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conservatives are now for pot

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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"behind every good man theres a woman....and that woman was martha washington man...and every day george would come home she'd have a big fat bowl waiting for him man when he'd come to the door....she was a hip, hip, hip lady..."
 

dump

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Oct 12, 2001
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Wtf?

I've said it before, "How's that war on drugs going?"

These mfers.
 

dante

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I think i've finally figured out the one thing that holds true for republicans:

"they were against it before they were for it"
The reverse ("they were for it before they were against it") also holds true, as evidenced by the vitriol about the new health care plan, which is just a rehash of the 1993 Republican plan...






Heading to P&WN in 5...4...3...
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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HOLY SH!T?! They Beck and then Palin said something logical! WTF is happening... Dogs and cats living together, MASS HYSTARIA!!!
i think their desire for capitalizing on this potential goldmine of tax money is greater than their hatred for drugs.


even though Beck used to be a HUGE stoner.
 

Mr Jones

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Nov 12, 2007
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Didn't Mexico's president just announce that he wants to legalize drugs to take power away from the cartels?
 

sanjuro

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Sep 13, 2004
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their ex-president said that on his blog. the current president said he would listen to arguments, but said he still opposed the idea
Since we moved this to PAWN, I did want to suggest if Mexico wants to win the war on the drugs, they should attack the US.

We are the cause of their problems.
 

IH8Rice

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Aug 2, 2008
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Im over here now
Since we moved this to PAWN, I did want to suggest if Mexico wants to win the war on the drugs, they should attack the US.

We are the cause of their problems.
the cartels would do everything they can to stop that. we are their #1 customer when it comes to their sh!tty weed and any other drug they have.


they've already got a couple million of their people here too
thats how it starts
 

valve bouncer

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Feb 11, 2002
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The Mexicans would be a lot better off if they could stem the flow of weapons from their northern neighbour. They should build a fence.
 

Pesqueeb

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Feb 2, 2007
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Riding past the morgue.
At this point, I don't know if I would want it to be legalized. Prices of weed will skyrocket and the weed will be worse. The illegal market will still thrive.
I'd actually be willing to bet the exact opposite will happen. Drugs are expensive because of the risk that is involved in transporting/manufacturing/selling. If a guy is gonna risk time/death the reward has to be equivalent. Make it legal and you eliminate a lot of that.
 

jonKranked

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At this point, I don't know if I would want it to be legalized. Prices of weed will skyrocket and the weed will be worse. The illegal market will still thrive.
as long as big companies like phillip morris and the other tobacco companies don't legislate small growers out of business, things should be ok. They wouldn't really be able to capitalize on it (weed) as much because its tricky to mass grow; there's much more variation from strain to strain and from generation to generation within a particular strain than there is with tobacco (some of the reasons its easier to mass produce).

And like squeeb said, if its legalized, the risk associated with selling will be substantially reduced. Would also help to keep prices more stable throughout the year.
 

rockofullr

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Jun 11, 2009
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At this point, I don't know if I would want it to be legalized. Prices of weed will skyrocket and the weed will be worse. The illegal market will still thrive.
Come on man don't be one of these stoners who is gonna try to screw it all up and vote no in November.

Is it really gonna cost you more when you can grow some plants in your own yard?

Do you think the guy you get it from now will stop selling? (or jack up his prices)

Do you like being paranoid any time you drive somewhere and take your sack with you?

Think about it.
 

dante

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Feb 13, 2004
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as long as big companies like phillip morris and the other tobacco companies don't legislate small growers out of business, things should be ok. They wouldn't really be able to capitalize on it (weed) as much because its tricky to mass grow; there's much more variation from strain to strain and from generation to generation within a particular strain than there is with tobacco (some of the reasons its easier to mass produce).

And like squeeb said, if its legalized, the risk associated with selling will be substantially reduced. Would also help to keep prices more stable throughout the year.
Yup. I'd foresee the big agriculture companies like Monsanto, etc would make strides in the next 5 years that would put the last 40 years of hard working hippies to shame. In turn they'd sell that to Phillip Morris who would churn out dependable, boring product on a massive scale. Assuming they weren't legislated out of business, current growers might stay on as small-time "craft growers", with more care and better product, but a tiny minority of the overall market.

