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D bag of the year.... Tim poe

the facts......a supply specialist (E-4) who only spent a month inside the wire in a comfy chair while in Afghanistan and got sent home for an ear infection.

All 118 of his unit signed sworn statements that he never left the wire nor did he ever serve any type of combat role.


He deserves every bit of the threats and disgrace coming his way.

and by the way....his public statements are just digging his hole deeper
 

Pesqueeb

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Did Sgt. Dip**** not think that someone might follow up on those claims when he landed on the TV? What a moron. He might not have been hit by a grenade but he's clearly been anoxic at some point in his life. :rolleyes:
 

jimmydean

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Wow.

"AGT" judge Howard Stern spoke out against Poe on his radio show early in the week, but on Wednesday, tweeted, "Waiting to get the facts. If true I'm disgusted."
If you disgust Howard Stern, you have done something pretty bad.
 

$tinkle

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it would be a shame if someone had access to an army system & found this guy's personal info & posted it to 4chan

just sayin...
 

jimmydean

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I would think the Stolen Valor Act is applicable to this situation. 6 months in "pound you in the ass" prison for each offense.
 

X3pilot

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What does some douchebag politician have to do Stolen Valor act? He's just an a$$hole, much like the a$$holes who pretend or embellish their military service.
 

X3pilot

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Alvarez is another douchebag politician. A lying douchebag politician, but I repeat myself.

Walsh should leave the her alone, leave the military service out of it. True, she needs to state what her views on a wide range of subjects are, but if she wants to talk about her service, she damn well has earned the right to.
 

$tinkle

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The Court held that First Amendment free speech rights trumped integrity and honor
so how can libel/slander be illegal, but stolen valor not?

mind.
boggled.
 

dante

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so how can libel/slander be illegal, but stolen valor not?
I believe that libel/slander are illegal because it causes specific harm to the individual, whereas stolen valor does not.

Lying is either protected speech or not based on the harm that it causes: Lying to investigators hinders an investigation and therefore is illegal. Falsely yelling "fire" in a crowded theater also causes harm to the people who are trampled. Lying for financial gain robs the people who are paying you, and that includes making false claims about your product.

However the person in question didn't lie for financial gain (he'd already been elected to the board), and there weren't specific people who were "injured" and so the court deemed that protecting Constitutional Free Speech was more important. Not saying I agree with the decision, but I can at least understand the reasoning behind it.

What's interesting is that Scalia/Thomas/Alito, all supposed "Strict Constitutionalists" voted in favor of the federal government being able to upend parts of the Constitution... I guess "strict adherence to the US Constitution" only goes so far when pushing your ideological viewpoint?
 

$tinkle

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Lying for financial gain robs the people who are paying you, and that includes making false claims about your product.
right.
being awarded medals directly translates to financial compensation [at times at the expense of other seemingly less viable candidates], hence fraud.

this is why i'm confused.
What's interesting is that Scalia/Thomas/Alito, all supposed "Strict Constitutionalists" voted in favor of the federal government being able to upend parts of the Constitution... I guess "strict adherence to the US Constitution" only goes so far when pushing your ideological viewpoint?
moar confusion/bewilderment