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College Help: Fort Lewis College, Mesa State, Colorado State, and University of Utah

Gnar

Chimp
May 14, 2004
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I've finally narrowed down my college choices! I need help from anyone who has attended or is attending these schools. First and foremost, how's the MTB trails and the Snowboarding. I've pretty much picked schools based on location for riding, and if they have a decent business program that shows me how to run my own business. Also, could you guys give me any useful information on the schools(Pros/Cons, useful tips) that you went, or are going to.

Appreciate the help!
 

gschuette

Monkey
Sep 22, 2004
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Well I moved from kind of close to your location for the same reason you did. Snow and bikes but mainly bikes. I go to SUU in Cedar City, UT. A few weeks ago I went skiing on a Friday in a ton of powder at Brianhead. The next day I went riding near Zion in 65degree weather. Zion and Brianhead are 45 and 20 minutes, respectively, from school. Uh sorry can't help on academics becaus I don't really care. I just want to ride. I have been told though that we have a good business program but it matters not to me because the riding is out of this world. I have ridden near your college choices and I like the riding better where I am at but hey different strokes...

Good luck!
 

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
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austin
why would trails be a factor in choosing a college? shouldn't things like tuition/ total cost, financial aid, placement rates, graduation rates, size, rank, etc, be more important? if you're interested in business, look up each school's business program(s), and see how they rank. just learning how to run your own business won't take very much education, in my opinion. as long you're descent with money, have common sense, and take basic level classes, i think you can do it just fine.

UC, Boulder is consistently ranked in the top 30 undergrad business schools...CSU is in 80s and 90s...U of Utah squeaked into the top 50 this year.
 

Gnar

Chimp
May 14, 2004
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the Inbred said:
why would trails be a factor in choosing a college? shouldn't things like tuition/ total cost, financial aid, placement rates, graduation rates, size, rank, etc, be more important? if you're interested in business, look up each school's business program(s), and see how they rank. just learning how to run your own business won't take very much education, in my opinion. as long you're descent with money, have common sense, and take basic level classes, i think you can do it just fine.

UC, Boulder is consistently ranked in the top 30 undergrad business schools...CSU is in 80s and 90s...U of Utah squeaked into the top 50 this year.
Because out of state tuition to Boulder is around $30,000, which is why it is not in the list. Don't worry about colleges not on the list ok. Thanks
 

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
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austin
it was simply a reference point. though, 3 of the schools you listed are in CO. i assumed you were a local CO-ian.
 
May 24, 2002
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Boulder CO
CSU and CU should be almost identical in tution...maybe off-campus housing is more at CU but you can get around that.

But don't listen to me, you really should just pick your school based on better riding and snowboarding....I hear that's what all the smart ones do.
 

Transcend

My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
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gschuette said:
Trail quality near the place you will spend 4 years of your life is a very important issue.
Ya, sure buddy. As important as choosing a good school that will let you excel in yoru program.

You guys need to get your head out of your asses.
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
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NORCAL is the hizzle
If the schools compare well then sure, location is part of the decision.

But you sound like the quality of the school doesn't matter at all, which is just confused. If it doesn't matter, why go at all? Get a job and live it up.

Four years might seem like a long time but it's not much at all.
 

Jeremy R

<b>x</b>
Nov 15, 2001
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I don't know.
It just seems like this guy wants to get a business degree, and he wants to have good trails and mountains nearby. Who are you guys to judge this?
Coming from myself who has a Economics/Finance degree, there is no way in hell I would have went somewhere with no riding. Life is too short not to enjoy yourself. And you can get a good business degree in about a gazillion colleges, so why not have your cake and eat it too.
Hell, 3/4s of the people with college degrees, don't even have a job based on their major.
 

mobius

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
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Around DC
Trail quality is not any near factor of what you should choose in college. I love mountain biking and loveeeeeeeeeeee riding in the mountains but i goto school 20 minutes outside of washington DC. I could have gone to school at virginia tech right in the mountains of western VA but i hated the area and the major i changed into does not even exist there. I at first was real kinda bummed that the only kind of riding in the area was pretty flat XC but riding isn't the first thing on my mind when im at school with my friends. I would definetly look into what school has better academically wise then trails.

