CoVID-19
Been informed that two of my employees that are in Thailand are not allowed to return to work. I am sure they are devastated 
@eric strt6 so we gonna get an update from your meeting last night?
the email was last night. The call has not happened yet. when it does I will post the info
So, how is the impeding recession/depression going to be called?
Funny, not funny.......
Stupid Time Zones....... Thanks Eric, cause you know I get all my info from the intrawebs.
All the dry rice and beans are selling out on amazon, lol.
I, for one, have a fairish stock of broad spectrum antibiotics that are going to be worth absolute gold.
I, for one, have a fairish stock of broad spectrum antibiotics that are going to be worth absolute gold.
Antibiotics don't do anything but fuck you up if you're dealing with virii...
If the virus isn't that bad, it's the secondary infections that kill you.
North Korea might be on to something here.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/13/north-korean-official-reportedly-executed-for-breaking-coronavirus-quarantine/
On Feb. 13, the New York Post reported a suspected one case of Coronavirus located in the military country of North Korea. A North Korean official -- that was not identified -- came from the COVID-19 outbreak center China and went back to the country wherein he was quarantined before officially returning to North Korea.
Reports said that the official insisted on going to a public bathroom even while he was under quarantine. After this, the quarantined official was reportedly shot dead after risking the spread of the viral disease in the country.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/13/north-korean-official-reportedly-executed-for-breaking-coronavirus-quarantine/
On Feb. 13, the New York Post reported a suspected one case of Coronavirus located in the military country of North Korea. A North Korean official -- that was not identified -- came from the COVID-19 outbreak center China and went back to the country wherein he was quarantined before officially returning to North Korea.
Reports said that the official insisted on going to a public bathroom even while he was under quarantine. After this, the quarantined official was reportedly shot dead after risking the spread of the viral disease in the country.
from reddit (link below), synopsis of WHO early investigation:
The WHO sent 25 international experts to China and here are their main findings after 9 days
The WHO has sent a team of international experts to China to investigate the situation, including Clifford Lane, Clinical Director at the US National Institutes of Health. Here is the press conference on Youtube and the final report of the commission as PDF after they visited Beijing, Wuhan, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Chengdu. Here are some interesting facts about Covid that I have not yet read in the media:
Read: Out of all people who live in China, 13.5% are between 20 and 29 years old. Out of those who were infected in China, 8.1% were in this age group (this does not mean that 8.1% of people between 20 and 29 become infected). This means that the likelihood of someone at this age to catch the infection is somewhat lower compared to the average. And of those who caught the infection in this age group, 0.2% died.
The WHO sent 25 international experts to China and here are their main findings after 9 days
The WHO has sent a team of international experts to China to investigate the situation, including Clifford Lane, Clinical Director at the US National Institutes of Health. Here is the press conference on Youtube and the final report of the commission as PDF after they visited Beijing, Wuhan, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Chengdu. Here are some interesting facts about Covid that I have not yet read in the media:
- When a cluster of several infected people occurred in China, it was most often (78-85%) caused by an infection within the family by droplets and other carriers of infection in close contact with an infected person. Transmission by fine aerosols in the air over long distances is not one of the main causes of spread. Most of the 2,055 infected hospital workers were either infected at home or in the early phase of the outbreak in Wuhan when hospital safeguards were not raised yet.
- 5% of people who are diagnosed with Covid require artificial respiration. Another 15% need to breathe in highly concentrated oxygen - and not just for a few days. The duration from the beginning of the disease until recovery is 3 to 6 weeks on average for these severe and critical patients (compared to only 2 weeks for the mildly ill). The mass and duration of the treatments overburdened the existing health care system in Wuhan many times over. The province of Hubei, whose capital is Wuhan, had 65,596 infected persons so far. A total of 40,000 employees were sent to Hubei from other provinces to help fight the epidemic. 45 hospitals in Wuhan are caring for Covid patients, 6 of which are for patients in critical condition and 39 are caring for seriously ill patients and for infected people over the age of 65. Two makeshift hospitals with 2,600 beds were built within a short time. 80% of the infected have mild disease, ten temporary hospitals were set up in gymnasiums and exhibition halls for those.
