Jeezus. If that calculator is anywhere near accurate, we would make out like bandits under either plan.If that's accurate, I'd do quite well under both plans. Hmmm ....
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Jeezus. If that calculator is anywhere near accurate, we would make out like bandits under either plan.If that's accurate, I'd do quite well under both plans. Hmmm ....
Jeezus. If that calculator is anywhere near accurate, we would make out like bandits under either plan.![]()
Same. We'd be saving somewhere between $2,900 and $4,300.Jeezus. If that calculator is anywhere near accurate, we would make out like bandits under either plan.![]()
I am assuming y'all aren't itemizing or smoke cigars at the monocle club with Toshi?Same. We'd be saving somewhere between $2,900 and $4,300.
Negative on both counts. We're DINKS.I am assuming y'all aren't itemizing or smoke cigars at the monocle club with Toshi?
@therealchickenlittleSo I saw this tweet, but haven't seen any background to it?
Can anyone fill in some details for me?
https://twitter.com/yonatanzunger/status/937922848235991041
@therealchickenlittle
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/us/politics/trump-travel-ban-supreme-court.htmlwhile the tone may be a little hysterical, are the facts or the general optics all that inaccurate?
Because a truly subservient nation is built upon a foundation of a unhealthy, ignorant populace.- Why is it so wrong to fund education and health care?
Thing is fixing things take way more time money and effort than the fucking it in the first place, Y'all got a lot of work ahead of you.....The dismantling of Obama’s legacy shows that it can be done to Trumps as well.
He talks about doing all kinds of crazy things but gets very little done.
IMO this country’s bigger than one president. If it’s not then we’re fucked either way.
True.Thing is fixing things take way more time money and effort than the fucking it in the first place, Y'all got a lot of work ahead of you.....
Agreed. Trump and his goons have exposed what was bubbling under the surface. If you get rid of him, other unpleasant alternatives present, notably the execrable Pence. Trump and his goons have and will continue to do major demonstrable damage; the rate has risen, but the movement was present under the surface prior to his emergence.True.
But spending every waking moment is a state of outrage doesn’t change that.
The real issues in this country have nothing to do with trumps short time in office so pretending that his ouster will be a watershed change is misguided, imo.
I sincerely hope that you are wrong.Thing is fixing things take way more time money and effort than the fucking it in the first place, Y'all got a lot of work ahead of you.....
We all know he is right.I sincerely hope that you are wrong.
But deep down I fear that you are right.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/politics/mike-pence-russia-flynn-mueller/index.htmlIf you get rid of him, other unpleasant alternatives present, notably the execrable Pence.
This.These 4 years will give Drumpf's most ardent supporters some respite from the global (and domestic) shifts they loathe, but the next President will be stuck playing catch-up in a world that has left the USA behind. You can't insult your allies and refuse to participate if it's not on your terms and expect everyone to wait around idle.
the problem is that as far as the rest of the world is concerned, America is no longer a serious country. The world will move on without the US, it's already happening. Best case scenario, we're becoming the new Great Britain, but without healthcare or a social safety net.He talks about doing all kinds of crazy things but gets very little done.
IMO this country’s bigger than one president. If it’s not then we’re fucked either way.
But some of these things cannot so easily be undone. Just off the top of my head, judicial appointments. Judges are for life, and some of these clowns being appointed by Trump are very questionable. And the Census. People forget just the sort of effects a Census that's held only once every ten years can have. The LONG term ramifications of that are very real.The dismantling of Obama’s legacy shows that it can be done to Drumpfs as well.
i'm just hoping cheeto gets the boot before he can stack the supreme court with any more human trash cansThis.
While Dan-o is correct when he says:
the problem is that as far as the rest of the world is concerned, America is no longer a serious country. The world will move on without the US, it's already happening. Best case scenario, we're becoming the new Great Britain, but without healthcare or a social safety net.
But some of these things cannot so easily be undone. Just off the top of my head, judicial appointments. Judges are for life, and some of these clowns being appointed by Trump are very questionable. And the Census. People forget just the sort of effects a Census that's held only once every ten years can have. The LONG term ramifications of that are very real.
