Cracked Turner DHRs?

kidwoo · Jul 30, 2004

I had a piece of the swing link break. Mine is an 03 though and it was a poorly designed piece that's no longer the same pinner thickness on the 04's.

You break sumpin?

Espen · Jul 30, 2004

I have never heard of broken DHR's. Some pre 1.5 HT models had some issues with ovalized HT's. This can be fixed with a steelset.
All broken links will be replaced at no charge for what I know.

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Espen · Jul 30, 2004

Just call them, and ask what to do. give us a pic!

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Espen · Jul 30, 2004

I am not sure this IS a crack in the tube. Might be the powder only. You can see the shockmount is welded at each corner. Send the pic to Turner and ask them.

E

crashnscar said:
......
1st is where the shock mount part is welded to frame, in a curve on top of DT
2nd is same but an inch or 2 down. Cant see that 2nd is a crack from this pic

Acadian · Jul 30, 2004

Espen said:
I am not sure this IS a crack in the tube. Might be the powder only. You can see the shockmount is welded at each corner. Send the pic to Turner and ask them.

E

yup and yup

Other than links and what Kidwoo was sayin'. I've also never heard of a broken DHR.

thaflyinfatman · Jul 30, 2004

Acadian said:
yup and yup

Other than links and what Kidwoo was sayin'. I've also never heard of a broken DHR.

Dude on farkin broke his

Acadian · Jul 30, 2004

thaflyinfatman said:
Dude on farkin broke his

Aussies don't count!

Speaking of farkin - I got my Farkin shirt on :thumb:

I feel fast.

thaflyinfatman · Jul 30, 2004

Acadian said:
Aussies don't count!

Speaking of farkin - I got my Farkin shirt on I feel fast.

hahaha, the dude who broke it is like 14 and 150lbs.

Farkin shirt eh... could buy half a tyre with that $25...

vitox · Jul 30, 2004

i have seen marks like that, extremely similar to the picture, i didnt take the paint off, and ive also seen cracks on the front end, between a gusset and one of the top tubes, that and the ovalizing.

but still, the DHR is an extremely durable bike, everything breaks sooner or later but with the DHR its definitely "later".

Fury · Jul 30, 2004

At the last race I did I laid it down hard in a corner in the woods and smoked a tree. I dented the downtube where the upper shock mount is and bent it (just a weee bit) but it didn't crack. I hit the tree with so much force that when my rear wheel dropped it actually ripped the tube of my romic in half!

Acadian · Jul 30, 2004

Fury said:
At the last race I did I laid it down hard in a corner in the woods and smoked a tree. I dented the downtube where the upper shock mount is and bent it (just a weee bit) but it didn't crack. I hit the tree with so much force that when my rear wheel dropped it actually ripped the tube of my romic in half!

holy crap Miko!!! what the hell?

you are not lucky with crashes this year eh? Hope you're okay tho?

Fury · Jul 30, 2004

I know dude, I rarely crash but when I do crash I make it worthwhile. When I hit the ground i think I dislocated my finger but popped it back in - either that or I broke a few bones at the base of it. It still hurts a lot (same hand as when I broke my ring finger earlier this year) but I'm racing tommorrow cuz I'm already falling behind in points now that I've missed 2 races.

bizutch · Jul 30, 2004

Have you talked to greg or Casey yet about it? I know it won't be under any sort of warranty being over 3 years old, but they will do their best to work with you.

I've owned an '02, 03 and now 04 model with zero cracks. Matter of fact my '02 still shows up at races in VA & WV under the guy I sold it to who loves it. And my teammates '02 model was sold to a guy in Cali and then recently bought by friend in TN who is racing it full time now. He won Expert 25-29 at Snowshoe on it!

Jeremy R · Jul 30, 2004

Yea, I took second and lost to my own bike.
Ah woe is me. :nopity:

Yep, those DHR's are strong, and if something does come up, they will take care of ya.
I have been on them for 3 whole seasons without any problems.

oly · Jul 30, 2004

CALL TURNER! Send them the photo. They are the only ones who can help you.

