cloning
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I don't see why not, I don't understand why people make such a big deal over it.
I bet if you got into the organing cloning and implant business, you could make a fortune. Especially if you could offer men, a superior wang .
I bet if you got into the organing cloning and implant business, you could make a fortune. Especially if you could offer men, a superior wang .
how about that one company who claims to have successfully cloned a person? They cloned Pantani!!!! I saw them on a talk show and it was obvious they are seriously looney. They make scientologists seem reasonable.
As far as real cloning, it is a legitamite science, but it shouldnt be used to "create" life, but to help with medical science. Its a slippery slope, but I dont think its as bad as its hyped up to be. So IMO, cloning cells for medicine - good. Cloning people or animals to make some "uber-sheep/person" - bad.
As far as real cloning, it is a legitamite science, but it shouldnt be used to "create" life, but to help with medical science. Its a slippery slope, but I dont think its as bad as its hyped up to be. So IMO, cloning cells for medicine - good. Cloning people or animals to make some "uber-sheep/person" - bad.
I think a monkey with 4 asses is probably a good idea.
Only if you can also teach him how to use it...:devil:Originally posted by Tenchiro
Especially if you could offer men, a superior wang .
I women did their job, there would be no need.
Hah! what's this, you only like starfish eh?
I think making clone babies is wrong. If you agree, please sign the petition: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/Godsendinstitute/signatures
MAN, I dont know what to make of that site, and that movie release couldnt have had better timing. I doubt that company can deliver what they promise, and theyre definatley pushing new boundries on ethics. Seems to me like they are trying to cash in on peoples misery. Im gonna have to say its bad. Crazy sh!t, Im gonna go on a ride and try to forget about it
Exactly.....I am with Tenchiro.
If they don't know what works for them, how are we supposed to know?
If they know than there is normally no problem...ladies take a look at yourself before you point the fingers at us. We get by just fine.A slight breeze, a phone ringing, a set of stairs,.....
it doesn't take much. 
Ladies don't think you have some magical ability other ladies don't.....it doesn't take much. In fact, if it takes forever, thank your man for lasting or wonder what you are doing wrong. 
I am soooooo dead.
Rhino
OK, someone PM me the meaning of that.....I am
Hey how is a man gonna know what he is doing wrong, if a woman doesn't teach him?
I just read their front page and this seemed to creep me out.
I don't think I am down for cloning dead children. Even if they are the same genetically they won't be the same child....unless this is like some scifi movie where the clone retains the childs memory all teh way up to death.
that would be creepy. If it is a fertility thing than why can't they have themselves fertilized without cloning....to combine the mother and fathers genes....unless they cando that to.
still creepy.I would say if you lost a child having them cloned is not going to bring them back.
Serious enough for you LO? If they want to grow an human ear on the back of a rat.......OK I can live with that.
What would happen if a cloned baby turned out to have serious health problems later in life? Say they had a serious mental health defect that made them prone to violence?
Would they be treated as humans, or as a product to just be disposed of.
Would they be treated as humans, or as a product to just be disposed of.
Interesting. When test tube babies first came out people were scared/intrigued by them....today it is no big deal.
I don't know hwo we would act.
but I like question you bring up. Citizen or organ donor?Rhino
someone from that site should tell the academic world how they've magically circumvented the problems that have prevented monkeys, let alone humans!, from being successfully cloned, notably the problem of mysteriously shortening telomeres. (translation: dolly was born old in essence. thus it's not too surprising that she died young...)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2764039.stm
oh, and rhino: i think starfish is meant as the ol' bum.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2764039.stm
oh, and rhino: i think starfish is meant as the ol' bum.
I have a new level of respect for Jr_B now.....Originally posted by Toshi
oh, and rhino: i think starfish is meant as the ol' bum.
She comes off so innocent and then WAM she blind sides me with something like that. lol 
fantastic JB!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are two things to bear in mind - that 'test-tube' babies are still relatively young and problems could still be uncovered (seems unlikely but is possible) - more importantly is that there are myriad problems in cloned animals leading to a high mortality rate. The technology is not ready to be used on people.
From the Roslin Institute (creators of Dolly):
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At first Dolly was a 'clone alone' but in August 1998, a group in Hawaii published a report of the cloning of over 50 mice by nuclear transfer. Since then, research groups around the world have reported the cloning of cattle, sheep, mice, goats and pigs. Equally competent groups have had no success in cloning rabbits, rats, monkeys, cats or dogs.
There are differences in early development between species that might influence success rate. In sheep and humans, the embryo divides to between the 8- and 16- cell stage before nuclear genes take control of development, but in mice this transition occurs at the 2 cell stage. In 1998, a Korean group claimed that they had cloned a human embryo by nuclear transfer but their experiment was terminated at the 4-cell stage and so they had no evidence of successful reprogramming.