It's government, not a yo-yo.
There is no way Pence is clean. I'm slowly coming around to the possibility that the end game of the Russia Probe my actually be scarier than the Trump Administration itself. The entire cabinet is dirty and/or complicit. Maybe all the way through high levels of the GOP. I don't know what it means if you have the highest levels of one half of a major political party involved in a crime of this level. Uncharted territory for sure.Agreed. Trump and his goons have exposed what was bubbling under the surface. If you get rid of him, other unpleasant alternatives present, notably the execrable Pence. Trump and his goons have and will continue to do major demonstrable damage; the rate has risen, but the movement was present under the surface prior to his emergence.
gonna need a lot of popcornThere is no way Pence is clean. I'm slowly coming around to the possibility that the end game of the Russia Probe my actually be scarier than the Trump Administration itself. The entire cabinet is dirty and/or complicit. Maybe all the way through high levels of the GOP. I don't know what it means if you have the highest levels of one half of a major political party involved in a crime of this level. Uncharted territory for sure.
based on the succession list:There is no way Pence is clean. I'm slowly coming around to the possibility that the end game of the Russia Probe my actually be scarier than the Trump Administration itself. The entire cabinet is dirty and/or complicit. Maybe all the way through high levels of the GOP. I don't know what it means if you have the highest levels of one half of a major political party involved in a crime of this level. Uncharted territory for sure.
who do you think ISN'T potentially implicated?In Trump's administration, here's the full line of succession.
- Vice President Mike Pence
- Speaker of the House Paul Ryan
- Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch
- Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
- Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin
- Secretary of Defense James Mattis
- Attorney General Jeff Sessions
- Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke
- Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue
- Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross
- Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta
- Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price
- Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson
- Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao
- Secretary of Energy Rick Perry
- Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos
- Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin
- Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly
The SC appointments are really the only thing that keeps me up at night, but that would apply to any activist judges not just conservatives.This.
While Dan-o is correct when he says:
the problem is that as far as the rest of the world is concerned, America is no longer a serious country. The world will move on without the US, it's already happening. Best case scenario, we're becoming the new Great Britain, but without healthcare or a social safety net.
But some of these things cannot so easily be undone. Just off the top of my head, judicial appointments. Judges are for life, and some of these clowns being appointed by Trump are very questionable. And the Census. People forget just the sort of effects a Census that's held only once every ten years can have. The LONG term ramifications of that are very real.
It's government, not a yo-yo.
This has been my thought all along.I'm slowly coming around to the possibility that the end game of the Russia Probe my actually be scarier than the Trump Administration itself.
it's been brewing for a while, i just think darth cheeto put it on the fast trackThis has been my thought all along.
It’s our Brexit.
I don't know. I've read several articles about Russian money taken in by the GOP and republican candidates. Remember Paul Ryan wanting to "keep it in the family" when the talk about how Trump and Rohrbacher (or how ever the fuck you spell it) were Russian stooges came out? Foreign money is supposed to be illegal, though in practice that seems to not be the case.based on the succession list:
who do you think ISN'T potentially implicated?
Oh, I think it would be worse. Nobody in England thinks the Queen is a Russian plant. If she is, that's some serious long game.This has been my thought all along.
It’s our Brexit.
So I saw this tweet, but haven't seen any background to it?
Can anyone fill in some details for me?
https://twitter.com/yonatanzunger/status/937922848235991041
Wasn't equivocating the deeds, just the 'oh shit' realization of what's next.Oh, I think it would be worse. Nobody in England thinks the Queen is a Russian plant. If she is, that's some serious long game.
Oh, I think it would be worse. Nobody in England thinks the Queen is a Russian plant. If she is, that's some serious long game.
Old Job?What do you think the KGB's code name for Donny Two Scoops is?
The man with the golden shower?
Agent Orange?
"Fucking Moron"What do you think the KGB's code name for Donny Two Scoops is?
The man with the golden shower?
Agent Orange?