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biggins

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May 18, 2003
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well i am going to have to quit my job. they have been cutting back hours even though we have been making a profit for 3 of the 5 months we have been open. i have gone from full time to 2 days a week. i have given this company every ounce of commitment and strength. i have put up with not enough resources to get the job done, late paychecks (sometimes by a month!!!!)and hours getting cut back.

i dont know what the hell i am gonna do now. it seems like every time i invest all my time and energy and will into a company something like this happens so i think i am just gonna stop investing time and energy into any job at all.

rant over.
 

biggins

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May 18, 2003
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Mtb_Rob_FL said:
stick it out, the tourist season is about to hit full swing.
i think i am just tremendously hurt by the whole situation.i would love to stick it out but 2 days isnt even enough to pay half of my half of the rent. I have looked at part time gigs but i think the best option is to find new full time employment or no employment at all.
 

MTB_Rob_NC

What do I have to do to get you in this car TODAY?
Nov 15, 2002
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biggins said:
i think i am just tremendously hurt by the whole situation.i would love to stick it out but 2 days isnt even enough to pay half of my half of the rent. I have looked at part time gigs but i think the best option is to find new full time employment or no employment at all.
Are they giving the time to other people? Or are they just short on Customers? Have you told them whats up? Maybe there are some part time stuff else where on the property?

That job is too sweet to give up.
 

biggins

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May 18, 2003
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Mtb_Rob_FL said:
Are they giving the time to other people? Or are they just short on Customers? Have you told them whats up? Maybe there are some part time stuff else where on the property?

That job is too sweet to give up.
the problem with that is i dont really work for Biltmore ya know? i have sent an e-mail to the head honcho asking if there is anything i can apply my time to earlier this morning.

i am just at my whits end. 2 of the guys (there are 3) that run the company have no business even trying to run a company. that is what gets me so bad.
 

Greyhound

Trail Rat
Jul 8, 2002
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Dude....that just ain't right. Is there no good kharma left in the world?

You finally found what you were meant to do, and then it gets yanked out from underneath you. That f*cking sucks, biggie. If I had the $$, I would give it to you to start your own guide service. Let me know if there's anything I can do, man.
 

luken8r

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Mar 5, 2004
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why not start your own guide thing? since you say the other dudes who run the setup dont know what theyre doing, why not tell them to screw and go on your own and do it your way?
 
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SkaredShtles said:
I think the answer is obvious.

You know what to do..............

I won't even say it.
hahaha - I knew you would say AZ. :thumb:
 

OGRipper

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Feb 3, 2004
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NORCAL is the hizzle
luken8r said:
why not start your own guide thing? since you say the other dudes who run the setup dont know what theyre doing, why not tell them to screw and go on your own and do it your way?
That's what I was thinking. If you found something you really like and are willing to put the time and energy into it, you can probably make it work yourself. If it flies, you'll never have to deal with asshats that don't recognize your talents again.
 

biggins

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May 18, 2003
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well, its not that 2 of the guys that are running the company dont know what they are doing, its just that they need to prioritize better. one of them is our director of operations but he is guiding 5-6 days a week so he does not really have the time to put into the actual director position the other i think always has his mind elsewhere so he does not get things done in a timely fashion. the actual company owner however is friggin awesome. he is more on top of his game than most business owners i have worked for.

as for hangin in there, i am doing my best.

Rob, as for customers we have been getting enough to cover payroll with a small profit margin on top of that. understandably they would rather make more money so the obvious thing to do is cut hours back. it just annoys me because most businesses dont make money in the first year at all and we have been busting our hump to make it work and it has shown operation in the black for 3 of the 5 months we have been here.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Companies are interested in making money, not giving you money. Find a way to convince them that giving you full time work will bring in more money for them, or increase their future earning potential.
 

biggins

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May 18, 2003
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Westy said:
Companies are interested in making money, not giving you money. Find a way to convince them that giving you full time work will bring in more money for them, or increase their future earning potential.
i have already begun this process. that is my thought as well. i mean i have people that are already booking full day trips in October that requesting me as their guide. i have also taken the initiative to begin designing ads for the company as well as getting press packets from magazines for advertising purposes. what more can i do? i think that is going above the scope of my position as guide/instructor. i just dont see any of those guys doing it themselves.
 

dan-o

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Jun 30, 2004
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Start you own guide service. Also offer to sub-contract for your old employer when they are over-booked. My friend runs a charter service out of MA like this and it works out great.

