

say hi to changleen!

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while aviation is not insignificant, road (passenger and freight) still eclipse it:

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-transport

so yeah, fly less. But even better, drive less, drive smaller cars, and don't buy as much shit. that still applies to the mega-rich, 1%ers we loathe so much. but also to a much broader swathe of society.

 

[slyfink]

the real and true legacy of the industrialized american so called conservation movement

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driven by climate change:

The loss of carbon absorption is driven in part by natural disasters such as wildfires, tornadoes and hurricanes, which are increasing in frequency and strength as global temperatures rise. The disasters destroy forestland, disrupting their ecosystem and decreasing their ability to absorb carbon, Riley said.

but also from people moving to the forested areas:

Development in forested areas, which the report projects will continue to increase, is having the same effect as people increasingly move to the so-called wildland urban interface.

though yes, better management could also play a role:

More aggressive forest management can help by cutting down a small portion of aging forests to make ways for younger trees that absorb more carbon, Riley said. A thorough study of each forest should be done before removing older trees, Riley said, comparing forest management to prescribing the proper drugs to a patient.

but my opinion on that is that our track record of geo-engineering the planet is.... spotty? not the best?

 

[kidwoo]

driven by climate change:

that thing the conservation movement has utterly failed to address while they worked on important things like chasing mountain bikers out of woods for 30 years.

 

[kidwoo]

while aviation is not insignificant, road (passenger and freight) still eclipse it:
View attachment 199013 https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-transport

so yeah, fly less. But even better, drive less, drive smaller cars, and don't buy as much shit. that still applies to the mega-rich, 1%ers we loathe so much. but also to a much broader swathe of society.

I saw a helitcopter land on the west shore of tahoe yesterday at mark zuckerbergs place on a flight tracker. Just commuting to work....200 miles away

It's just daunting to look at one tiny little snapshot in time of how many of those fucking things are in the air. And realize it's just continuous.

Clinging to car culture is the dumbest fucking thing ever.

 

[SkaredShtles]

<snip>
Clinging to car culture is the dumbest fucking thing ever.

And next time someone laments how it's not possible to do rail in the U.S. because of the vast distances/sparse populations involved, show them this 1919 map of rail lines in the U.S., when there were only ~104 million residents in the U.S.

 

[kidwoo]

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And next time someone laments how it's not possible to do rail in the U.S. because of the vast distances/sparse populations involved, show them this 1919 map of rail lines in the U.S., when there were only ~104 million residents in the U.S.

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thank the car manufacturers

Or in this case the shiny flammable toy manufacturer

https://jalopnik.com/did-musk-propose-hyperloop-to-stop-california-high-spee-1849402460

spoiler alert: "yes"

 

[SkaredShtles]

thank the car manufacturers

Interstate highway cost:

"The initial cost estimate for the system was $25 billion over 12 years; it ended up costing $114 billion (equivalent to $425 billion in 2006 or $558 billion in 2021) and took 35 years."

Just imagine if we dedicated a half-trillion dollars to rail.

 

[kidwoo]

Interstate highway cost:

"The initial cost estimate for the system was $25 billion over 12 years; it ended up costing $114 billion (equivalent to $425 billion in 2006 or $558 billion in 2021) and took 35 years."

Just imagine if we dedicated a half-trillion dollars to rail.

Would be so nice to read a book instead of dodging flaming teslas on the road or seeing a turbine fall off the wing of your plane because of shareholder value.

 

[SkaredShtles]

Would be so nice to read a book

It really is. Or watch the excellent scenery, or have a nice meal, or plan your next move when you get to your next destination... or even take a fuckin' nap.

Then the train drops you off somewhere like this:

 

[kidwoo]

don't rub it in rich guy

 

[SkaredShtles]

don't rub it in rich guy

Bootstraps!

 

[slyfink]

I saw a helitcopter land on the west shore of tahoe yesterday at mark zuckerbergs place on a flight tracker. Just commuting to work....200 miles away

It's just daunting to look at one tiny little snapshot in time of how many of those fucking things are in the air. And realize it's just continuous.

Clinging to car culture is the dumbest fucking thing ever.

ok, so we're in agreement. but then why are you harping on Changleen so much?!

 

[kidwoo]

ok, so we're in agreement. but then why are you harping on Changleen so much?!

because he's a self avowed climate change warrior who is quite honestly one of the worst consumers of all that makes the planet heat up. And uses the white washing veneer of carbon credits and (I shit you not) 'carbon neutral' beer (as in the product who's most unique feature is that it literally just boils off co2) to gloss over that fact while continuing to do the things he jumps on other people about, and at a higher rate even.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Ummm... @kidwoo harps on everyone,

 

[SkaredShtles]

Ummm... @kidwoo harps on everyone,

Well, yeah - that's his schtick, you see?

 

[kidwoo]

Ummm... @kidwoo harps on everyone,

Not like changleen though!

You have earn that kind of abuse

 

[kidwoo]

Well, yeah - that's his schtick, you see?

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

I’m still waiting on the list of @kidwoo approved clothing for one’s subversive lifestyle.

 

[kidwoo]

I’m still waiting on the list of @kidwoo approved clothing for one’s subversive lifestyle.

no such thing as approved pants

pants are a tool of oppression

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

no such thing as approved pants

pants are a tool of oppression

Um, yeah. Goes without saying. But what about shirts ? Even Florida man has to don one in winter. Jackets, socks, etc. Inquiring minds want to know these things. We all know you hate Pattagucci, so what brands might be found in your closet ? Or is it all artisanal, boutique, free range lama stuff ?

 

[DaveW]

Ummm... @kidwoo harps on everyone,

Kidwoo is a harpy?
Ok yeah I can see that.

Har•py
(ˈhɑr pi)

n., pl. -pies.
1. any of a group of winged supernatural beings of classical myth, two or three in number, portrayed by later authors as rapacious female monsters.

2. (l.c.) a scolding, bad-tempered woman; shrew.

3. (l.c.) a greedy, predatory person.

[1540–50; < Latin Harpȳia, singular of Harpȳiae < Greek Hárpȳiai (pl.), literally, snatchers, akin to harpázein to snatch away]

harp′y•like`, adj.

 

[SkaredShtles]

Kidwoo is a harpy?
Ok yeah I can see that.

Great - now I'm hungry for pies...

 

[kidwoo]

Um, yeah. Goes without saying. But what about shirts ? Even Florida man has to don one in winter. Jackets, socks, etc. Inquiring minds want to know these things. We all know you hate Pattagucci, so what brands might be found in your closet ? Or is it all artisanal, boutique, free range lama stuff ?

are you bored?

do you even know what my problem with patagonia is?

 

[6thElement]

Just imagine if we dedicated a half-trillion dollars to rail.

Or more hypersonic stealth tanks for @Jm_ !

 

[Jm_]

Or more hypersonic stealth tanks for @Jm_ !

WE R Number 1!

 

[jimmydean]

Eat the rich.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/17/business/rich-americans-climate-footprint-emissions/index.html

A new study published Thursday in the journal PLOS Climate found the wealthiest 10% of Americans are responsible for almost half of planet-heating pollution in the US, and called on governments to shift away from “regressive” taxes on the carbon-intensity of what people buy and focus on taxing climate-polluting investments instead.

 

[kidwoo]

Eat the rich.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/17/business/rich-americans-climate-footprint-emissions/index.html

in the 'related' box, lower left

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/17/europe/activists-vandalize-yacht-ibiza-climate-intl/index.html

 

[Pesqueeb]

https://apnews.com/article/spain-wildfire-tenerife-climate-canary-islands-heat-29397d0e8a5ce7c3e4162280b553c06e