[rarroyo]

Hello I am looking for the low down on how to setup my Corsair Crown, I know its super adjustable but do not know where to start.

A few things...
Running one shock setup.

9.5X3.0 I believe at the 180mm setting but unclear.

Would like to run a one shock setup at 200mm or 203mm is this possible and what size shock do I need, or what holes do I use.

Thanks,
Rafael

BTW sent various emails to corsair tech...and still no response.

 

[w00dy]

Contact the shock manufacturer too.

 

[Speedgoat9]

I have a crown, but am currently running the 2 shock setup. To get 200mm of travel with one shock you will need a 10.5x3.5 shock. It will bolt to the same place on the swingarm, but you will need to use the holes further up in the seat mast to bolt to the frame. They should be directly in line with the mount holes you are using now. I hope that makes sense as im in the middle of pulling an all nighter studying and am quite delerious.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62409468@N06/5679566944
edit: 10.5x3.5 mount hole circled in pic

 

[Sandwich]

Hey speedgoat...how are you liking your crown? I've always liked that frame and its two-shock design. How does it work for you? How do you like the headset assembly? Any idea if its compatible with an angleset?

 

[Speedgoat9]

hey man, so far i'm loving it. As stated before I don't have much time on it (15 runs?) since tearing my ACL. This bike is very confidence inspiring for me. I'm coming off a V-10 (version 1 mind you) and the way the crown eats square edged hits blows me away. So far I have only ran it on natural trails (rocky as sh*t) (see my helmet cam thread to get an idea) so I can't comment on berms and jumps just yet. I can't feel the trasition when the 2nd shock activates (ran both rocco coil and vivid air), wich I know concerns some people, but i know the 2nd shock has saved my ass more than once.

I havn't messed with the headset yet, just the small adjustments on the shock mounts, I'd guess I'm a hair under 65* wich so far has been working fine for me. The stock corsair headset seems pretty burly so I don't think you'd need an angleset, as they should be pretty much the same thing. I think the adjuster cups run about $100 or so for the set from corsair, so it would be cheaper to run that than buy an angleset. I'll be at platty for the GRT, and for that matter racing in the NE all season so just hunt me down and you can check it out.

I'm really bummed Pablo left corsair. After riding this bike I would have loved to see how he evolved it, as I am already addicted. Plus he is an awesome dude, talked to me for 2 hrs on the phone about the bike and just riding in general. I'll deff be looking for his designs to resurface.

 

[Sandwich]

Yeah...if nothing else, Pablo had some INTERESTING designs... But I've had great customer service from atom lab in the past, so that's really encouraging for the brand. It seems like that was lacking from their initial showing, with pulleys and bearings and etc getting screwed up.

If you don't mind, I'd love to take a run or two on your bike. I've always wanted to experiment with "axle areas" instead of paths, so I always thought it would be fun to put needle bearings on the lower shock eyelet, then use the blowoff shock in more of an "active duty" role. Then you'd have rearward travel at your disposal anytime you hit a significant square bump.

I'll be keeping my eye out for a used crown in the meantime.

 

[Speedgoat9]

No doubt man. I know they "say"the 2nd shock is a blowoff shock, butí've been running mine with 250 psi and have been getting well into its the travel before bottoming my vivid air (in fact i havnt bottomed the VA yet), so i'm definately in that axel area you speak of and lovin it.

As for customer service, i can't speak about it now that pablo has left, but from when i have heard and seen through their facebook page it has only gotten better as new bearings, pivots, and pulleys for the failing maelstroms and marquees have been shipping.

But yeah man find me at the platty GRT, i'll be there friday through sun.

 

[Sandwich]

way cool. I think I'm taking friday off, so I'll probably be around the same time. I might try and build a trail on friday if I'm allowed to, but saturday will be freeride and sunday will be watching.

Any comments on how it pedals or brakes with the "axle area" setup? That's one of the things I'm most curious about. I imagine the lower shock locks out, to a degree, under pedaling, but I have no idea what would happen under braking.

 

[Speedgoat9]

As far as peddling, the idler def does it's job. It pedals infinately better than my old v-10 (although partly because it is 10 lbs lighter). The 2nd shock never activats under my peddling forces. Right now the way I have it set up I'd say the 2nd shock kicks in 2/3's through the 1st shocks stroke. So yeah no effect on peddling there.

As far as braking, I havn't noticed any negative traits. However, the trails I have been riding don't really require heavy braking to set up turns, more just constant light braking to keep in control. So the verdict is still out on that. The one area I havn't been able to test it is where I think you will notice the 2nd shock the most (longer wheelbase) and that is in high speed berms. With low compression I figure the wheelbase will be longer for a more extended period of time so it might change the feel a little. But it couldn't be any more drastic than a jedi so I don't think it will be a problem.

 

[Sandwich]

Yeah, I imagine you would set up the short shock with fairly firm low speed compression, but tune the high speed to the riders liking. I imagine rebound would be rather slow compared to a normal shock, to reduce the sensation of rapid changes in wheelbase. I imagine the grand total of rearward travel due to the small shock is not that much.

What adjustments do you have on the little guy? Hi/lo speed compression, rebound?

 

[Speedgoat9]

The 2nd shock is you're bottom of the line x-fusion, rebound only. It really is tiny, 127mm e2e, 25mm stroke; i don't even know if anyone makes one that small with other adjustments. Either way it does it's job, i just run decent rebound and forget about it.

 

[Sandwich]

Hey man, any update on the ride? I'm still thinking about getting one...there are some really good deals out there if you look right...

How is the normal rear shock performance? Simple and easy to tune?

 

[PsyCro]

I have a Crown coming in a week or so, so i'm also now looking for some feedback on shock setup. Does anyone know what the optimum sag is on this frame. I'll be using a 10.5"x3.5" 2:1 tuned Roco from a Maelstrom.

I'm curious if when using the blow-off shock, will i be better off using a 250lbs spring and getting something under 30% sag, probably 27-28%?? Or maybe better to get a <200lbs spring to get over 30% (probably 32-33%)?
Basically i'm not sure whats best for blow-off shock interaction. (i'm 165 geared up btw..)