I do ride while at school but have found myself into street and DJ riding in the off season and i head to the mountains in summer to ride.


So i'd say the smart thing is not to choose your college solely on riding and check more into campus life, cost, and academics.
 
Jul 17, 2003
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Salt Lake City
If you go to the U, Go-Ride can be your LBS :D

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Ah, just to put in my two cents, I don't think criticizing somebody because good trail access is important to them while deciding where to live for the next four years is very fair. Bottom line, unless you're at a top-tier school, any public school in the intermountain west with a student body of over 15k is going to provide about the same quality of education. CU and Boulder might rank higher than the UofU, but that's over all of their courses combined. The U has one of the best pre-med and pre-law programs available at any public university in the country but doesn't have such stellar "liberal arts" wings such as philosophy or the like.

SUU wouldn't be a bad choice if you can handle 85% of Cedar City being members of the LDS faith, and the resulting social atmosphere.
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
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NORCAL is the hizzle
Yeah maybe some of us sound a little harsh, he didn't ask us about anything other than quality of riding, not quality of schools, life lessons, and certainly not to be judged as a human.

But if you come here for advice, expect a little more than what you asked for. It's just part of the giving nature of the monkey. :dancing: :dancing:
 

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
7,155
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austin
without my glasses on, it looks like a Mega Man character surfing.

when i was looking at schools, cycling wasn't even considered. guess i got lucky going to UT. too bad i hate living in Austin.
 

Kornphlake

Turbo Monkey
Oct 8, 2002
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James | Go-Ride said:
If you go to the U, Go-Ride can be your LBS :D

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Ah, just to put in my two cents, I don't think criticizing somebody because good trail access is important to them while deciding where to live for the next four years is very fair. Bottom line, unless you're at a top-tier school, any public school in the intermountain west with a student body of over 15k is going to provide about the same quality of education. CU and Boulder might rank higher than the UofU, but that's over all of their courses combined. The U has one of the best pre-med and pre-law programs available at any public university in the country but doesn't have such stellar "liberal arts" wings such as philosophy or the like.

SUU wouldn't be a bad choice if you can handle 85% of Cedar City being members of the LDS faith, and the resulting social atmosphere.
Ha, those are true words, go-ride is the best LBS I've ever dealt with even when they were 30 miles of treacherous icy highways away.

There are plenty of schools in utah all of which have stellar riding nearby, with the exception of maybe dixie, but nobody would want to go there anyway unless they went to high school in St. George. Generally the schools are pretty good at stuff too because of the strong LDS infuance. I believe that the state of utah's primary education teachers are something like 50% below the national average salry yet the students score in the top 5% or something to that effect. That said I went to BYU and the mormon culture drove me nuts, and I'm mormon, but yeah, go Cougars!
 

dexter

Turbo Monkey
Sep 23, 2001
3,053
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Boise, Idaho
if your looking for a good education stay the hell away from ft collins aka fort loser. while the riding is sick the school is a joke (FRIENDS WITH 1.25 GPAS GOT IN) utah i have nevef been there to the campus but the whole no booze deal and what not would def scare me away along with all those damn mormans, which i have a few of at school. csu is pretty cool good street and skateparks with a nice bmx track. to get to dh trails you gotta drive to the real mtns anywhere in colorado to keystone, vail, silverton, etc. im serious when i say this but check out the latest outside with the top twenty college towns missoula ranked 6th i think. we have more rhoads scholars (sp?) than any other school in the nation because they love it in montana. the weather is just like co's, the biz school is awesome (im a international biz major with a minor in mrkting & management or in info systems) riding is unbeleivable twenty minutes from campus and you have a 14 mile sweet techy, jump and ladder filled dh course with numerous other spots all over missoula and canada is really close by. the girls are great and the bar and party scene is a blast. its worth checkin out and tuition isnt that bad
 