Success rates remain low in all species, with published data showing that on average only about 1% of 'reconstructed embryos' leading to live births. With unsuccessful attempts at cloning unlikely to be published, the actual success rate will be substantially lower. Many cloned offspring die late in pregnancy or soon after birth, often through respiratory or cardiovascular dysfunction. Abnormal development of the placenta is common and this is probably the major cause of foetal loss earlier in pregnancy. Many of the cloned cattle and sheep that are born are much larger than normal and apparently normal clones may have some unrecognised abnormalities.
The high incidence of abnormalities is not surprising. Normal development of an embryo is dependent on the methylation state of the DNA contributed by the sperm and egg. and on the appropriate reconfiguration of the chromatin structure after fertilisation. Somatic cells have very different chromatin structure to sperm and 'reprogramming' of the transferred nuclei must occur within a few hours of activation of reconstructed embryos. Incomplete or inappropriate reprogramming will lead to dysregulation of gene expression and failure of the embryo or foetus to develop normally or to non-fatal developmental abnormalities in those that survive.
Improving success rates is not going to be easy. At present, the only way to assess the 'quality' of embryos is to look at them under the microscope and it is clear that the large majority of embryos that are classified as 'normal' do not develop properly after they have been implanted. A substantial effort is now being made to identify systematic ways of improving reprogramming. One focus is on known mechanisms involved in early development, and in particular on the 'imprinting' of genes. Another is to use technological advances in genomics to screen the expression patterns of tens of thousands of genes to identify differences between the development of 'reconstructed embryos' and those produced by in vivo or in vitro fertilisation.
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oh, and rhino: i think starfish is meant as the ol' bum.
Oh geez!
I swear I shoulda known better than to go home all nice and complacent like with my first two statements just sitting out there waiting to be misunderstood .A starfish, boys, is a girl who just lays on her back because the guy doesn't know how to use what he has, so she sits very very still.
And you're right rhino darlin...it doesn't take much for a guy, but then...if a guy knows how to use what he's got, it doesn't take much for a girl either
:devil:
No way man, I called the number it is totally real.Originally posted by Mackie
OK folks - just in case anyone believes this ****e - we all realize that this is an add for a movie, right?
"Dr. Wells" looks remarkably like Bobby D.
Oh wait, it IS Bobby D.
Too bad the movie looks like it sucks butt.
Could clone a baboon with a firefly and get a monkey with a glow in the dark ass... now that would be sweet!
The movie is based on this real lab. The clinic is suing them. And that's why you only get a recording... cuz they've been swamped with phone calls. The reason why it's all so similar is cuz the clinic focused solely on patenting/copyrighting their medical stuff and forgot to trademark all the marketing stuff.Originally posted by Mackie
OK folks - just in case anyone believes this ****e - we all realize that this is an add for a movie, right?
"Dr. Wells" looks remarkably like Bobby D.
Oh wait, it IS Bobby D.
Too bad the movie looks like it sucks butt.
Let's take it to the next level and merge a woman with a firefly so she'd have a glow in the dark ass.
If a girl just lays there, she doesn't know what to do. :devil:Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
Oh geez!
A starfish, boys, is a girl who just lays on her back because the guy doesn't know how to use what he has, so she sits very very still.
And you're right rhino darlin...it doesn't take much for a guy, but then...if a guy knows how to use what he's got, it doesn't take much for a girl either
:devil:
I like how woman blame their lack of skills on men. lol"Uh, he does't know how to give me one."
"Have you ever had one?"
"Uh, no 'cause no guy ever has done it right."
Learn what pushes your buttons and let the dude in on the secret. They are flying in the dark without guages if you dont tell them. If the guy is lucky and guesses right,he all of the sudden "knows how to use it."...no you lucked out. If you do let them know what works then you will enjoy it more. If you are a "starfish" then you have only yourself to blame....and that is a shame.
It really should be a team effort.Starfish girls just don't know what to do and blame it on guys lack of skill. Learn what you want, teach what works for you (ladies buttons are all in different spots) and stop blaming men for your own lack of skills.
And by "you" I mean all women and not specifically Jr_B I assume she "gets it" jsut fine. :devil:
lol I am in such a wierd mood this morning. If I offrended anyone I will delete or otherwise modify my post.
Rhino
It takes two to tango, baby.Originally posted by RhinofromWA
If a girl just lays there, she doesn't know what to do. :devil:
"Uh, he does't know how to give me one."
"Have you ever had one?"
"Uh, no 'cause no guy ever has done it right."
Learn what pushes your buttons and let the dude in on the secret. They are flying in the dark without guages if you dont tell them. If the guy is lucky and guesses right,he all of the sudden "knows how to use it."...no you lucked out. If you do let them know what works then you will enjoy it more. If you are a "starfish" then you have only yourself to blame....and that is a shame.
Starfish girls just don't know what to do and blame it on guys lack of skill. Learn what you want, teach what works for you (ladies buttons are all in different spots) and stop blaming men for your own lack of skills.
And by "you" I mean all women and not specifically Jr_B I assume she "gets it" jsut fine. :devil:
I am in such a wierd mood this morning. If I offrended anyone I will delete or otherwise modify my post.
Rhino