- China can now produce 1.6 million test kits for the novel coronavirus per week. The test delivers a result on the same day. Across the country, anyone who goes to the doctor with a fever is screened for the virus: In Guangdong province, far from Wuhan, 320,000 people have been tested, and 0.14% of those were positive for the virus.
- The vast majority of those infected sooner or later develop symptoms. Cases of people in whom the virus has been detected and who do not have symptoms at that time are rare - and most of them fall ill in the next few days.
- The most common symptoms are fever (88%) and dry cough (68%). Exhaustion (38%), expectoration of mucus when coughing (33%), shortness of breath (18%), sore throat (14%), headaches (14%), muscle aches (14%), chills (11%) are also common. Less frequent are nausea and vomiting (5%), stuffy nose (5%) and diarrhoea (4%). Running nose is not a symptom of Covid.
- An examination of 44,672 infected people in China showed a fatality rate of 3.4%. Fatality is strongly influenced by age, pre-existing conditions, gender, and especially the response of the health care system. All fatality figures reflect the state of affairs in China up to 17 February, and everything could be quite different in the future elsewhere.
- Healthcare system: 20% of infected people in China needed hospital treatment for weeks. China has hospital beds to treat 0.4% of the population at the same time - other developed countries have between 0.1% and 1.3% and most of these beds are already occupied with people who have other diseases. The fatality rate was 5.8% in Wuhan but 0.7% in other areas of China, which China explained with the lack of critical care beds in Wuhan. In order to keep the fatality rate low like outside of Wuhan, other countries have to aggressively contain the spread of the virus in order to keep the number of seriously ill Covid patients low and secondly increase the number of critical care beds until there is enough for the seriously ill. China also tested various treatment methods for the unknown disease and the most successful ones were implemented nationwide. Thanks to this response, the fatality rate in China is now lower than a month ago.
- Pre-existing conditions: The fatality rate for those infected with pre-existing cardiovascular disease in China was 13.2%. It was 9.2% for those infected with high blood sugar levels (uncontrolled diabetes), 8.4% for high blood pressure, 8% for chronic respiratory diseases and 7.6% for cancer. Infected persons without a relevant previous illness died in 1.4% of cases.
- Gender: Women catch the disease just as often as men. But only 2.8% of Chinese women who were infected died from the disease, while 4.7% of the infected men died. The disease appears to be not more severe in pregnant women than in others. In 9 examined births of infected women, the children were born by caesarean section and healthy without being infected themselves. The women were infected in the last trimester of pregnancy. What effect an infection in the first or second trimester has on embryos is currently unclear as these children are still unborn.
- Age: The younger you are, the less likely you are to be infected and the less likely you are to fall seriously ill if you do get infected:
| Age | % of population | % of infected | Fatality |
|---|---|---|---|
| 0-9 | 12.0% | 0,9% | 0 as of now |
| 10-19 | 11.6% | 1.2% | 0.2% |
| 20-29 | 13.5% | 8.1% | 0.2% |
| 30-39 | 15.6% | 17.0% | 0.2% |
| 40-49 | 15.6% | 19.2% | 0.4% |
| 50-59 | 15.0% | 22.4% | 1.3% |
| 60-69 | 10.4% | 19.2% | 3.6% |
| 70-79 | 4.7% | 8.8% | 8.0% |
| 80+ | 1.8% | 3.2% | 14.8% |
continued:
"China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic. In the face of a previously unknown virus, China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious, agile and aggressive disease containment effort in history. China’s uncompromising and rigorous use of non-pharmaceutical measures to contain transmission of the COVID-19 virus in multiple settings provides vital lessons for the global response. This rather unique and unprecedented public health response in China reversed the escalating cases in both Hubei, where there has been widespread community transmission, and in the importation provinces, where family clusters appear to have driven the outbreak."
"Much of the global community is not yet ready, in mindset and materially, to implement the measures that have been employed to contain COVID-19 in China. These are the only measures that are currently proven to interrupt or minimize transmission chains in humans. Fundamental to these measures is extremely proactive surveillance to immediately detect cases, very rapid diagnosis and immediate case isolation, rigorous tracking and quarantine of close contacts, and an exceptionally high degree of population understanding and acceptance of these measures."