Starting my own company was the best thing I've ever done. Working for yourself is the only way to guarantee that your needs are taken care of.
 

biggins

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May 18, 2003
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dan-o said:
Start you own guide service. Also offer to sub-contract for your old employer when they are over-booked. My friend runs a charter service out of MA like this and it works out great.

Starting my own company was the best thing I've ever done. Working for yourself is the only way to guarantee that your needs are taken care of.

what kind of company do you own?
 

dan-o

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Jun 30, 2004
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construction: carpentry, painting etc.
My crew does the labor, I land the business and handle all logistics (materials, scheduling etc).

My charter boat friend takes overflow clients from another company as needed (striper, tuna etc) and contracted with a few summer camps to take kids out several days a week. He also sources his own customers to round out the schedule.
 

MTB_Rob_NC

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Nov 15, 2002
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Charlotte, NC
Westy said:
Companies are interested in making money, not giving you money. Find a way to convince them that giving you full time work will bring in more money for them, or increase their future earning potential.

biggins said:
i have already begun this process. that is my thought as well. i mean i have people that are already booking full day trips in October that requesting me as their guide. i have also taken the initiative to begin designing ads for the company as well as getting press packets from magazines for advertising purposes. what more can i do? i think that is going above the scope of my position as guide/instructor. i just dont see any of those guys doing it themselves.
that is good that you are taking the initiative but...

What you are doing above is basically spending money, not generating revenue (directly anyway). Maybe suggest that if they put you back on full time you will try something that will directly result in revenue. For example, standing in the main area of the Biltmore actively giving sales pitches to guests, or something along those lines. You want to come back and say, while I was out (not guiding) I booked x,y & z clients.
 

OGRipper

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2004
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NORCAL is the hizzle
biggins said:
well, its not that 2 of the guys that are running the company dont know what they are doing, its just that they need to prioritize better. one of them is our director of operations but he is guiding 5-6 days a week so he does not really have the time to put into the actual director position the other i think always has his mind elsewhere so he does not get things done in a timely fashion. the actual company owner however is friggin awesome. he is more on top of his game than most business owners i have worked for.
The Director of Ops needs to stop doing your job and start doing his own.

If you can't get the result you want from those two guys, maybe you should talk to the owner and see what he thinks. Yeah you risk pissing off those other guys by going over their head, but the alternative is quitting a job you seem to like.
 

binary visions

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Jun 13, 2002
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OGRipper said:
If you can't get the result you want from those two guys, maybe you should talk to the owner and see what he thinks. Yeah you risk pissing off those other guys by going over their head, but the alternative is quitting a job you seem to like.
You should only do this as an absolute last resort, and after you have explored all other options.

My old boss referred to this kind of action as a CLM - career limiting move. Your boss and the director of ops (are they one and the same?) will likely hate you for it.
 

biggins

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May 18, 2003
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yes i did it. i have made my resignation for Oct. 10. i will be in an on call position (to retain pro deals and make a lil extra money)and have a very good job prospect as of current.
 

SkaredShtles

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Sep 21, 2003
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biggins said:
yes i did it. i have made my resignation for Oct. 10. i will be in an on call position (to retain pro deals and make a lil extra money)and have a very good job prospect as of current.
Does it have to do with slinging beer in Flagstaff?
 

narlus

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Nov 7, 2001
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behind the viewfinder
flagstaff is like xanadu, valhalla, and atlantis all wrapped into one.

a magical, mystical place.
















never to be contaminated by the presence of biggins. :D
 

biggins

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May 18, 2003
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narlus said:
flagstaff is like xanadu, valhalla, and atlantis all wrapped into one.

a magical, mystical place.
















never to be contaminated by the presence of biggins. :D
flag could only be enlightened by my presence.
 

MTB_Rob_NC

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Nov 15, 2002
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Charlotte, NC
biggins said:
yes i did it. i have made my resignation for Oct. 10. i will be in an on call position (to retain pro deals and make a lil extra money)and have a very good job prospect as of current.

Any news?