[N8 v2.0]

HOUSE HEARING ON 'WARMING OF THE PLANET' CANCELED AFTER ICE STORM
HEARING NOTICE
Tue Feb 13 2007 19:31:25 ET

The Subcommittee on Energy and Air Quality hearing scheduled for Wednesday, February 14, 2007, at 10:00 a.m. in room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building has been postponed due to inclement weather. The hearing is entitled “Climate Change: Are Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Human Activities Contributing to a Warming of the Planet?”

The hearing will be rescheduled to a date and time to be announced later.

DC WEATHER REPORT:

Wednesday: Freezing rain in the morning. Total ice accumulation between one half to three quarters of an inch. Brisk with highs in the mid 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph...increasing to northwest 20 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.

Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy. Lows around 18. Northwest winds around 20 mph.

 

[sanjuro]

good 1!

 

[Old Man G Funk]

N8, you've done it again. You've disproved GW. Congrats. With all this disproving you are doing, how do you have time for anything else?

 

[N8 v2.0]

February was coldest in 28 years
March 05, 2007
Curtis Rush
Staff Reporter

If you thought February was particularly cold, you were right.

Frigid conditions made the month the coldest February in 28 years, according to Environment Canada’s senior climatologist David Phillips.

Not since 1979 has February dished up such bone-rattling conditions.

The average temperature was -8.4C, which was three degreescolder than normal.

That also made it the fifth coldest February since 1937 when weather records were first kept at what is now Pearson International Airport.

It followed an unusually mild January.

The month was also distinguished by a lack of rain.

Usually in Feburary, the temperature rises enough that we get some rain.

However, this was the first February since 1978 and only the second ever when we didn’t get one drop of rain.

"This was winter at its worst," Phillips said.

Today’s weather will be cold, but there is the promise of spring around the corner.

Environment Canada is predicting temperatures will rise to 3C by Friday.

And although we have had snowfalls right through May in some years, the law of averages suggests we may have had our last snowstorm of the season.

In the months of March, April and May, there is only a 21 per cent chance of any snow falling, according to Phillips.

Environment Canada is also calling for normal temperatures through March, April and May.

 

[Old Man G Funk]

Yawn.

Wake me up when you actually have something.

 

[N8 v2.0]

UNITED STATES
Climate Summary
February 2007
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/na.html

The average temperature in February 2007 was 32.9 F. This was -1.8 F cooler than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average, the 34th coolest February in 113 years. The temperature trend for the period of record (1895 to present) is 0.3 degrees Fahrenheit per decade.

1.56 inches of precipitation fell in February. This was -0.46 inches less than the 1901-2000 average, the 16th driest such month on record. The precipitation trend for the period of record (1895 to present) is 0.00 inches per decade.

 

[bac]

N8, you've done it again. You've disproved GW. Congrats. With all this disproving you are doing, how do you have time for anything else?

Global warming is a myth. My president told me so, and he has no vested interest in distorting the truth.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Well, man-made global warming may very well be a myth...

Here is the possible real culprit

 

[jimmydean]

Well, man-made global warming may very well be a myth...

Here is the possible real culprit

You mean it's the SUN what warms the earth? Man, they should teach this stuff in schools!

 

[N8 v2.0]

You mean it's the SUN what warms the earth? Man, they should teach this stuff in schools!

Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun’s activity is the common thread linking all these baking events.

At noon – after 12 billion years – the ever-expanding sun, transformed into a red giant, will engulf the planet, melting away any evidence it ever existed and sending molecules and atoms that once were Earth floating off into space.

'The end of the world' has already begun

 

[jimmydean]

"The disappearance of our planet is still 7.5 billion years away, but people really should consider the fate of our world and have a realistic understanding of where we are going,"

Sounds like I should just buy me new SUV since I have some time to kill.

 

[N8 v2.0]

that's what I did.

 

[jimmydean]

that's what I did.

