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MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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chez moi
We have capacity for handling flu as it has been, as best we can, built into the medical system's current capacity. This is something totally new and has the capacity to overwhelm the capacity of our medical system (and already is doing this locally in many places) for both COVID itself and every other parallel medical need we have during the crisis.
 

mandown

Poopdeck Repost
Jun 1, 2004
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Transylvania 90210
We have capacity for handling flu as it has been, as best we can, built into the medical system's current capacity. This is something totally new and has the capacity to overwhelm the capacity of our medical system (and already is doing this locally in many places) for both COVID itself and every other parallel medical need we have during the crisis.
Once more for the asshats in the back.
 

eric strt6

Resident Curmudgeon
Sep 8, 2001
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directly above the center of the earth
so we had our weekly All Agencies county wide Covid 19 conference calls some good news and some good until you look at the numbers news

On the good side, we have Adequate PPE for first responders and Hospitals. Due to the Stay the fuck home orders Ambulance transport volume has dropped 51% (fewer car wrecks). Current hospital capacity sounds good until you look at the county population. We currently have 421 open hospital beds, 86 critical care beds and 141 available ventilators. We have 1.7 million county residents. we are screwed. They just petitioned the state to set up and staff two Mash style tent hospitals to divert non critical patients to at the fairgrounds and Coliseum
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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Yup - while we continue to have a dual-income, we're going to stack that cash HIGH.
great grandfather had like 30k hidden in a wall in his home in philly....same with grandfather...nothing like living through a depression....
I went through 3 days of fever spikes up to 102*, now the dry cough lingers, but no respiratory issues. 6th has respiratory distress but missing other symptoms. It's all figure it out as we go right now.
are you going to get tested or did they tell you come back when your worse?
 
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Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Sleazattle
Unless my 10-key punching was bad, looks like South Korea and Switzerland are ahead by percentage of confirmed cases. South Korea 0.18%, Switzerland 0.14%, Italy 0.13%, China 0.01%, USA 0.03%.

Simply Hopkins confirmed divided by wiki population at 7/1/19

South Korea did a great job testing and probably have the best data. Lots of us suspect they are sick but have no way to confirm.
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
65,742
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In a van.... down by the river
so we had our weekly All Agencies county wide Covid 19 conference calls some good news and some good until you look at the numbers news

On the good side, we have Adequate PPE for first responders and Hospitals. Due to the Stay the fuck home orders Ambulance transport volume has dropped 51% (fewer car wrecks). Current hospital capacity sounds good until you look at the county population. We currently have 421 open hospital beds, 86 critical care beds and 141 available ventilators. We have 1.7 million county residents. we are screwed. They just petitioned the state to set up and staff two Mash style tent hospitals to divert non critical patients to at the fairgrounds and Coliseum
Stay safe, man...
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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Some lib nerd shit. We fucked for a while

Their modeling site that lets one pick the state is very useful:


WA borderline. CO should be ok as should CA. LA not so much. NY very bad.
 

mykel

closer to Periwinkle
Apr 19, 2013
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Have read (without corroboration) that the severity of the case of the disease you get may not be simple binary, you got it or you don't, but based on the amount of virus you come in contact with. The greater the viral load of SARS CoV2 you acquire the worse the resulting bout of COVID-19 you get to experience.

@Toshi or anybody else have any input?

Also, have heard that from facial transmission the virus takes a day or two to migrate from place of entry down your throat to your lungs. There has been a bit of talk regarding oral hygiene, nasal flushing, gargling listerine et al to try to mitigate how much gets to your lungs. Any basis in fact, hopefull speculation or just nonsense?
 
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Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
38,333
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Have read (without collaboration) that the severity of the case of the disease you get may not be simple binary, you got it or you don't, but based on the amount of virus you come in contact with. The greater the viral load of SARS CoV2 you acquire the worse the resulting bout of COVID-19 you get to experience.

@Toshi or anybody else have any input?

Also, have heard that from facial transmission the virus takes a day or two to migrate from place of entry down your throat to your lungs. There has been a bit of talk regarding oral hygiene, nasal flushing, gargling listerine et al to try to mitigate how much gets to your lungs. Any basis in fact, hopefull speculation or just nonsense?
Viral load mattering is definitely plausible. Haven't seen any actual evidence as of yet on that. I have no idea if the migration idea is plausible or not but I'm skeptical just on principle.
 

iRider

Turbo Monkey
Apr 5, 2008
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Viral load mattering is definitely plausible. Haven't seen any actual evidence as of yet on that. I have no idea if the migration idea is plausible or not but I'm skeptical just on principle.
Infectious dose unknown but might be pretty low (10 day old data, sorry, doesn't copy nicely from PDF):

  • The human infectious doseofSARS- CoV-2, which causes coronavirus disease 19 (COVID-19) is currently unknown via all exposure routes. Animal data are used as surrogates.
  • Rhesusmacaquesareinfectedwith SARS-CoV-2 via the ocular conjunctival and intratracheal route at a dose of 700,000 PFU (106TCID50).51
  • Atotaldoseof700,000plaque- forming units (PFU) of SARS-CoV-2 infected cynomolgus macaques via a combination intranasal and intratracheal exposure (106 TCID50total dose).109 Macaques did not exhibit clinical symptoms, but shed virus through the nose and throat.109
  • Nonhumanprimateinfectionmaynot represent human infection.
  • Initial experiments suggest that SARS- CoV-2 can infect genetically modified mice containing the human ACE2 cell entry receptor. Infection via the intranasal route (dose: 105 TCID50, approximately 70,000 PFU) causes light infection, however no virus was isolated from infected animals, and polymerase chain reaction (PCR) primers used in the study do not align well with SARS-CoV-2, casting doubt on this study.14
  • TheinfectiousdoseforSARSinmice is estimated to be between 67-540 PFU (average 240 PFU, intranasal route).49-50
  • Geneticallymodifiedmiceexposed intranasally to doses of MERS virus between 100 and 500,000 PFU show signs of infection. Infection with
    higher doses result in severesyndromes.7, 41, 81, 150

Source: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_03_18_mql_covid-19-sars-cov-2_-_cleared_for_public_release_0.pdf
 

6thElement

Schrodinger's Immigrant
Jul 29, 2008
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