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Collarbone Protection

Axis

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Jun 9, 2004
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My buddy broke his collarbone in 2 places yeaterday. What body armor/chest protector is the best for preventing this?
 

Pedalist

Monkey
Sep 20, 2003
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Clayton, NC
My friend broke his 3 months ago and had a rod put in it. I do not think that there is a good way to protect it. Most collarbones are not broken from a direct impact to the chest. They generally occur from landing on the shouler and those the bone gets crumpled. My friend landed on the side of his shoulder and head. I wear a motorcross style chest protector. He can not wear it now because it rubs him where he got his surgery. 661 makes a couple of different ones that my buddy says are compfortable. I still do not think it matters what kind you are wearing. If you land on the side of your shoulder hard enough something is gonna give. Most armor just keeps you from getting puncture wounds and scrapes anyway. It is kind of like saying that if you wear shin guards you can fall off of a ladder bridge and not brake your tibia. Hope this helps.
 

dw

Wiffle Ball ninja
Sep 10, 2001
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Same thing that happened to Pedalists buddy happened to me. I was armor free.

I now rock the Rockgardn Jacket, and that thing RULES. FOr me its a lot more comfortable than the Dainese jackets. Ive never had experience with anything else. Ive laid my shoulders into some trees pretty hard with the armor and never got a scratch. No jacket in the world could have kept my collarbone from breaking though.

dw
 

Joss DeWaele

Chimp
Jan 30, 2004
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The SLC
I think the body armor is useless unless you know how to fall first. All the collarbone injuries I have seen have resulted in awkward landings. My suggestion: take some judo to learn how to control your body at high speeds and distribute the force when you land. If you know how to land the right way, then any body armor will help in high-speed crashes.
 

DLo

Monkey
Feb 26, 2003
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South Bay Area, CA
bikesaregood said:
I think the body armor is useless unless you know how to fall first. All the collarbone injuries I have seen have resulted in awkward landings. My suggestion: take some judo to learn how to control your body at high speeds and distribute the force when you land. If you know how to land the right way, then any body armor will help in high-speed crashes.
I agree.. we had some judo instructor come in when were in high school (P.E. class), and they taught us how to roll and such. The guy said it would be very helpful in motorcycle crashes. Isn't the collarbone one of the most notorious for breaking in biking? The problem with me is, when I fall, my mind isn't telling me how to roll - it's saying "Oh sh*t Oh sh*t" while I'm in the air :mumble:
 

evilbob

Monkey
Mar 17, 2002
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Everett, Wa
DLo said:
The problem with me is, when I fall, my mind isn't telling me how to roll - it's saying "Oh sh*t Oh sh*t" while I'm in the air :mumble:
Sorry but I had to laugh at this comment....actually I mean laugh with it........so true so true. :mumble: ;) I have broken my left collar bone 4 times and never have I done it in a manner that armor could protect. One time I broke it, my shoulder never even touched anything, that was a speed skating fall and what hit was my elbow when I cartwheeled over. Armor can be built that would eleminate most broken collar bones in cycling however it would be heavy, reduce movement and be uncomfortable. I think the best thing is ....... don't fall :D :rolleyes: and don't look to me as an example on not falling because I have this stupid ankle thing going on from falling... :mumble: :mumble: :mumble: :evil:
 

JRogers

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Mar 19, 2002
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Claremont, CA
I broke my collarbone a while back; wasn't from biking but based on the way I fell and how easily it broke, I am convinced that armor generally does not do anything for collarbone protection. I fell sort of on my side, hit my shoulder and rolled and it broke right at impact. Basically, my shoulder just drove in and up and snapped the bone. I don't see how any armor could really protect that. Maybe an MX protector, but even then, it might not do a thing.
 

Dartman

Old Bastard Mike
Feb 26, 2003
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Richmond, VA
Axis said:
My buddy broke his collarbone in 2 places yeaterday.
Well d@mn! He better stay outta them places!! :D

Axis said:
What body armor/chest protector is the best for preventing this?
What everyone else said, not really. Learn to roll when you fall. I separated mine when I augered in and landed on my shoulder with my arm tucked into my body (which crushed the elbow). I wasn't wearing any armor at the time.

Mike
 

Spunger

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Feb 19, 2003
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I don't think there's one piece of protection for the collar bone. I've never seen one but at the speeds that you may hit on your bicycle it isn't going to stop you anyways.

I agree with "what your thinking when you fall", all I think about is it won't hurt, please don't break anything, and please don't break anything. I'd care less about falling and crashing, but the last thing I want is to break something, either a bone or spraine etc.... For me falling envolves some slow motion in my head. The camelback and rockgardn jacket help take up some of the impact pretty well though.

It's all toss of the luck. Some people get hurt going like 4mph and others it takes going 15+mph. It's just all with the moment when you fall.
 

JoeRay

Monkey
Feb 19, 2004
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In Squalor
Body armor to protect your collarbone is like trying to strap your shoulder so it doesn't dislocate, a big waste of time. Because your shoulder is a ball joint it's too mobile to protect. The collarbone is sort of an anchor for the whole shebang so I guess the same applies.

Never broke collar bone, but have dislocated shoulder twice. Hopefully will never have the opportunity to compare between the two.
 

JRogers

talks too much
Mar 19, 2002
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Claremont, CA
Spunger said:
I don't think there's one piece of protection for the collar bone. I've never seen one but at the speeds that you may hit on your bicycle it isn't going to stop you anyways.

I agree with "what your thinking when you fall", all I think about is it won't hurt, please don't break anything, and please don't break anything. I'd care less about falling and crashing, but the last thing I want is to break something, either a bone or spraine etc.... For me falling envolves some slow motion in my head. The camelback and rockgardn jacket help take up some of the impact pretty well though.

It's all toss of the luck. Some people get hurt going like 4mph and others it takes going 15+mph. It's just all with the moment when you fall.
Yeah, crashing all depends on the situation. I have taken some really really hard hits on my MTB and back when I played football for about 9 years. I've gotten stepped on, laid out, crushed, rolled over and just about anything else you can imagine. Aside from lots of bruises, scrapes, cuts, one concussion and some pulled muscles, I have not really gotten hurt. Only been too hurt to ride maybe 5-10 times and never missed a game.

The only bone I broke was my collarbone when I dove to tag someone in a heated game of capture the flag. How lame.

When I crash, sometimes it's slow motion and some sort of knowledge might help. A lot of times, I don't think anything would do any good. I am just riding and all of a sudden I'm on the ground with the wind knocked out of me.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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Check out the Casel-Equi armor.
; you can buy it from www.yodobike.com. Personally, I think it's rad. I had the Balfa-branded vest. The longsleeve version is cool, too. If anything can protect your collarbone from an impact, this is it...the foam really is great. I don't think ANYTHING is going to be 100% in an impact situation, but it's your best bet. It's unique armor, for sure, but I liked mine a lot. I like my Rockgardn, too, but I know it's not going to help my collarbones.

I definitely think knowing how to crash (and fall off 2-story roofs-I have a great amount of practice in eating sh1t of all kinds from a young age, plus Aikido experience) is part of it too...

MD