DLo · Jul 30, 2004

thaflyinfatman said:
hahaha, the dude who broke it is like 14 and 150lbs.

Actually the starter of this thread isn't far off from those specs

bizutch · Jul 30, 2004

you're kidding right? why bother paying the cost of overnight shipping. just rent a full blown Kona while you're there. Way cheaper!

kidwoo · Jul 31, 2004

Espen said:
I am not sure this IS a crack in the tube. Might be the powder only. You can see the shockmount is welded at each corner. Send the pic to Turner and ask them.

E

Powdercoats don't crack without the metal beneath it cracking, stretching or compressing. If there's a change in the powdercoat that is not an externally produced scratch, then the metal beneath it has moved.

Ohio the praying mantis has mentioned issues with the older system of shock mounts like yours but I haven't seen enough of them to offer any info.

Espen · Jul 31, 2004

You could be right. I was thinking that the PC layer might be thin right there, and the PC could be old and brittle. Again, call up Turner, and tell us what they say.

Jm_ · Jul 31, 2004

Fury said:
so much force that when my rear wheel dropped it actually ripped the tube of my romic in half!

well, yeah but it really doesn't take a lot of force to do that to a romic

at least with me it didnt...

Jm_ · Jul 31, 2004

BTW, if enough people post in this thread the bike will fix itself.

RiDurbin · Jul 31, 2004

My 03 cracked at the main pivot on the front triangle.

I looked at the 04's that were first run and they have a bridge welded at this point to reinforce the area. Most the problems with the 03's were with the swinglink and the main pivot on the swingarm itself, but mine was the first I had heard of a problem with the front triangle. There is a fix for both the swinglink and swingarm main pivot, but reinforcing the front triangle isn't really possible without stripping, welding, reheat treating and repowdercoating.

After noticing the crack, the bottom bracket area did seem underbuilt, especially considering what a high stress area this is.

Now the good news. I took it to Turner since I live close to them. Showed it to Dave. He looked at it for about 5 seconds, didn't try to accuse me of abusing it, didn't try and weasel his way out and say "oh, thats the first one I seen do that". Obviously a man of integrity. He just said "Yeah, we've had a few break there, we beefed up the first run of 04's and the 2nd run has a completely redesigned bottom bracket and swingarm. Let me go ahead and warranty it and give you a new front and swingarm"

Now keep in mind the swing arm wasn't bad and would fit the 04 front triangle. But the 04 swingarm is beefier and Dave didn't want me to have anymore problems.

30 minutes after I arrived, I walked out with a complete 04 frame. I have to say, Dave is one helluva nice guy and stands totally behind his product.

In regards to your 01, my son is still on my original 01 and it works as the day it was new. My other son is on an 03 that we have had zero problems with, he's only 110lbs so I think it is pretty unlikely his will break like mine.

Turner warranty for 04 is 2 years, but I think all prior years were for 1 year. I think expecting a warranty replacement on a downhill bike that is 3 years old is asking a lot. But they are good people and may workout a crash replacement or something of that type. I would be surprised if they still have any old triangles around there. I would have certainly settled for a new 03 triangle on mine. I would definately give Dave a call. Good Luck.

kidwoo · Jul 31, 2004

RiDurbin said:
stuff

I'm going to go get a turner tatoo now.

Espen · Jul 31, 2004

I had a 01. I bought it from I guy in Canada, he raced it for 6 monts, I used it for 2 seasons, now the new owner runns like mad on his first season.
He have only broke one mainpivot axle, caused by a too soft shock.

Yep, these frames holds up pretty good.

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bizutch said:
I've owned an '02, 03 and now 04 model with zero cracks. Matter of fact my '02 still shows up at races in VA & WV under the guy I sold it to who loves it. And my teammates '02 model was sold to a guy in Cali and then recently bought by friend in TN who is racing it full time now. He won Expert 25-29 at Snowshoe on it!

kidwoo · Jul 31, 2004

RiDurbin said:
My 03 cracked at the main pivot on the front triangle.

Sh!t!!!!

