Anyone have any idea how much new lowers and one stanchion will cost? Can't exactly contact Rock Shox since it appears they only deal with dealers. Anyone have lowers they'd be willing to sell real cheap, like $20 cheap. This totally blows ass as I am not without a DH bike which I'm financing. ****in' Rock Shox. **** You.
Cracked Boxxer Lowers
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and I'm sure the lowers just simply split open by themselves? 
LOL
A friend of mine snapped hi lowers the other day nose manualing down steps.
Send it in to warranty through your LBS?
A friend of mine snapped hi lowers the other day nose manualing down steps.
Send it in to warranty through your LBS?
Ya Boxxer's are the only forks to succumb damage or sometime fail. Boycott Rock Shox!!
Finally.. I was beginning to think you'd never see the light...Acadian said:
I love comments like "my fork broke in three pieces, f**k you, <company>" - you have to do something pretty bad to the fork to crack both lowers and a stanction... Now how is this RockShox's fault?
Just becausebinary visions said:
I guess what people fail to realize is WHATEVER product you take off road and abuse (Ride those parts as they were intended to do so) have a chance to break, its just one of those facts of life. No part out there is indestructable, some maybe more durable than others, but eventually they'll all break.
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Brian HCM#1 said:Just because
Yup - I cracked my dropout on a Marathon and I ride like a big pussy.
Sounds like he wants to buy a new set of lowers, and is well aware that he (probably) directly caused the damage. However, he is pissed that rock shox wont sell them to him and are instead forcing him to go pay an increased price at his LBS.
I had Hippietech rebuild my Boxxer last year. It needed new lowers and one stanchion. The whole deal with tuning and return shipping was about $350. You'ld have to call or email him.
www.hippiesuspension.com
www.hippiesuspension.com
I agree. I don't mind getting stuff from my LBS if it didn't take so friggin' long! :mumble:Mattoid said:
And if you cant get it to break, give it to me for a monthBrian HCM#1 said:Just because
...you mean, like 90% of other bike manufacturers?Mattoid said:
I don't see why this is something to get mad about. You have to go to a dealer to get Honda parts, why should this be different? Most big manufacturers won't deal directly with the customer.
The question of buying another set of lowers for "like $20 cheap" indicates to me that he's not willing to shell out for the lowers that he damaged...
binary visions said:
$20 barely gets you a set of seals!!
yeh but rock shoxs are more prone to this than any other fork company out there. granted ive put my xc fork threw hell but im surprised its not smashed into a million pieces(rare case for rocks shocks for them to last this long). just get a marzocchi or a manitou and that will solve the messed up lowers and the rock shox prob. but manitou has some ****ty cs so go with marzocchi. lol
me89 said:
Right, because I haven't seen a dozen cracked Marzocchi crowns and as many broken Fox dropouts. Gimme a break.
Every fork company has their own problems. Destroyed lowers and stanctions are NOT something that typically falls under a design problem, they are a direct result of abuse.
And, incidentally, I have been treated very well by Manitou's customer service department.
This had to turn into a "RockShox sucks" thread, didn't it?
well my experiance with manitou has sucked. they take forever to get things done and they send you the wrong part. now dont get me wrong they make some kick ass products but i just dont like there cs. if you like them thats great im just a marzocchi man myself.
and from personal experiance the marzocchi forks have lasted a little bit longer than the boxxers. i wasnt sayin that they never break or dont have probs i was just talkin from personal experiance like you.
and from personal experiance the marzocchi forks have lasted a little bit longer than the boxxers. i wasnt sayin that they never break or dont have probs i was just talkin from personal experiance like you.
Everyone is going to have good and bad experiances with any company. Look at me I had good experiances with Karpiel & Stratos..............So there
Every fork does seem to have specific problems, but I wish that RS would address the dentability of their lowers in the same way that Manitou has tried to address leaky wipers and cracking arches (x-vert) and Marz has tried to address issues like tire clearence and sub-par cryofits. It seems like RS's answer to how soft their lowers are was to put on metal graphics that double as a flack jacket. RS lowers have been too soft since that fork came out. I am not saying that Man and Marz have always been 100% on the ball when it comes to addressing issues, but at least they have gotten something done. I have owned and like Boxxers, but am a little miffed that a 7 year old issue has been "fixed" with thick stickers. Gimme a break
There lowers are soft cause they're a light fork, there has to be some give some where, make it stronger or lighter. The Boxxer is more of a light weight race fork, not a big drop fork, I don't thing RS ever intended it to be one.
The lowers that I have seen broken were being ridden exactly as they were intended. In each case, it was a lower speed crash that resulted in a dent so deep that it stopped the stanctions from moving. The dents did not even have any cracks around them.Brian HCM#1 said:
ah yes...this thread has turned into yet another of those great fork debates!!
