[BurlyShirley]

the headbut by rodman was clearly unintentional.

 

[Westy]

I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall and watched Buddy Ryan coach.

 

[LordOpie]

I'd like to know how many of the top successful college and pro level coaches got there by sticking with positive reinforcement. I'm guessing, ummm...NONE. The "rah rah go team", pat-on-the-back coaches do not last are not successful at the highest levels. That might work for pee wee and little league, but not college and pro.

And I'll tell you why...

my woman did consulting work for a restaurant last weekend. We were talking about it and she told me the best advice she received when she first started her career from her then mentor/boss, "Remind the staff to re-fill the water glass."

It's not just that, but it's a simple statement that people forget and/or get too complacent to do the little things that add up to success.

No cheerleader coach can get his players to do the important little discipline things with a pat on the back. It's the yelling in the face that's the reminding force.

Do you always do the little things properly 100% of the time at your job?

Hell, not even NASA does... remember one engineer used feet instead of meters by accident and crashed a probe into Mars?

 

[kidwoo]

Actually the consequences of poor negative reinforcement technique are clearly and graphically demonstrated by animals. .

Yes I have a dog, I'm familiar with the concept.

Most college kids are smarter than my dog.


When my buddies are standing at the top of a gnarly jump line, scared to do something I know they can, I don't hug them or give them treats.

 

[Jeremy R]

When my buddies are standing at the top of a gnarly jump line, scared to do something I know they can, I don't hug them or give them treats.

Ha, last week, I was debating whether I had the speed coming out of a corner to hit this double I just built. It was a small jump but you could not see it until you were right on it.
Anyway, I called my wife outside to see what she thought.
After the second time I rolled around it, she rolled her eyes and said,
"I knew you were not gonna jump it."
I then proceeded to hit the jump five times straight and have even built it bigger since.

 

[$tinkle]

Most college kids are smarter than my dog.

When my buddies are standing at the top of a gnarly jump line, scared to do something I know they can, I don't hug them or give them treats.

so, the bigger the pussy, the bigger the brain?

i can back that up: i have to follow my wingman down some gnar stuff, which is pretty stupid if we stack.

 

[syadasti]

When my buddies are standing at the top of a gnarly jump line, scared to do something I know they can, I don't hug them or give them treats.

So you tell them, "You'll never make it dude, you are going to die" or "You aren't ready" "Its impossible" and they nail it every time

I'm sure the good coaches tell their teams, "you guys suck, I hate my job, go out there and lose"

 

[kidwoo]

So you tell them, "You'll never make it dude, you are going to die" or "You aren't ready" "Its impossible" and they nail it every time

Since that's really the only other option, then yes, I guess that's exactly what I do.

I'm sure the good coaches tell their teams, "you guys suck, I hate my job, go out there and lose"

Again, look a little deeper. There's another avenue you haven't touched on yet. And not the stupid one you just insinuated.