You've been warned.
I am hoping beyond anything that the soldiers are punished.
For wanting a decent image in the media, they sure are friggin it all up by doing these things.
I'm going to go hug mah doggies now.
Cruel and Heartless
- Thread starter MudGrrl
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You've been warned.
I am hoping beyond anything that the soldiers are punished.
For wanting a decent image in the media, they sure are friggin it all up by doing these things.
I'm going to go hug mah doggies now.
It's safe, but pretty disgusting.
I wish Fido had gotten some soldier nutsack for a snack.
I wish Fido had gotten some soldier nutsack for a snack.
yeah....
Onward Christian soldiers...
That's pretty wise.
More soldiers doing their country proud...
I'm surprised they didn't throw rocks at it...
I'm surprised they didn't throw rocks at it...
Not watching that.
No, thats what the arab muslems do
Oh yeah, those were arab muslems [sic] dressed up like our soldiers to make us look bad....oh yeah, that explains it.
makes me hearken back to when i was a wee lad & i threw rocks at a tethered german shepherd. his name was pirate & belonged to our neighbor, this russian guy. long story short, he let pirate out one day w/o his leash (oops, musta forgot).
the rest is a blur, but i have this cool scar on my hip & i no longer abuse dogs. too bad these guys made it to adulthood & haven't learned it.
See.........that's where I get tired of this support our troops under all circumstances crap. I've said it before (paging DRB
), but a uniform does not unconditionally signify, intelligence , nobility, or command a sense of undying respect. I hope that bucktoothed dipsh!t gets his liver blown up and then has his nuts skinned off on that gum shelf protruding from his face. I can only assume there's no hottie stateside longing to kiss that mess if he returns.
edit: no offense mudgrrl, I'm taking the liberty of assuming your stance in posting this. And mostly......I know you're not a moron.
And I do believe that $tinkle was ordained republican by birth and is not there by his own choice
), but a uniform does not unconditionally signify, intelligence , nobility, or command a sense of undying respect. I hope that bucktoothed dipsh!t gets his liver blown up and then has his nuts skinned off on that gum shelf protruding from his face. I can only assume there's no hottie stateside longing to kiss that mess if he returns.edit: no offense mudgrrl, I'm taking the liberty of assuming your stance in posting this. And mostly......I know you're not a moron.
And I do believe that $tinkle was ordained republican by birth and is not there by his own choice
that really sucks.
i have no issues watching adult human males getting all blown up or ****ed up, i might even find oportunity for humor in there.... but watching a dog, or an animal, is gut wrenching.
i have no issues watching adult human males getting all blown up or ****ed up, i might even find oportunity for humor in there.... but watching a dog, or an animal, is gut wrenching.
But sometimes we refer to the terrorists as "animals." Do you feel bad for them then, you terrorist lover?
I've never met anyone who was in the military who was actually worthy of my respect. Everyone I've ever met (with the exception of like two people) has been a friggin idiot. .....and those two people confirm that most of the people in the military are friggin idiots...and videos like that one and the guys making the kids chase the truck for water....and Abu Graib....reinforces my theory....See.........that's where I get tired of this support our troops under all circumstances crap. I've said it before (paging DRB
I'm sure everyone on in the military was involved in A.G. and taunting children. It would be interesting to see how MMike reacted to very stressfull situations far away from home. I'm sure he has never done a cruel or mean thing in his live so it would most likely resemble thread where you lost 11 lbs.
Ahhh...it's the mental anguish of being far from home that makes them assholes...I see.... They WANT to be good guys...but.....their daddies just didn't love them enough....and.... doggonnit...why wouldn't he love me for me???? There's no WAY that they were the kids burning ants with magnifying glasses...
Yep. It's the stressful situation.......
Not that Im "worthy of your respect" or anything, but Id say that there are alot of friggin idiots in any occupation where the only job requirement is that you dont have a bunch of drug charges and cant tell people you're gay. In real life, I purposely dont tell people that I was in the military unless they ask because Ive found you're immediately associated with retards like those in the videos we watch all the time here. There are, and Ive met, some pretty decent folks who were in the military, but you have to consider the source of where they get people from to join. Its not like the military makes you that way.
I essnetially agree....it's like politics. The people who WANT the politcal power are generally the folks would shouldn't HAVE the political power. The people who WANT to be in the military...well... I dunno...of course they would be low-lifes even if they weren't in the military. But enlisting gives the degenerates the ultimate outlet....a weapon, authority....and some a sense of entitlment that they should be respected/feared.
And burly you have your moments when you are worthy....
...to add to what you're saying, there are lots of good young people who join, its just that they all get the hell out as soon as possible when they figure out the leadership are only people who wouldnt cut it elsewhere in the world. Those who stay actually respect these rednecks in charge, so you end up with this total stagnation of white trash, drunkenness and infidelity. It's a pretty terrible lifestyle for any kind of actual family. Divorce and domestic assault rates on the inside rival any ghetto you could imagine. Some attribute these to deployments and other stress factors, but I see it more as a symptom of personnel and leadership. Of course, I was only in the Marines, so I could see it being a bit different in the AF or Coast Guard, but probably not too much.
