Yeah, what I should have said is, the tires that have been released more recently are pretty close to nominal. Those 2.35 and 2.5 26" DHF molds are ancient and fit the old Maxxis sizing scheme of making things tiny.The 26" DHF stuff is all over the place, some still pretty tiny, ie a 2.35 at 52mm, a 2.3 at 58, and a 2.5 at 55, and yet another 2.5 at todays normal of 63.
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Ya, I know, just being difficult.
Not sure why they would still make the really tiny stuff. They have the more recent 26" moulds that are pretty true to size. I'm thinking they no longer have the demand that would preclude them from rotating the moulds. Hot patches are the easy part.
My 27.5 DHRII 2.3 feels tiny, too. And it developed the dreaded casing hop. 
In my experience, the 2.3 versions of Maxxis tires have always been downscaled, at least for 26 and 27".
For size/volume I am liking the DHR2 2.4” and Assguy 2.5”.
The Assguy reminds me of a 2.35 Mary which I feel is spot on. The 2.5” DHF is a bit bloated, and while it’s ok on the front and possibly where trails are more rocky, IMO there is too much casing roll to run it on the rear (pushing hard in corners on hardback).
Back to Aggressor and for some reason I found myself reading some reviews yesterday and it’s all over the shop for this tire. Reports of it rolling slower than a DHR2, but contradicted by others. 2.3 being faster but not having corner bite at larger lean angles......didn’t leave feeling warm and fuzzy all over.
The Assguy reminds me of a 2.35 Mary which I feel is spot on. The 2.5” DHF is a bit bloated, and while it’s ok on the front and possibly where trails are more rocky, IMO there is too much casing roll to run it on the rear (pushing hard in corners on hardback).
Back to Aggressor and for some reason I found myself reading some reviews yesterday and it’s all over the shop for this tire. Reports of it rolling slower than a DHR2, but contradicted by others. 2.3 being faster but not having corner bite at larger lean angles......didn’t leave feeling warm and fuzzy all over.
So what's the monkey brain's stance on the Spesh Eliminator in the BLK DMNDMNDMND casing? They are on sale everywhere and my current rear tire is a true boat anchor so I pulled the trigger. Will I die?
Too thin of sidewalls (exo is better) and quickly loose traction without showing wear. I'd rather run an Aggressor and I hate that tire.
I doubt the Black Diamond casing is thinner than the exo as the tires are 200g heavier than the Grid casing that is comparable to Exo. Also, for the rear tire, I don't care about traction as much. What I care about is that the side knobs don't die after 50 miles like on the Aggressor.
I tried the GRID version of the 2.3 and 2.6. Sidewalls sucked, the new Grid is not the old Grid. The 2.3 side knobs hooked up really well, I wouldn't mind trying a black diamond version at some point. It's noticeably low volume though. The 2.6s were a floaty mess that got pulled off immediately.
Just tried a Dissector 2.4 EXO+ Maxterra on the back with a DHF up front yesterday and came away impressed. Terrain was high speed rocky dual track and wet hardpack in Norcal. Rolling resistance was less than the DHF I'd been running in back and barely gave up anything in cornering. Lower volume was a little noticeable but still more than acceptable. Going to try one on the front as well. One bummer - they came in weighing 50g more than advertised.
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That was my thoughts as well when I ordered it. I may have gotten a bad batch. But switched to an SE4 quickly.
I'd like to try a Dissector in the rear, but will wait for a DD/MaxxTerra.
Wife has a 2.4 EXO+ on her rear wheel, side knobs don't look like they'll last as long as one might hope. @StiHacka surprised you mention the side knobs wearing on the Aggressor's, I don't think we've had an issue with that, I still happily run 2.3's for hundreds of miles before the centre tread wears out, I guess I should go check on the side knobs on my current one.
I was getting a lot more cornering grip with the Dissector than I did with an Aggressor, although I need to try the Dissector in blown out conditions to know for sure. I'm ok with a short lifespan if it means close to DHF cornering grip paired with fast rolling.
MaxxTerra, Exo+, 2.4. I'd normally run a DD rear for pedally bike duty but at least as of when I got the one I tried, they didn't have that on offer.
If anything, I think the DHRII rolls a little worse than the DHF, but it brakes a shitload better.
The DH casing Dissector isn't very heavy at all. I think mine was like 1080g. The DD casing doesn't save a whole lot. I think they're a pretty good tyre, nothing unexpected.
I made a mistake of buying an Exo Dissector once and that was not good.
I shredded my exo+ dhr and dhf tires and was stuck running regular exo dissector/ assegai for a few months. Really really liked that combo, but had high pressures and cushcore in there. Switched in august to the same combo but dh casing out back and DD up front w/ cushcore xc- absolutely deadly for our trails around here. The DHRII was always a bit too slow rolling for me and I find the dissector to be much quicker. The DHF front has always been a killer tire, but the cornering give then bite always scared the shit out of me. The assegai is now my 100% go to front tire for 99% of conditions.
Is the 29" 2.5WT DHF in DD casing as bloated as the 2.5WT EXO version? ETRTO indicates that the DD is narrower.
I've been running the EXO+ and DD versions on the same bike/rims. If they are different widths I've never noticed.
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I am also waiting for this tyre, I'd like something a bit faster rolling than the dhr 2 for the rear of my trail bike. Unfortunately they don't list this tyre at the moment, hopefully it'll come along soon. Hopefully the side knobs stand up to at least some abuse before giving up, they do look like they might not.
I've been riding the exo dissector 2.4 on the front of my light weight xc/trail bike (transition spur) and I am quite enjoying it.
Me too--seems a great option for this purpose IMO.
That's certainly my experience with them
If they made a version with more like a Double Down casing in the ~1100g range it would be amazeballs.
I tried the new MM & BB for a few rides in their "Super Trail" casing, and then sold them because they were heavier than a DD DHR & EXO+ Assegai, and didn't ride any better. Plus the ST doesn't let you get purple for the MM.
It's weird. The ST casing is a bit thinner than SG, and feels a little more supple, but it's barely any lighter. I'm not really sure what the point is.
I measured the 27.5x2.4, soft (orange) BB at 1251g in ST, and 1272g in SG.
...apparently I had a Freudian moment. I actually ordered a pair of DH34's much to my surprise while opening the shipment. My legs must have taken over my brain while placing the order in fear of what would they would have been subjected to if I ordered the 22's. Somehow, I'm guessing these will still be a bear to pedal...
How do these new DH* tires from Michy shed mud. I inadvertently ended up riding through a couple short sections of peanut butter on my last ride and was reminded how poorly the Rock'R2 sheds mud.
Shedding mud is byproduct of tire choice, design, and type of mud. Peanut butter/clay is probably the most challenging mud the shed and the Wild Rock'R2 center tread isn't overly prominent nor terribly open IMO. It really isn't very surprising that it wouldn't work well.How do these new DH* tires from Michy shed mud. I inadvertently ended up riding through a couple short sections of peanut butter on my last ride and was reminded how poorly the Rock'R2 sheds mud.
These DH34's are a different beast altogether. More spacing and more prominent center knobs so they'll certainly be better than the Rorc'R2 in mud. As for peanut butter, that's why spikes exist.
It'll be fun giving them a proper go once the trails clear off.
I'm sure this has been discussed before but what's the consensus on this type of sidewall damage? I do run low-ish tire pressures (~22psi front, ~25psi rear), which I guess could contribute. Not a picture of my specific tire, but had it on DH casing DHR2 and DHF. Safe? Preventable? Luck of the draw?
