My booster was Moderna as well. Previous shots were Pfizer. I think I'm clear now.
CoVID-19
Is that Kodiyakredd on piano?
So the government is now saying "Ok so Onicron is going to break thu the quarantine system eventually so when it does we plan to give financial assistance to any business to pay staff if they have to self isolate due to covid."
Thank fuck we don't have the RW'ers still in charge during this!
www.business.govt.nz
Thank fuck we don't have the RW'ers still in charge during this!
Financial support for businesses
A summary of the financial support available to help you, your business and employees in times of difficulty, to recover from the effects of COVID-19.
"Don't make me turn this 777 around"
I couldn't stay out of it, but apparently if you give reasonable arguments pro vaccines your posts get deleted?
Wow - the stupid in the comments is impressive.I couldn't stay out of it, but apparently if you give reasonable arguments pro vaccines your posts get deleted?
I like Shawn, but he shouldn't be surprised that turned into the shit show it did (and how quickly) given the influx of PB users from last summer.
florida man needs to be banned IMO. he's added nothing of value to any thread he posts in.
Update: apparently the dude that I quoted deleted his posts and account, so my reply got nuked. It was not Spomer, all good!
well, the thread is still a shit show.Update: apparently the dude that I quoted deleted his posts and account, so my reply got nuked. It was not Spomer, all good!
Yeah, but at least Spomer is not deleting pro vaccine posts.
he does do a good job overall with the site and moderation, but topics like that it's really a no win situation. at least he was able to keep the topic out of the team & tech rumor threads
CAnCeL CulTUrE1!1Update: apparently the dude that I quoted deleted his posts and account, so my reply got nuked. It was not Spomer, all good!
that's my assumption.
also fuck that guy citing like 2 examples of adverse events, probably the same kind of person that loves to cite percentage rates for survivability, but the AE rate wouldn't support his fAcTs
that's how Peggy Hill kicked her Boggle addictionI just have to say - this is an awesome misspelling!
Res ipsa loquitur
Actual question relating to COVID vaccination.
At this point with the Omicron variant, it doesn't appear as though vaccination has any significant impact on transmissibility. With the "early" variant/variants the data suggested something like an 80-90% reduction in probability of getting the virus. I haven't been able to find any updated statistics for Omicron (in fairness I haven't looked much). With that in mind, what are the vaccination requirements, both for a country like France but also for admission into a restaurant etc, focused on? The protection against hospitalization/death is pretty good justification for getting the vaccine and I can see the push for it in that regard because people dying is generally a bad thing. But are we past the point of "get vaccinated to protect others"? Mitigation against further variants?
(To be clear, I'm vaccinated/boosted and will gladly sign up for another if/when available).
At this point with the Omicron variant, it doesn't appear as though vaccination has any significant impact on transmissibility. With the "early" variant/variants the data suggested something like an 80-90% reduction in probability of getting the virus. I haven't been able to find any updated statistics for Omicron (in fairness I haven't looked much). With that in mind, what are the vaccination requirements, both for a country like France but also for admission into a restaurant etc, focused on? The protection against hospitalization/death is pretty good justification for getting the vaccine and I can see the push for it in that regard because people dying is generally a bad thing. But are we past the point of "get vaccinated to protect others"? Mitigation against further variants?
(To be clear, I'm vaccinated/boosted and will gladly sign up for another if/when available).
I guess it depends on your definition of "significant" - but vaccination does help even with Omicron WRT transmissibility. But I'm no expert, and will let them speak to the details...
even if you get you're much less likely to get a severe case and/or die from it.
basically like the flu vaccine.
Presuming it still reduces the possible viral load in your system for shedding and potentially infecting others.
Here is actual data, at least for my local county. People who aren't vaccinated are 2.5 times more likely to catch the omicron variant. This is in a county with about 80% vaccination rate. The data from the redneck corner of the county with much lower vaccination rates, the unvaccinated are 14.6 times more likely to catch Covid
Hey Westy,
I help people in my state in the same situation all the time.
What most of them do is get an ACA health plan after they stop work.
The prices for these are based on your adjusted gross income which is of course lower after you stop working.
This works best for people who have a good chunk in their bank account going in to getting the plan, then
their only income they show is what they have to pull out for retirement etc...
I have some people paying $0 for their health plan between 60 and 65 until they hit medicare.
Just out of curiosity... what's the threshold AGI-wise for a $0 plan?
Asking for... a friend.
Travis Coates.
Mr Ed?
A single 60 year old male in my state can make $35,000 and still get a $0 plan.Just out of curiosity... what's the threshold AGI-wise for a $0 plan?
Asking for... a friend.
Absolutely. And I'm on board with it, just trying to understand whether the rationale for vaccine mandates at this point is based on earlier data where vaccines had a very large impact on transmissibility, a general push to avoid people in the hospital, or something else.
Thanks, that's the kind of data that I was looking for. Suppose it's still difficult to separate vaccine effects vs behaviors of the vaccinated and unvaccinated, but glad to know that there's at least some potential added protection against Omicron.
That's what I would also naively hope/assume.
My only concern is that I have a pre-existing condition requiring expensive medication. Back in 2009 I considered starting my own business but getting my own health insurance was cost prohibitive, as in more than my actual corporate salary. Perhaps with ACA it would not be such an issue.
meant to add, a lot of regions have stopped doing elective surgeries, again.
Agreed, and there is still Delta out there so it isn't a 100% Omicron scenario. But I don't think omicron cares about behavior all that much. This is just a sample size of 1 but I am 90% sure I caught the Omicron and the only time I left the house the week prior was a doctors appointment and a trip to the grocery store. I was masked and everyone I came in contact with was masked and the only person I had a conversation with (my doctor) was doubled masked. However, I do take immunosuppresants so from what I understand my antibody reaction to vaccination is significantly reduced.
All of these. The best way to "get back to normal" is to get everyone vaccinated. It really is that simple.