Pretty much exactly where the beer industry is now.
 

jonKranked

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Yup. I'd foresee the big agriculture companies like Monsanto, etc would make strides in the next 5 years that would put the last 40 years of hard working hippies to shame. In turn they'd sell that to Phillip Morris who would churn out dependable, boring product on a massive scale. Assuming they weren't legislated out of business, current growers might stay on as small-time "craft growers", with more care and better product, but a tiny minority of the overall market.

Pretty much exactly where the beer industry is now.
Ya know, I've always wondered if companies like Monsanto have already tried large scale cultivation. I'm sure if they had, and were successful at it, weed would have been legalized a LONG time ago. :tinfoil:
 

nauc

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May 14, 2007
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I think i've finally figured out the one thing that holds true for republicans:

"they were against it before they were for it"
well, when you can make money being against it, then you can make money supporting it....

;)
 

dante

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Ya know, I've always wondered if companies like Monsanto have already tried large scale cultivation. I'm sure if they had, and were successful at it, weed would have been legalized a LONG time ago. :tinfoil:
Why bother, when they can genetically engineer the crops that we're already eating/smoking and not have to cough up any money for lobbying? (although that might explain the sudden change of heart that conservatives are having)

No, I'd bet that they might be currently working on genetically engineered crops so that if/when the legalization process comes down they'll be ahead of everyone else, but direct open lobbying would be too much of a risk to their share price.

(and I can just imagine it, 2 hours after the president signs the law legalizing marijuana, Monsanto comes out with a statement that they've produced a genetically engineered crop that is not only 100x more powerful than it is now, but also that they figured out how to make it chemically addicting......)
 

jonKranked

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Why bother, when they can genetically engineer the crops that we're already eating/smoking and not have to cough up any money for lobbying? (although that might explain the sudden change of heart that conservatives are having)

No, I'd bet that they might be currently working on genetically engineered crops so that if/when the legalization process comes down they'll be ahead of everyone else, but direct open lobbying would be too much of a risk to their share price.

(and I can just imagine it, 2 hours after the president signs the law legalizing marijuana, Monsanto comes out with a statement that they've produced a genetically engineered crop that is not only 100x more powerful than it is now, but also that they figured out how to make it chemically addicting......)

given the kind of person that does smoke weed, I think this alone is a reason that companies like Philip Morris would have a difficult time in the market. Those damn hippies don't want any extra chemicals in their drugs.
 

Silver

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Yup. I'd foresee the big agriculture companies like Monsanto, etc would make strides in the next 5 years that would put the last 40 years of hard working hippies to shame. In turn they'd sell that to Phillip Morris who would churn out dependable, boring product on a massive scale. Assuming they weren't legislated out of business, current growers might stay on as small-time "craft growers", with more care and better product, but a tiny minority of the overall market.

Pretty much exactly where the beer industry is now.
I agree, except it would be starting from the opposite point. The craft beer industry wasn't even around 30 years ago. It was a toddling infant at that time with Fritz Maytag just learning how to walk.

Most of the people who smoke already do, so I would expect them to have had a taste of the good stuff. It would be an interesting case study, that's for sure.
 

dan-o

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Jun 30, 2004
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Any attempt by Big Business to control the market would be childs play in comparison to the War on Drugs. Despite the gov'ts best efforts, the quality and quantity of all drugs have steadily improved and I'd be amazed if legalizing it reduced quantity or increased cost. By that logic the organic/local food movements would've been squashed (ha) by Monsanto and Co long before whole foods became the cash cow it has.

There's also no benefit is limiting options on an open market. If you want to sell to a broad market you need good-better-best pricepoints. Any dickhead with a fresh MBA can figure that out whether he burns or not.
 

jimmydean

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Sep 10, 2001
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There's also no benefit is limiting options on an open market. If you want to sell to a broad market you need good-better-best pricepoints. Any dickhead with a fresh MBA can figure that out whether he burns or not.
Not unlike beer/cigarettes. Bud Light Lime, or Black Butte Porter?