Im sure if it's come this far, it's been seen by much of the military and some action has been taken.
Cruel and Heartless
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If you make if that long in this life and can actually throw rocks at a crippled dog and laugh when he suffers, well then, you deserve a big hug from a strapped suicide bomber.
Yeah I like to tell myself the same thing about executive privilege.
every major religion has some form of an edict to proselytize. with that, you're saying anyone outside of religion X is an enemy to religion X. this is called extremism.
to believe this, a muslim MUST dismiss inconvenient parts of their holiest scriptures:
- Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
- On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
- Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
- Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29
- O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. - 9:73
- Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123
- Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
- When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
- Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
- The unbelievers among the People of the Book [jews & christians] and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
things must've changed since i finished my 9 years back in '99, like forgoing a little thing called 'military bearing'.
i'm thinking the first week word of this got out, enlistments would have plummeted. oddly, this has yet to happen.
answer the question: how would you classify the prisoners at camp x-ray?
this response is a perfect example of post-modernism.
all i have to do is redefine "the field of battle", and make every civilian complicit in military ops.
not Judaism
and they don't believe in hell, either; this is further evidence of a blighted religion being done "on the cheap"
Wouldnt be a problem if you didnt kill jesus.
LOL!!! ftw.
US Soldier Caught At "Tickle-Torture" To Extract Intelligence!
Iraqis Grateful That Cruel American Forces Did Not Open Fire During Soccer Game!
how sad for you....
and they are going to military prison... not some federal day care center either.
So is the I "heart" something common diction in iraqi culture?
Yea, pretty good English handwriting for Iraqi 10 year olds...
you are just used to US educated children.
Was she blond and white?
I'm trying to figure out if they did anything wrong, or they're just being railroaded by liberal judges.
If you look in the back ground the soldier in the back has a bag og new soccer balls.And soccer balls that are dirty when they've been played with in the desert.
Imho There are soldiers in the military who want to do the right thing the only problem is the ones who act like 10 year-old retars and do stuff like in this video or worst and are also DUMB enough to tape themselves and posting it on a website like youtube for the world to see the stupidity of a small percentage of soldiers
Can't we assemble some sort of portfolio making it legal to exile N8 to southern Libya or something? Anything? A congressional order?
Seriously. It's sad that someone as blatantly inept and retarded as yourself is allowed to form simple thought patterns and opinions.
Seriously. It's sad that someone as blatantly inept and retarded as yourself is allowed to form simple thought patterns and opinions.
Who said he could do that?
That is soo true! Isn't a part of that demonization to use the first name of a person as well? I mean, in Sweden we adress even our prime minister after their first name, but in the US it is very much sir this and mr that, even to once own father, so how is it with political oponents?
All those quoted phrases must be put into context. Without context they will just misslead people, which was surely the purpose from the site you got these. What context will show you is that those are answers, reactions to other actions commited against the believer. The Quran is full of examples where Allah tells the believers to be tolerant with the non believers.
Jerusalem under the rule of Arabs and Ottomans was as peaceful and tolerant as it has ever been!
Here's an example of when Greyhound posted some similar stuff:
Religion of peace?
Just a few gems from the Quran:
Direct quotes from the Quran:
ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)
O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred... (8:65)
Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah...And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30)
And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)
When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them (9:5)
And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He GAVE YOU MASTERY OVER THEM (8:71)
FIGHT THEM: ALLAH WILL PUNISH THEM BY YOUR HANDS AND BRING THEM TO DISGRACE, AND ASSIST YOU AGAINST THEM. (9:14)
FIGHT THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLAH, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, NOR FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF TRUTH, OUT OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOOK [Christians and Jews], until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and THEY ARE IN A STATE OF SUBJECTION. (9:29)
O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination. (9:73)
O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). (9:123)
I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)
And that you should judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their low desires, and be cautious of them, lest they seduce you from part of what Allah has revealed to you; but if they turn back, then know that Allah desires to afflict them on account of some of their faults; and most surely many of the people are transgressors. Is it then the judgment of the times of ignorance that they desire: and who is better than Allah to judge for a people who are sure? O YOU WHO BELIEVE! DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS FOR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER; AND WHOEVER AMONGST YOU TAKES THEM FOR A FRIEND, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM; SURELY ALLAH DOES NOT GUIDE THE UNJUST PEOPLE. (5:49-51)
The punishment of those who pit themselves against Allah and His Messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, except those who repent before you have them in your power (5:33-34)
Believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god: far be it from his glory that He should have a son. (4:171)
What is the matter with you, then, that you have become two parties about the hypocrites, while Allah has made them return (to unbelief) for what they have earned? Do you wish to guide him whom Allah has caused to err? And whomsoever Allah causes to err, you shall by no means find a way for him. THEY DESIRE THAT YOU SHOULD DISBELIEVE AS THEY HAVE DISBELIEVED, SO THAT YOU MIGHT BE ALL ALIKE; THEREFORE TAKE NOT FROM AMONG THEM FRIENDS UNTIL THEY FLY THEIR HOMES IN ALLAH'S WAY; BUT IF THEY TURN BACK, THEN SEIZE THEM AND KILL THEM WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE NOT FROM AMONG THEM A FRIEND OR A HELPER. (4:89)
As for those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the punishment (4:56)
Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah - they shall have a severe punishment; and Allah is Mighty, the lord of retribution. (3:4)
Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says, None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)" (Hadith 4:52:196)
Allah's Apostles said, "When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder," 'Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, "How is faith taken away from him?" He said, Like this," by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, "But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again. (Hadith 8:82:800e[So, with the clap of a hand, they can do whatever they want?]