Mine too. I just went downstairs to check on mine and it's cracked in the same place. The last time I rode it (last weekend), it started making a creak that I couldn't fix. Guess that was it. We'll see what happens monday I guess.

RiDurbin · Jul 31, 2004

Yeah only reason I noticed mine was cause I was changing the cranks and spotted it then. Otherwise I would have most likely kept riding it until it completely sheared off.

kidwoo · Aug 1, 2004

RiDurbin said:
Yeah only reason I noticed mine was cause I was changing the cranks and spotted it then. Otherwise I would have most likely kept riding it until it completely sheared off.

Mine isn't cracked all the way through like yours but I'm sure that wouldn't be far off if I ride it again. I'm so bummed. I really really really like that frame. I am the original owner and paid full retail so maybe I'll get some good treatment. I bought it last september so I'm within a year as well. I like the fact that I can run any shock on this thing.

RiDurbin · Aug 1, 2004

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think the 03 was probably one of the best looking downhill bikes ever built. Ironically, I had just bought a Fox pro pedal shock for mine and was installing it and the cranks when I noticed the crack. Now I have a brand new shock and it won't fit my new frame. So I'm back to the Romic. I was gonna have the pro pedal PUSHed as soon as it was ready for a rebuild. Now I guess I'll put it in the classifieds.

To be honest the 04 really grows on you. It almost never looks as good in pic's as it does in person. I'm standing on the edge of saying I like the looks better then the 03. Prior to having the 04 I would not have even considered saying that, even though I had already seen several 04's at Big Bear.

I'll try and post some pic's of mine tomorrow. I think it will help you with your 03 withdrawals. I customized the stickers, most people have a love/hate relationship with the new sticker kit. The way I modified it looks really REALLY good IMHO.

Espen · Aug 1, 2004

Many good reasons to buy products from these people. This story is just one, Turnerbikes is great!

I love the looks of the 04's. Much better now, than first time I saw a proto.
I still think the 00-02 are the most beautiful frames ever made.

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DLo · Aug 1, 2004

Nick, that's awesome. Post some pics up huh? Sounds like a great set of people and an excellent company. Glad to hear that you'll have your own bike for Whistler. Have fun.

kidwoo · Aug 1, 2004

RiDurbin said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I think the 03 was probably one of the best looking downhill bikes ever built. Ironically, I had just bought a Fox pro pedal shock for mine and was installing it and the cranks when I noticed the crack. Now I have a brand new shock and it won't fit my new frame. So I'm back to the Romic. I was gonna have the pro pedal PUSHed as soon as it was ready for a rebuild. Now I guess I'll put it in the classifieds.

To be honest the 04 really grows on you. It almost never looks as good in pic's as it does in person. I'm standing on the edge of saying I like the looks better then the 03. Prior to having the 04 I would not have even considered saying that, even though I had already seen several 04's at Big Bear.

I'll try and post some pic's of mine tomorrow. I think it will help you with your 03 withdrawals. I customized the stickers, most people have a love/hate relationship with the new sticker kit. The way I modified it looks really REALLY good IMHO.

Yeah I switched to fox propedal shocks as well. You can cut off the reservoir and attatch with hoses like push does. I'm going to see how much he charges for this. I've seen pictures of how it's done and it doesn't look too daunting. I've got a tap set for threading the hose inserts.

I've got a few friends with 04 frames. The 03's are my favorite designs still. I can't get excited about a new frame without even having talked to turner yet. Right now I just have a broken, creaky bike with an uncertain future. I just broke my foot last thursday (different bike) so this actually may be a good time to have discovered it. So yeah I'm bored..........show me your sticker mod man.

Let me know if you want to sell your fox damper cheap.

Curb Hucker · Aug 1, 2004

all of this talk of breaking frames and getting new ones :think:

I think im going to go see how many curb hucks it takes to break the lambda

kidwoo · Aug 1, 2004

ViolentVolante said:
many curb hucks it takes to break the lambda

Keep us posted.

kidwoo · Aug 1, 2004

Here's the pic I'll be sending to Turner.

Just the beginnings but keep an eye out if you gots an 03.

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