Well, they have all new lowers for '05.Repack said:Every fork does seem to have specific problems, but I wish that RS would address the dentability of their lowers in the same way that Manitou has tried to address leaky wipers and cracking arches (x-vert) and Marz has tried to address issues like tire clearence and sub-par cryofits. It seems like RS's answer to how soft their lowers are was to put on metal graphics that double as a flack jacket. RS lowers have been too soft since that fork came out. I am not saying that Man and Marz have always been 100% on the ball when it comes to addressing issues, but at least they have gotten something done. I have owned and like Boxxers, but am a little miffed that a 7 year old issue has been "fixed" with thick stickers. Gimme a break
I am not sure if they are thicker, but I know they are addressing the chubby checker like twisting of the old ones.
When my buddy twisted his, they looked at it and said yeah its twisted,
and he said but I did not even crash. And they said, Oh, you do not have to crash to twist these lowers, you can do it just riding. :nuts:
Most honest answer I have ever heard from a company.
ask Mani_UT had such an experience with his fork (which is not a Boxxer btw). and the dent was SUPER small....Repack said:
God, what an appropriate smilie.Acadian said:ah yes...this thread has turned into yet another of those great fork debates!!
Its all part of the sport though, if you crash there is a very good chance you'll damage something. Sounds like they need a different fork them. I think people have to look at the whole picture of what they are buying. Just like when and if the M3 ever makes it out to the public, its designed to be a race bike ONLY not intened for drops. But as we all know in here, someones going to hit a big drop and destroy the frame, then let the crying begin.Repack said:
ya, just like 823s....Acadian said:
do I go posting hate threads about 823s?zedro said:ya, just like 823s....
do I jump on every threads that mentiones 823s and start bashing them?
heck..I still use a D3.1 on the front of my bike and will probably give the new (if they ever release one) ones a try.
so bugger off...
I don't think he's singling out you Luc. Sh*t I've been going through 823's and still use them.
guess I'm just e-PMSing
Just having a bad day..feel like everyone is coming down on me today - as long as nobody comes down on my toe...I should be okay!
Just having a bad day..feel like everyone is coming down on me today - as long as nobody comes down on my toe...I should be okay!
*STOMP*Acadian said:
hehe....actually got you and VV mixed up....was gonna bring up a quote from that thread to annihilate you but it was a case of mistaken identityAcadian said:
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ouch...that hurts even more than my toe!!zedro said:
first off, who races with boxxer race's when they're serious about racing? second, i can't justify spending more than $20 on anything boxxer when something like this is prone to happen again, which would probably be in another month at this rate. third, granted i may suck at riding, but not everyone rides like gracia and if anyone wanted to ride like gracia, they'd probably have to train quite hard and willing to go faster which would result in the same type of crashes putting the fork in the same situation as in the hands of a ****ty rider. fourth, if i were to spend anything close to 300-400 for a replacement or a fix, i would most definitely not put it back into a rock shox. maybe it's iron horse's crappy build or rock shox but deciding to put no oil in one leg, and too much does not do much for wanting another boxxer.
I say sell the Boxxer since it seems to be causing you some grief. Then invest in either a Dorado, 888 or maybe something else...
when you crash at race speeds, which it sounds like you tend to do often, it will be MUCH cheaper to fix/replace.
PS: people serous about racing race on pretty anything they can get their hands on...as long as they are out there on their bike(s), they usually don't seem to care.
when you crash at race speeds, which it sounds like you tend to do often, it will be MUCH cheaper to fix/replace.
PS: people serous about racing race on pretty anything they can get their hands on...as long as they are out there on their bike(s), they usually don't seem to care.
What are you trying to say? You are buying a bike at one price point but you expect quality at a different price point. If you got the fork on an IH you do not get better value for you money. That said if you want a fork that last and little maintenance buy a used Shiver.
So, let me get this straight.ibismojo said:
You clearly are predisposed to hating Boxxers. Of course, you own the cheapest model they make and bought it on a value-priced bike, but let's not get into that.
You have crashed on the fork, subsequently destroying it (as tends to happen when you crash on forks hard. Any fork. Except maybe a Monster T).
You don't want to spend more than $20 to replace half the fork. Actually, you don't really want to fix the Boxxer at all.
You were missing some oil in the Boxxer when you first got it. Just like a lot of forks of other brands. No, it's not good, but it happens to everyone.
Is that everything?
Yeah! F*** RockShox!
Incidentally, IronHorse isn't responsible for the lack of oil in the Boxxer. That's RockShox's fault entirely - but like I said, it happens with a lot of forks.