"COVID-19 is spreading with astonishing speed; COVID-19 outbreaks in any setting have very serious consequences; and there is now strong evidence that non-pharmaceutical interventions can reduce and even interrupt transmission. Concerningly, global and national preparedness planning is often ambivalent about such interventions. However, to reduce COVID-19 illness and death, near-term readiness planning must embrace the large-scale implementation of high-quality, non-pharmaceutical public health measures. These measures must fully incorporate immediate case detection and isolation, rigorous close contact tracing and monitoring/quarantine, and direct population/community engagement."
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- Your likelihood to die: Some people who are in an age group read the fatality rate and think this is their personal likelihood that they will if they get infected. No, because all the other risk factors also apply. Men in this that age group will more likely die than women, people with preexisting conditions more than healthy people, and people in overcrowded hospitals more than those in hospitals where they get the care they need.
- The new virus is genetically 96% identical to a known coronavirus in bats and 86-92% identical to a coronavirus in pangolin. Therefore, the transmission of a mutated virus from animals to humans is the most likely cause of the appearance of the new virus.
- Since the end of January, the number of new coronavirus diagnoses in China has been steadily declining (shown here as a graph) with now only 329 new diagnoses within the last day - one month ago it was around 3,000 a day. "This decline in COVID-19 cases across China is real," the report says. The authors conclude this from their own experience on site, declining hospital visits in the affected regions, the increasing number of unoccupied hospital beds, and the problems of Chinese scientists to recruit enough newly infected for the clinical studies of the numerous drug trials. Here is the relevant part of the press conference about the decline assessment.
- One of the important reasons for containing the outbreak is that China is interviewing all infected people nationwide about their contact persons and then tests those. There are 1,800 teams in Wuhan to do this, each with at least 5 people. But the effort outside of Wuhan is also big. In Shenzhen, for example, the infected named 2,842 contact persons, all of whom were found, testing is now completed for 2,240, and 2.8% of those had contracted the virus. In Sichuan province, 25,493 contact persons were named, 25,347 (99%) were found, 23,178 have already been examined and 0.9% of them were infected. In the province of Guangdong, 9,939 contacts were named, all found, 7,765 are already examined and 4.8% of them were infected. That means: If you have direct personal contact with an infected person, the probability of infection is between 1% and 5%.
"China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic. In the face of a previously unknown virus, China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious, agile and aggressive disease containment effort in history. China’s uncompromising and rigorous use of non-pharmaceutical measures to contain transmission of the COVID-19 virus in multiple settings provides vital lessons for the global response. This rather unique and unprecedented public health response in China reversed the escalating cases in both Hubei, where there has been widespread community transmission, and in the importation provinces, where family clusters appear to have driven the outbreak."
"Much of the global community is not yet ready, in mindset and materially, to implement the measures that have been employed to contain COVID-19 in China. These are the only measures that are currently proven to interrupt or minimize transmission chains in humans. Fundamental to these measures is extremely proactive surveillance to immediately detect cases, very rapid diagnosis and immediate case isolation, rigorous tracking and quarantine of close contacts, and an exceptionally high degree of population understanding and acceptance of these measures."
"COVID-19 is spreading with astonishing speed; COVID-19 outbreaks in any setting have very serious consequences; and there is now strong evidence that non-pharmaceutical interventions can reduce and even interrupt transmission. Concerningly, global and national preparedness planning is often ambivalent about such interventions. However, to reduce COVID-19 illness and death, near-term readiness planning must embrace the large-scale implementation of high-quality, non-pharmaceutical public health measures. These measures must fully incorporate immediate case detection and isolation, rigorous close contact tracing and monitoring/quarantine, and direct population/community engagement."
r/China_Flu - The WHO sent 25 international experts to China and here are their main findings after 9 days
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We have way too much Freedums in this country for those particular measures to work.
Maybe moar gunz ?
Maybe moar gunz ?
So I've got six weeks until the Boston Marathon, which I have been training my ass off for.
Tokyo Marathon cancelled.
Rome Marathon cancelled.
Jerusalem Marathon postponed.
Paris Marathon postponed.
