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FYI, I wouldn't put too much trust into the home test kits. I took two of them over the last 2 weeks and they both came up negative, my test from yesterday here at the ER came back positive, no symptoms and 2 weeks post contraction.

"PositiveSARS-CoV-2 Interpretation: The 2019 novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) nucleic acids are detected. Positive SARS-CoV-2 Interpretation: The 2019 novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) target nucleic acids are detected. "


The pool or the toilet?
Good question, I was drunk enough that night to probably do both.
 

canadmos

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wooo Ontario is finally going to start "opening" up things.

One of those is the vaccination passport thing that was in place for restaurants and whatnot. I'm all for getting the vaccine and whatnot, but it just seemed silly to push that onto businesses. I think it should have been up to individual businesses to decide if they only let vaccinated inside or not. Patrons can decide for themselves if they want to keep frequenting those that don't see the need to restrict who can enter.

Not to mention how much Ontario probably spent on implementing that system, for it to be used for a few months.

Effective February 17, 2022

Ontario will further ease public health measures, including, but not limited to:

  • Increasing social gathering limits to 50 people indoors and 100 people outdoors
  • Increasing organized public event limits to 50 people indoors, with no limit outdoors
  • Removing capacity limits in the following indoor public settings where proof of vaccination is required, including but not limited to:
    • Restaurants, bars and other food or drink establishments without dance facilities
    • Non-spectator areas of sports and recreational fitness facilities, including gyms
    • Cinemas
    • Meeting and event spaces, including conference centres or convention centres
    • Casinos, bingo halls and other gaming establishments
    • Indoor areas of settings that choose to opt-in to proof of vaccination requirements.
  • Allowing 50 per cent of the usual seating capacity at sports arenas
  • Allowing 50 percent of the usual seating capacity for concert venues and theatres
  • Increasing indoor capacity limits to 25 per cent in the remaining higher-risk settings where proof of vaccination is required, including nightclubs, restaurants where there is dancing, as well as bathhouses and sex clubs
  • Increasing capacity limits for indoor weddings, funerals or religious services, rites, or ceremonies to the number of people who can maintain two metres physical distance. Capacity limits are removed if the location opts-in to use proof of vaccination or if the service, rite, or ceremony is occurring outdoors.
 

slyfink

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wooo Ontario is finally going to start "opening" up things.

One of those is the vaccination passport thing that was in place for restaurants and whatnot. I'm all for getting the vaccine and whatnot, but it just seemed silly to push that onto businesses. I think it should have been up to individual businesses to decide if they only let vaccinated inside or not. Patrons can decide for themselves if they want to keep frequenting those that don't see the need to restrict who can enter.

Not to mention how much Ontario probably spent on implementing that system, for it to be used for a few months.
you think that if they left it up to businesses, any of them would have implemented it? I guess we'll see moving forward if any choose to do so.

I for one, would much prefer to frequent establishments that continue to screen... I'm really not ready to share air with mouth-breathers at this point. If none are going to do it, then I guess I'll wait for patio season.
 

Westy

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We had/have a vaccination requirement for indoor dining but not every business enforces it and per normal the city enforces nothing. Well one bar got into trouble after advertising free food if you actually showed up with an active case of Covid.
 

canadmos

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you think that if they left it up to businesses, any of them would have implemented it? I guess we'll see moving forward if any choose to do so.

I for one, would much prefer to frequent establishments that continue to screen... I'm really not ready to share air with mouth-breathers at this point. If none are going to do it, then I guess I'll wait for patio season.
I guess that will be seen and something we don't know the answer to.

I think some will choose to do so - some businesses around here are very strict about their rules and whatnot. Others, yeah not so much.

Its also pretty evident that you can get/transmit covid even if you're vaccinated, heck I got it while out on a hike. Now don't get me wrong, in no way am I sticking up for those tools that choose to not get vaccinated, but we've protected ourselves and mask up and everything else. Those that choose to go forward without being vaccinated, well so be it, I don't care if they are more vulnerable because of that. They can get it an suffer.
 

jonKranked

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i've been in office all week. upper management had a pow wow here yesterday, directors from 4 states and one from the EU. i was literally the only one wearing a mask.
 

slyfink

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I guess that will be seen and something we don't know the answer to.

I think some will choose to do so - some businesses around here are very strict about their rules and whatnot. Others, yeah not so much.

Its also pretty evident that you can get/transmit covid even if you're vaccinated, heck I got it while out on a hike. Now don't get me wrong, in no way am I sticking up for those tools that choose to not get vaccinated, but we've protected ourselves and mask up and everything else. Those that choose to go forward without being vaccinated, well so be it, I don't care if they are more vulnerable because of that. They can get it an suffer.
I agree. And I guess this is the part where we "learn to live with it"...

I'm not saying I'll never change, I suppose eventually I'll get there (heck, I'm actually thinking of flying down to AZ over March break with one of my boys to visit family there), but for the moment, with all the hell that's been flying loose around me here, I'm just not ready. too many mouth-breathers. even if they don't have covid, I just don't want to be around them anymore.
 

canadmos

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I agree. And I guess this is the part where we "learn to live with it"...

I'm not saying I'll never change, I suppose eventually I'll get there (heck, I'm actually thinking of flying down to AZ over March break with one of my boys to visit family there), but for the moment, with all the hell that's been flying loose around me here, I'm just not ready. too many mouth-breathers. even if they don't have covid, I just don't want to be around them anymore.
Yeah travelling still seems like a major pain and frustration point.