Gnar

Chimp
May 14, 2004
37
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ATL
mobius said:
Trail quality is not any near factor of what you should choose in college. I love mountain biking and loveeeeeeeeeeee riding in the mountains but i goto school 20 minutes outside of washington DC. I could have gone to school at virginia tech right in the mountains of western VA but i hated the area and the major i changed into does not even exist there. I at first was real kinda bummed that the only kind of riding in the area was pretty flat XC but riding isn't the first thing on my mind when im at school with my friends. I would definetly look into what school has better academically wise then trails.

I do ride while at school but have found myself into street and DJ riding in the off season and i head to the mountains in summer to ride.


So i'd say the smart thing is not to choose your college solely on riding and check more into campus life, cost, and academics.
I have researched the schools and their academics, so you guys can stop the broken record. I want to major in buisness, and that is my choice. I have researched all the school's business programs and would feel happy with any of them. I have also visited all these schools. I have done my research, and was just looking for students inputs. Enough with all the negative vibes! If you have not gone to these then don't write anything and just skip over this thread.
 

COmtbiker12

Turbo Monkey
Dec 17, 2003
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Colorado Springs
dexter said:
if your looking for a good education stay the hell away from ft collins aka fort loser. while the riding is sick the school is a joke (FRIENDS WITH 1.25 GPAS GOT IN) <snip> csu is pretty cool good street and skateparks
That sounds a bit redundant....
 
May 24, 2002
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Boulder CO
Oh my bad Gnar, being 19 and all I forgot what it was like to be 18 and know everything.

You're right, you should go to a place where riding is the priority. As long as it's on your parents dime why worry?

Screw the future, you can't fathom living past 23 anyway huh? Plus if you do you know you'll inevidbly get a crib better than Ice Cube's and your wife will be hottter than the other Hilton sister...so what's the point worrying about the college? They're all basically the same right?
 

Gnar

Chimp
May 14, 2004
37
0
ATL
neversummersnow said:
Oh my bad Gnar, being 19 and all I forgot what it was like to be 18 and know everything.

You're right, you should go to a place where riding is the priority. As long as it's on your parents dime why worry?

Screw the future, you can't fathom living past 23 anyway huh? Plus if you do you know you'll inevidbly get a crib better than Ice Cube's and your wife will be hottter than the other Hilton sister...so what's the point worrying about the college? They're all basically the same right?
I quit. Big thanks to the people that were helpful.
 

Darryl

Monkey
Jan 29, 2002
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ZION
Wow, lots of uncensored good advice here.

F the peeps trying to decide your future for you, there's no way in hell I'd pick a school anywhere that didn't have some of the things I enjoy doing close by. Especially biking. I guess they all went to Yale and are now making millions selling stocks on the net or so. Hell I'm a 27 year old dirty ass bum, but I smile every day of the week.

That said, I haven't attended any of those schools but I have gone to SUU, anything in UT, especially So. Utah will put you close to tons of good riding. Northern Utah has resorts and you're close to some Idaho stuff and fairly close to some stuff near Reno? I wanna say. Also some stuff in Khamas (sp?) I've been hearing about but haven't seen yet. And you're still only about 4 hours from So. Utah and about 7 from Boulder City.

Make sure you get pics when you finally bang Paris Hilton so you can post em for the nevergonnasnow dude.

Oh yeah, and don't forget Brian Head in the summers, SUU is 45 mins, UofU about 3.5 hours.
 

sayndesyn

Turbo Monkey
I went to Fort Lewis in 99-00 and raced xc for them. Great biking program, but academics are so/so. The skiing is awesome in Telluride and pretty good at what used to be Purgatory Resort. I think that is where they hold the Norba National now and call it Durango Mountain Resort. There is lots of places to build big hucks north of Durango off of the main road in the mountain passes. . Top notch area for biking trails and some good Dirt Jumping as well.