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coolest chain giude eva

zedro

Turbo Monkey
Sep 14, 2001
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black noise said:
Evils are $130. IMO, the coolest guide is the Gamut. (www.gamutusa.com) Just plain aluminum (except for their cool new plastic one), and half the weight of an MRP.
what the hell, another chainguide maker that doesnt actually show an assembled or mounted product. Anyone know what a decent website is supposed to look like?
 

DHS

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Apr 23, 2002
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black noise said:
Evils are $130. IMO, the coolest guide is the Gamut. (www.gamutusa.com) Just plain aluminum (except for their cool new plastic one), and half the weight of an MRP.
no gotta disagree there, the rollers and the upper guide are in a fixed position. yea that'll fit and work with EVERYTHING....
 

Bulldog

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Sep 11, 2001
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black noise said:
Evils are $130.
Not the comparable carbon F1 guide - that was much much more. BTW I don't think it's available anymore and don't know if they ever actually sold any.
 

dw

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Sep 10, 2001
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The SRS formula MSRP was $250, and used a totally custom all pre-preg carbon composite back plate and special thinner bashguard. We sold quite a few, and they were very successful in 4X racing, Thomas Allier and a couple other riders raced them for 2004. In the end, we decided that the thinner bashguard just wasn't up to our standards for DH use. For 2006 you can bet we have some new tricks.

I get a kick out of people calling a .125 inch thick piece of aluminum a "bashguard". Seems more like a liability to fold into your chainring with any impact. The new crop of polycarbonate bashrings out there are pretty comical also. It takes a lot more than just buying some lexan from your local plastic supplier and then blindly attacking it with a mill to make a usable product. Time will tell all though!

Dave
 

dw

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spookydave said:
I agree!! It's much more fun to blindly attack the real deal. :D


hahhaha nice Dave! I want a lathe of my own so bad. I have a spot picked out for it and everything...
 

MrPrime

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Jan 5, 2005
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How well would a carbon chain gaurd work? I mean, if you smoke it hard enough wont it shatter?

I'll stick with my plastic ones thanks muchly, i'm not that much of a weight weenie :P

P.S. They do look pimp tho :D
 

Bulldog

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Sep 11, 2001
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MrPrime said:
How well would a carbon chain gaurd work? I mean, if you smoke it hard enough wont it shatter?
The problem is the fact that the wording is abused and mis-used all the time. There are chainguides and bashguards. Two separate pieces most of the time. Some chainguides have no plates at all. Some plates are simply for guiding the chain, not protecting the whole system. Some companies, live Evil/E13 combine a chainguide with a bashguard into one integral system, while most others do not. So, watch your wording and make dw happy! ;)

I'm customizing my own Evil guide (not E13 guide). I've got a super thin 3mm aluminum "bashguard" (;) that was for dw) with the original O.G. Evil tophat guide, with some liberal machining of the boomerang. Will be damn light, though surely not as tough. I don't hit rocks and logs at 30mph.
 

zedro

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Sep 14, 2001
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spookydave said:
I agree!! It's much more fun to blindly attack the real deal. :D

i took mine, mounted it on my FSA spider and mounted that on the spindle of my bench grinder. Wind it up to a couple thousand RPM, stick a file in there and let the plastic fly!
 

me89

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May 25, 2004
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Some plates are simply for guiding the chain, not protecting the whole system
yes this is very true. but protecting or not it is inevitable that you are going to nail something with the system whether it be a stray log that wasnt there before or some randomly placed rock that you didnt ever see. personally i would like to know that my guide or bashguard is going to withstand the accidental along with the intentanal. so my rule of thumb is stay away from carbon fiber on a dh bike. i know alot of people are going to disagree im just stating an opinion.

and bulldog thanks for clearing that up for us.
 

prophet6

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Mar 25, 2002
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I was under the impression that polycarbonates like being machined as slower speeds... otherwise, I'd think there'd be melting issues from heat build up...

dw, zedro? comments?


p6
 

DHS

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Apr 23, 2002
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well from what i remember the Evil isn't a poly its a moly.




thats right its a lady, not a bird......




sorry
 

zedro

Turbo Monkey
Sep 14, 2001
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prophet6 said:
I was under the impression that polycarbonates like being machined as slower speeds... otherwise, I'd think there'd be melting issues from heat build up...

dw, zedro? comments?


p6
thats what i'm guessing, unfortunatly my grinder doent have any speed control. It was harder to cut down than my 1/8" aluminum plates
 

spookydave

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Sep 6, 2001
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prophet6 said:
I was under the impression that polycarbonates like being machined as slower speeds... otherwise, I'd think there'd be melting issues from heat build up...

dw, zedro? comments?


p6
I turned that bashguard in the lathe fairly slow compared to 6061. But I'd think if you were really getting after it in a production mode you would turn up the wick a bit and use flood coolent.
Am I thinkin right DW?
 

dw

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Sep 10, 2001
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We use a proprietary process during manufacturing, I cant really talk about it, but I can tell you that it involves high priced custom tooling. Its pretty trick actually!

Dave
 

RD

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Jul 31, 2003
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prophet6 said:
I was under the impression that polycarbonates like being machined as slower speeds... otherwise, I'd think there'd be melting issues from heat build up...

dw, zedro? comments?


p6

Holy ****, Tim Calvin lives! How the hell are ya? :)
 

renegade999

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Jan 6, 2005
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I'm going to disagree with this one.

The coolest chainguide ever would have to be - E13 SRS with Custom Red Supercharger milled to 3/4 thickness, with the rare 104/4 bolt FSA spider and 38 tooth E13 ring. A nearly unbreakable setup guaranteed to turn heads in the pits and win races across the nation. I would trust carbon chain retention devices as much as I'd trust my girlfriend with the newly single and available Brad Pitt.