Now I have to since I aspire to be exactly like you. You're my hero, N8.

 

[spincrazy]

http://www.livescience.com/mysteries/070307_snow_GW.html

to your first nonsense post

You want to use livescience.com. as a reference? I happen to be VERY well connected over there.... Why don't you do a search for "Global Warming" over there and see what you find? NM, here you are douchey mcdouche: http://google.space.com/search?site=livescience&client=livescience&proxystylesheet=livescience&output=xml_no_dtd&q=global+warming&image.x=0&image.y=0

 

[N8 v2.0]

Now I have to since I aspire to be exactly like you. You're my hero, N8.

i know. isnt the first time this has happend.

 

[N8 v2.0]

everyone know the earth is gonna ice over...

i saw algore's documentry The Day After Tomorrow

 

[SilentJ]

http://www.livescience.com/mysteries/070307_snow_GW.html

to your first nonsense post

You want to use livescience.com. as a reference? I happen to be VERY well connected over there.... Why don't you do a search for "Global Warming" over there and see what you find? NM, here you are douchey mcdouche: http://google.space.com/search?site=livescience&client=livescience&proxystylesheet=livescience&output=xml_no_dtd&q=global+warming&image.x=0&image.y=0

I actually LOL'd at the bolded part...wtf does that have to do with anything?

Not trying to get into an argument here because I suck at debate, but the fact that everyone gets riled at n-eight for posting these threads is goddamn hilarious.

The fact that people pass global warming off as fact is equally hilarious. Not saying it isn't real and that it isn't a good theory, but it's still just that. A theory. No different than evolution. (holy can of worms) So global temps have risen 1-ish degree in 100 years. Great. How much of that one degree is due to humans? (I'm truly asking. Can anyone answer?)

Didn't the NYTimes just run some article about Gore overembellishing a bunch on An Inconvenient Truth?

 

[N8 v2.0]

... .. ....

well, well, well.... so that's what a spincrazy post looks like....

... been a couple years since i've gotten to read one.

 

[Old Man G Funk]

The fact that people pass global warming off as fact is equally hilarious. Not saying it isn't real and that it isn't a good theory, but it's still just that. A theory. No different than evolution. (holy can of worms) So global temps have risen 1-ish degree in 100 years. Great. How much of that one degree is due to humans? (I'm truly asking. Can anyone answer?)

Didn't the NYTimes just run some article about Gore overembellishing a bunch on An Inconvenient Truth?[/COLOR]

First, it's pretty close to established that global warming is real and that humans are contributing.

Second, what do you think a theory is? A theory, in scientific terms, is something that has many lines of supporting evidence. In science, a theory is actually quite well supported, and not simpy a guess as the word is used in vernacular terms. Evolution fits this bill in that there are many facts that support evolution, yet there are some gaps in our knowledge. To overturn evolution, however, would be an immense undertaking in that it is so well developed and supported that it is about as close to fact as science gets. GW may not be as well supported, but is certainly very well supported.

Third, humans have contributed significantly to the rise in temperatures according to many studies. There are a few oil industry sponsored studies that disagree, but those have some pretty obvious problems, like the fact that the oil industry has a vested interest in denying GW. It's true that some of the rise may be due to natural cyclic temperature variations, but it's pretty conclusive to our best knowledge that humans are having an affect on the climate and are most likely the basis for most of the warming we see. I don't think anyone can put a specific number on it, but that's not so weird in a system that has as many variables as climate.

Fourth, Gore's movie is actually pretty good. It's been reviewed by many climatologists and they usually have a small quibble here or there, but most say that it's pretty accurate. It's actually a pretty good movie, and I suggest you at least give it a shot.

You can also find a lot of resources on climate at www.realclimate.org, which is a site run by climatologists. I'd also look up the work by James Hansen at NASA.

 

[SilentJ]

First, it's pretty close to established that global warming is real and that humans are contributing.