The Prophet said, "The one who commits an illegal sexual intercourse is not a believer at the time of committing illegal sexual intercourse and a thief is not a believer at the time of committing theft and a drinker of alcoholic drink is not a believer at the time of drinking. Yet, (the gate of) repentance is open thereafter." (Hadith 8:82:801)
(Isolated incident) ...then prostrated himself, and all who were with him prostrated too. But an old man took a handful of dust and touched his forehead with it saying, "This is sufficient for me." Later on I saw him killed as an infidel. (Hadith 5:59:311)
[yes the Jews and Muslims are both descendents of Abraham, but here is the attitude towards descendants of Abraham through Isaac (the Jews]: "If they find you, they will be your enemies, and will stretch forth towards you their hands and their tongues with evil, and they ardently desire that you may disbelieve. Your relationship would not profit you, nor your children, on the day of resurrection; He will decide between you; and Allah sees what you do. Indeed, there is for you a good example in Abraham and those with him when they said to their people: Surely we are clear of you and of what you serve besides Allah; WE DECLARE OURSELVES TO BE CLEAR OF YOU, AND ENMITY AND HATRED HAVE APPEARED BETWEEN US AND YOU FOREVER UNTIL YOU BELIEVE IN ALLAH ALONE (60:2-4)
Contrast that with what Jesus said:
"But I say to you, love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. Be merciful as your Father is merciful. This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." Jesus, SON of God
Again, Mohammad first went to the Jews as a prophet, writing of peace; was rejected. Mohammad then went to the Christians claiming to be a prophet and wrote peace; was rejected. Mohammad went back to his own people and was rejected until he (for a short time) said Allah allowed them to worship Allah's daughters. Mohammad then began to slaughter unbelievers and masterminded over 60 massacres, and the Quran changed dramatically to hate, that is why there are so many contradictions. That is also why there are so many familiar phrases and precepts between the religions. Mohammad appeared on the scene over 600 years after Jesus was resurrected, he tried to claim to be a prophet, though illiterate, he knew the scriptures of the Bible well. But "Allah" is certainly NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The characters are exactly opposite! In fact the Hebrew phonetic word Allah (aw-law) means to lament, mourn and curse. (Strong's Exhaustive Concordance #421, 422, 423)
Hate Muslims? NO! Jesus would never have advocated hating anybody! But should we insist our children "assume you are a Muslim soldier" about to conquer a nation? Should they memorize the tenants of Islam, repeat the words, pray to Allah, build Mosques, imagine they are Muslim and write what they like about it? NO!!! And at the same time, school textbooks claim that the Old Testament prophets could not tell the future (yes they could when God revealed it to them countless times!). Additionally, the textbooks actually teach that the Israelites only accepted what the prophets told them so they could explain away the disasters they went through!
"Across the Centuries" and "Message of Ancient Days" claim the religion of Islam is truth, (beliefs are given as fact) and that Judeo-Christian beliefs are false. Public schools INSIST our children learn this. WHERE ARE OUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS???
and my answer:
His quotations were a little bit longer so it was there possible to understand what they meant (if you hadn't already locked down mentaly on the words that instilled hate and fear).
His quotations were a little bit longer so it was there possible to understand what they meant (if you hadn't already locked down mentaly on the words that instilled hate and fear).
When I march in and conquer the US with the forces of Sweden, I will tickle your kids and play football with them. You, I'll probably end up having to shoot, just like your dog, because you "took to terrorism" and defended your country.US Soldier Caught At "Tickle-Torture" To Extract Intelligence!
Iraqis Grateful That Cruel American Forces Did Not Open Fire During Soccer Game!
agree that context makes all the difference; i've read your responses, & these seem to be a great contortion to refuse to accept just how different & intolerant a great part of the middle east is, in no small part due to their unwillingness to embrace the peaceful parts, & use the extremist parts to attempt to lord over others.
i think you might appreciate a 2 year compilation from various middle east media outlets, translated by MEMRItv.org (Struggle for Liberalism & Democracy in the Arab World). pay extra special attention to the secular woman's comments (if you understand arabic, otherwise the subtitles should suffice)
tangentially related bonus material:
Oh please. Peaceful moderates exist despite the scriptures not because of them. These are violent, hateful writings and you'd have to do some serious rationalisation and linguistic gymnastics to make them otherwise.
This phenomenon is not unique to Islam, but the Quran is particularly difficult to maneuver into puppy dogs and rainbows.
Your ****ing zionist link ****ed my computer and a really long answer I had written for you. And I was really tearing you apart too...
ullingmyhairlikeaspanishmatador: I'll try and answer you tomorrow again. Meanwhile watch this for the next 4minutes.
imho the worst part of the video is the end. "want me to kill it?" they've already decided that the dog must have been crippled a long time for it to have learned to run on 2 legs, and yet they're just going to shoot it anyway?? wtf?
Just to ensure balance here's an article about the violent passages in the Bible:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
(And yes, many are wildly out of context, but hey...)
I guess we should find something similar for the Torah.
Better yet we should admit that all organized religion that relies on interpretation of an ambiguous text should be outlawed.
You don't need to...you just look at the first 222 ones on the link you posted
I also feel the need to point out that a quote is by definition taken out of context...