It's pretty much the same in the Army, and a good chunk of the reason that I got out. Compassion, respect of your opponent(soldiers on the opposite side are not automatically the enemy), and temperance are not high things they teach. That coupled with how they treat families of soldiers(I actually had to send one of my men to prison because he had to go AWOL to see his child born, long story), makes for a bad situation.
That being said, there are still a large portion of the people in the military who are doing good, who do respect their opponents, who do have compassion for those around them. The main problem with that is you don't see videos of that floating around on the net. It doesn't make for good news, it doesnt make for good propaganda, and acts of compassion are a bit harder to capture than those of hate.
that's bad, but there a a huge number of cases that happen in the US of incidents every bit as bad or WORSE committed by jack twenty somethings....
we had some goths set a couple puppies on fire here locally, and some stoners who cooked a cat in the microwave.
i'd say there are far more retards out of uniform than in.
we had some goths set a couple puppies on fire here locally, and some stoners who cooked a cat in the microwave.
i'd say there are far more retards out of uniform than in.
Due to the frequency of occurrance?
I wouldn't go that far. I've got some good friends that have served.....one of them in the first gulf war. He's a very intelligent and articulate guy who has taken it upon himself to dissuade anyone he meets from inlisting. He's 36, built like a brick poophouse and has been sterile ever since got back years ago. Another one of my good ski buddies served (thank gawd) between the bushes and left without incident and has a similar response to military life.
That said, I also grew up around Jacksonville beach near mayport, a huge navy base and seemed like at least once a year some group of morons would get arrested for gang raping a stripper or beating up some black guy.
don't forget those animal loving canucks!!!
saved for posterity.
respect is reserved for your side, not the enemy's. oh, i'm very interested to know how you define 'enemy' & how this differs from 'soldiers on the opposite side'.
Well said, that's one of the reasons I'm getting out. The only reason stuff like in the video or Abu Graib happens is leadership. I'm in charge of a fire team right now, and I put the fear of the Good Lord into my Marines if they even think about doing anything stupid. Most Marines and Soldiers in theater right now are good, they're there to do their job and get home without physical or psychological damage the best they can. If those retards messing with the dog had any decent person in charge of them they'd be sitting in a brig awaiting trial by court-martial. Crap like that embarasses me to even be in uniform.
An enemy is someone who actively opposes what I believe. A soldier on an opposing force may not oppose what I believe, and is only serving to defend his beliefs. It's the difference between "I hate you, so I am going to kill you", and "You're attacking me, so I am going to defend myself".
As for respect only reserved for your side, you could not be more wrong, and is the basis for a large portion of the crap that goes on currently. Go read up on Bushido, throw in a little Sun Tzu, watch We Were Soldiers(based upon true events).
I figured it would give them something else to play besides that 12 year old getting her ass kicked that they seem to show on a loop.
so atheists are the enemy of those who believe in a higher being (& vice-versa)? put another way, is an "unbeliever" (kuffar) an enemy of islam? this would seem to fit both your definition and that shared of muslim extremists.
you lost me on "hate", especially since military training is highly sanitized, and void of emotion or ideology. in other words, when confrontation lacks any chest-thumping "kill the hadjis/gooks" mentality, there are no enemies, just soldiers.
how would you categorize the guests at camp x-ray? soldiers or enemies?
what is respectable about bin laden, al-masri, or ahmadenijad?
Leadership??? This is what kills me though. (And I don't disagree with what you're saying, however...), taking the video as an example. Thee guys were not in the middle of big important military business at that moment. They were "just guys". What you're sort of saying is that these guys need to be TOLD to NOT be assholes... They are grownups. Shouldn't they KNOW better on their own?
The same could be said about many "just guys" living in trailer parks and housing projects across the country. The difference is that part of the reason many people join the military is to "become a man" and it takes good leaders to make dirtbags into conscious adults. When leadership fails, you get those results.
If they actively go out and try and "convert" those who dont believe like them, yes, they are enemies. But if they are atheists and let others be, then no.
No, and most muslims would side with me on this. Not being a believer in Islam does not make you an enemy of Islam. They might see you as misguided or lost, but not an enemy. If you actively oppose, through trying to convert Muslims to a "better" religion, then you become an enemy.
You've never been through military training have you. It very much is filled with emotion, and the wrong kind. They attempt to demonize the opponent, make him seem less than human, thinking that that will allow the soldier to do their job. "Kill that commie/terrorist bastard" are the mantras used to instill hatred.
A soldier does his duty. Often not because they want to, but because it is his duty. Simply because he does his duty does not make his opponent his enemy.
I would classify them as prisoners.
I don't know their motives, only they do. But I respect them for doing what they believe is right. For sacrificing to protect their way of life. For their intelligence, and the simple fact that no matter how much the media demonizes them, they are still human beings. What I do not respect is their method of targeting innocent civilians. It is one thing to kill a combatant on the field of battle, and quite a different thing to kill a civilian who is merely trying to live.
this will only be a failure of leadership if nothing comes of it.
you're a pr guy: why don't you drop a dime on these "men"?