The one thing I hope we get out of this, is if someone is sick, just stay the heck away from work/restaurants/etc etc. Doesn't matter if its Covid, ebola, sudden onset of political unwellness or whatever else, no one wants to get sick.
 

AngryMetalsmith

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I guess that will be seen and something we don't know the answer to.

I think some will choose to do so - some businesses around here are very strict about their rules and whatnot. Others, yeah not so much.

Its also pretty evident that you can get/transmit covid even if you're vaccinated, heck I got it while out on a hike. Now don't get me wrong, in no way am I sticking up for those tools that choose to not get vaccinated, but we've protected ourselves and mask up and everything else. Those that choose to go forward without being vaccinated, well so be it, I don't care if they are more vulnerable because of that. They can get it an suffer.
This is what I’ve been concerned with. Were you in close proximity to someone who was infected for an extended period of time or did you catch it in passing. Is the Omircon variant that much more transmissible that you can become infected just from passing someone on a trail ?
 

canadmos

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This is what I’ve been concerned with. Were you in close proximity to someone who was infected for an extended period of time or did you catch it in passing. Is the Omircon variant that much more transmissible that you can become infected just from passing someone on a trail ?
Our friend, who we were hiking with, tested positive a few days later. He did a few rapid tests earlier in the week, as his kids weren't feeling well, but tested negative at that time.

We hiked on either a Monday or Tuesday and by Friday afternoon, myself and the girlfriend were not feeling great. Tested positive on the following Tuesday.

We were hiking together, but its not like we were hugging or anything. And it was on slippery snow on narrow tracks so we were mostly spread out.

I think we just have to accept the risk that if you pass by someone close, there's a chance that you could catch it. They could also whip out an axe and kill you, so there's that too. :busted:
 

Jm_

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Our friend, who we were hiking with, tested positive a few days later. He did a few rapid tests earlier in the week, as his kids weren't feeling well, but tested negative at that time.

We hiked on either a Monday or Tuesday and by Friday afternoon, myself and the girlfriend were not feeling great. Tested positive on the following Tuesday.

We were hiking together, but its not like we were hugging or anything. And it was on slippery snow on narrow tracks so we were mostly spread out.

I think we just have to accept the risk that if you pass by someone close, there's a chance that you could catch it. They could also whip out an axe and kill you, so there's that too. :busted:
Contaminated surface, like a door knob, handle, etc. That's where my money would be.
 

Westy

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jonKranked

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Being a data nerd I have noticed that for kids the vaccine only made a modest difference in infection and hospitalization. Much less effective than for adults. However the booster was extremely effective, pretty much 0% chance of a child being hospitalized.
from what i read previously the pediatric dose was on the low side? and they also had to go back an increase the trial size prior to submission for EUA.

i was excited when i saw they were submitting for EUA for 4 and under, until i saw the dose. its even lower still. my daughter turns 5 in may, at this point i will likely wait until she hits that age for the larger dose.
 

slyfink

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@slyfink

This your doing?
No, but one of my close buddies is in that neighborhood, and on that Facebook group. He grew up with the MPP for the area, and the organizer is the MPP's sister. It all happened very 'spur of the moment' apparently. It's amazing that this is starting happen more and more, but it's a definite failure of the police that it had to happen at all.
 

slyfink

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these morons have to be headed home soon, right?
Fucked if I know. They've definitely overstayed their welcome...

But the police have let them turn it into a huge party with hot tubs, saunas, bouncy castles, a music stage with DJs and a light show... there were pictures floating around of a pig roast yesterday. And with all the money flowing in from foreign donors, why would they leave?

If not even the threat of losing their commercial licenses and being unable to renew their insurance is a deterrent... I'm not sure what will be.
 

canadmos

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If not even the threat of losing their commercial licenses and being unable to renew their insurance is a deterrent... I'm not sure what will be.
Most of them aren't commercial truck drivers it appears, so it appears that won't have an affect.

Just start ticketing them over and over for blocking the road. That'd at least be a start. I know if I left my vehicle in the middle of the road anywhere itd be towed pretty quick.
 

dump

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Most of them aren't commercial truck drivers it appears, so it appears that won't have an affect.

Just start ticketing them over and over for blocking the road. That'd at least be a start. I know if I left my vehicle in the middle of the road anywhere itd be towed pretty quick.
Yeah, honestly. Clearing them out is long overdue. Wtf is going on here?
 

slyfink

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Sep 16, 2008
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Most of them aren't commercial truck drivers it appears, so it appears that won't have an affect.

Just start ticketing them over and over for blocking the road. That'd at least be a start. I know if I left my vehicle in the middle of the road anywhere itd be towed pretty quick.
I agree, most of the protesters that remain aren't truckers, but there's enough of them to make things complicated. There's still a lot of big-rigs parked all around the "red zone". It's in the several 100s. from what I understand, getting them out of there without the truckers' consent and cooperation is really tough. Something about locking brake lines, that sort of thing...
 

Jozz

Joe Dalton
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please tell me they are not the ones that shot your window?!
ah! no. They live half a kilometer away. But I can hear them using their wood machineries all summer long...

Side note; window shooter sold his house two days ago. We are getting new neighbors.
 

eric strt6

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Sep 8, 2001
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I agree, most of the protesters that remain aren't truckers, but there's enough of them to make things complicated. There's still a lot of big-rigs parked all around the "red zone". It's in the several 100s. from what I understand, getting them out of there without the truckers' consent and cooperation is really tough. Something about locking brake lines, that sort of thing...
big rig tow trucks carry special clamps to overcome locked air brakes. time consuming but not a big thing