Uhh...I never said it wasn't.

Second, what do you think a theory is? ....GW may not be as well supported, but is certainly very well supported.

It's just that it's touted as fact is what bugs me. Saying "humans are the cause of GW" is very different to me than saying "studies show that humans are probably the cause of GW. Here is what we know:...".

It's true that some of the rise may be due to natural cyclic temperature variations, but it's pretty conclusive to our best knowledge that humans are having an affect on the climate and are most likely the basis for most of the warming we see.

Ugh...still bugs me that we don't know where we should be...someone who believes in teh jeebus needs to die, find out and come and tell us whats going down.

Either way - anything I say is null and void as my paycheck comes from companies like Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Pioneer, etc...I probably singlehandedly contribute more than the rest of RM combined.

 

[Changleen]

It's just that it's touted as fact is what bugs me. Saying "humans are the cause of GW" is very different to me than saying "studies show that humans are probably the cause of GW. Here is what we know:...".

Given that we live in a soundbite society where a good percentage of people are dumb as all crap and have no desire or inclination to learn about this, and given that as science is basically sure human behaviour is a large part of the problem, a public message:

"Humans are the cause of Global Warming, and we need to do something about it, like now."

Is actually a pretty good message for the general population. Let's face it the public isn't great at detail. You start saying 'studies tend to show that there is a correlation..." you've already lost 50% of the audience. This is an important issue, and there needs to be clear messaging around it.

 

[Old Man G Funk]

Uhh...I never said it wasn't.

Good.

It's just that it's touted as fact is what bugs me. Saying "humans are the cause of GW" is very different to me than saying "studies show that humans are probably the cause of GW. Here is what we know:...".

There are facts behind it, and it is a fact that the Earth is warming. We're just about close enough to call it fact that humans are contributing (as close as science can get).

Ugh...still bugs me that we don't know where we should be...someone who believes in teh jeebus needs to die, find out and come and tell us whats going down.

Huh?

Either way - anything I say is null and void as my paycheck comes from companies like Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Pioneer, etc...I probably singlehandedly contribute more than the rest of RM combined.

Well, go back and tell all your co-workers to stop being evil.irate2:

 

[SilentJ]

Ugh...still bugs me that we don't know how much of global warming is from humans.

Huh?

better? I thought that there was evidence somewhere to show 2+ degree swings per century?

Well, go back and tell all your co-workers to stop being evil.irate2:

I recommended purchase of a dehy package that ran with fully solar instruments the other day...it got rejected, but it still counts, right?

Seriously, though...I dont really care. I'm an engimineer, I'll question you if you tell me the effin sky is blue.

 

[Old Man G Funk]

better? I thought that there was evidence somewhere to show 2+ degree swings per century?

Not that I know of. If you can dig that up, that would be interesting.

I recommended purchase of a dehy package that ran with fully solar instruments the other day...it got rejected, but it still counts, right?

Yeah, it counts. Good on you.

Seriously, though...I dont really care. I'm an engimineer, I'll question you if you tell me the effin sky is blue.

That's because scattering is inversely proportional to the fourth power of the wavelength of the light that is traveling through air particles.

 

[SilentJ]

Given that we live in a soundbite society where a good percentage of people are dumb as all crap and have no desire or inclination to learn about this, and given that as science is basically sure human behaviour is a large part of the problem, a public message:

"Humans are the cause of Global Warming, and we need to do something about it, like now."

Is actually a pretty good message for the general population. Let's face it the public isn't great at detail. You start saying 'studies tend to show that there is a correlation..." you've already lost 50% of the audience. This is an important issue, and there needs to be clear messaging around it.

I was more referring to what is taught in educational institutions. I was taught it as fact in 03 by way of blanket statements and vigorous hand waving. I think the prof made more skeptics than he did believers by taking this approach.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Charlotte, NC breaks 1923 record, sees coldest April day in history.

http://charlotte.com/115/story/78479.html