Right now Boston is saying the marathon will go on, but I am bracing for the possibility it does not. My backup plan is in place though: New Jersey Marathon six days later. And if that gets cancelled....
Tokyo Marathon cancelled.
Rome Marathon cancelled.
Jerusalem Marathon postponed.
Paris Marathon postponed.
Right now Boston is saying the marathon will go on, but I am bracing for the possibility it does not. My backup plan is in place though: New Jersey Marathon six days later. And if that gets cancelled....
yea, i would definitely anticipate push back from a certain, uh, segment of the population if mandatory isolation measures were put in place. maybe we'd get lucky and they'd darwin themselves upon breaking mandatory quarantine
Just ride that new bike you want in the woods alone instead.So I've got six weeks until the Boston Marathon, which I have been training my ass off for.
Tokyo Marathon cancelled.
Rome Marathon cancelled.
Jerusalem Marathon postponed.
Paris Marathon postponed.
Right now Boston is saying the marathon will go on, but I am bracing for the possibility it does not. My backup plan is in place though: New Jersey Marathon six days later. And if that gets cancelled....
Why not just go out the door and run for 26.2 miles?So I've got six weeks until the Boston Marathon, which I have been training my ass off for.
Tokyo Marathon cancelled.
Rome Marathon cancelled.
Jerusalem Marathon postponed.
Paris Marathon postponed.
Right now Boston is saying the marathon will go on, but I am bracing for the possibility it does not. My backup plan is in place though: New Jersey Marathon six days later. And if that gets cancelled....
if the marathon is cancelled and @I Are Baboon does this and beats his PR, I will send him a pie.
Stupid isn't limited to the deplorable class.
Coronavirus-infected resident in New Hampshire attended party at event space after being told to stay home
Management for an event space in Vermont reported a person infected with the coronavirus attended a private party there Friday night.
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bogo?
touche.Stupid isn't limited to the deplorable class.
Coronavirus-infected resident in New Hampshire attended party at event space after being told to stay home
Management for an event space in Vermont reported a person infected with the coronavirus attended a private party there Friday night.
k-pop corona ftw
Don't all those things require *RUNNING* 26 miles and change?So I've got six weeks until the Boston Marathon, which I have been training my ass off for.
Tokyo Marathon cancelled.
Rome Marathon cancelled.
Jerusalem Marathon postponed.
Paris Marathon postponed.
Right now Boston is saying the marathon will go on, but I am bracing for the possibility it does not. My backup plan is in place though: New Jersey Marathon six days later. And if that gets cancelled....
no one is going to get the china syndrome riding a bike in the woods....
Awwww shit........
Stay away @Toshi! STAY AWAY!!!!!!
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Stay away @Toshi! STAY AWAY!!!!!!
Coronavirus: 2 ‘presumptive positive’ cases in Colorado, Polis says
DENVER (KDVR) – Two “presumptive positive” cases of the novel coronavirus have been confirmed in Colorado, Gov. Jared Polis said Thursday afternoon. According to Summit County…
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Not true. Your body is fighting off infections all the time. High power antibiotics give your immune system the ability to focus on the virus without having to fight off all the bacterial stuff. That's why they give it to you.
Having been away for many days in the Alaskan wilderness doing the iditarod race...I was expecting to see the end of the world when I returned to civilization today. Huge disappoint.
@jonKranked
This is kinda fascinating: "Age: The younger you are, the less likely you are to be infected and the less likely you are to fall seriously ill if you do get infected: "
I've spent the past 10-12yrs treating my children's daycare/school communicable sicknesses and now they're they most likely ones to survive. I applaud you Coronavirus-19
(I'd also like to submit for considering this be called the GOP-ronavirus since it's clearly targeting that voting segment in the US)
This is kinda fascinating: "Age: The younger you are, the less likely you are to be infected and the less likely you are to fall seriously ill if you do get infected: "
I've spent the past 10-12yrs treating my children's daycare/school communicable sicknesses and now they're they most likely ones to survive. I applaud you Coronavirus-19
(I'd also like to submit for considering this be called the GOP-ronavirus since it's clearly targeting that voting segment in the US)
so covid-19 is ageist.