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Damn, the news is pissin me off.

mack

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Feb 26, 2003
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How can a man who compares terrorists to the USA's founding fathers be allowed to live? Mike moore's movie is propaganda, hes a communist, who believes in nothing but killing US troops so we good ol boys can learn our lesson. Has any one seen his movie?

Well dont, cus if you like clips taken out of context then this is your ticket. Liberals, watch this movie so you can feel better about your twisted Liberal commie views.

And whats up with this prison crap. Who cares if a handfull of guys were stripped naked and video taped by a few hill billies! this stuff hapens EVERY day in US prisons. So why cover it in Iraq when your not covering it in the US?

Shouldnt the media be more concern on facts and not the "national enquire" method. Yeah, that order to interrorgate prisoners naked came right from the top. "YES! its true, my editor said so!" The press should be more concentrated on important stuff, and not stuff that will be used as a Bush weapon. Why havent there been more stories on the beheadings, and US citizens being killed. Aparently all congress can talk of is the prison scandal, there hasnt been one democratic congress man who has talked about the be headings yet. So far the news goes like this...

"Today a south korean translator was beheaded by Al Zarqawi (sp?). The body has not been found. Onto more coprofagus matters, The US tortures innocent bystanders who were on a jail tourism promotion tripSIZE]

come on its not like these guys were good people. THEY WERE IN JAIL FOR A REASON, remember? It seems as this fact has been forgoten, these guys were bad people. So who gives a rats ass if they were playing twister naked?
Its better than the Saudi Method of decapitation, isnt it CNN?
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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i am quite certain that the founding fathers WERE terrorists in the eyes of the british. what makes you think that they were not considered as such?
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
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How can a man who compares terrorists to the USA's founding fathers be allowed to live? Mike moore's movie is propaganda, hes a communist, who believes in nothing but killing US troops so we good ol boys can learn our lesson. Has any one seen his movie?

Well, I'd hardly call Mr. Moore a communist. I don't recall him ever espousing that particular economic philosophy, but even if he had, I wouldn't be ready to kill him.

We usually don't kill people in this country for speech, so that's out. I also find it hard to believe that he's a nihilist who believes in only killing US troops. That would contradict your communist assertion, by the way.

Haven't seen the movie yet, it's not out in theatres until Friday, I thought.

Well dont, cus if you like clips taken out of context then this is your ticket. Liberals, watch this movie so you can feel better about your twisted Liberal commie views.

Now, that's just plain simplistic. Liberal doesn't equal communist, by the way. You're confusing social and economic philosophy again. A liberal can be a communist, true, but by no means is it necessary.

And whats up with this prison crap. Who cares if a handfull of guys were stripped naked and video taped by a few hill billies! this stuff hapens EVERY day in US prisons. So why cover it in Iraq when your not covering it in the US?

It's wrong when it happens here too. It's wrong when it happens in Iraq. More so since we told them we were coming to bring freedom and peace. Doubly so since we decided to do it in one of Saddam's more infamous prisons. Let's say it again-sexual assault is wrong. So the fact that it happens in prison here doesn't make it ok to do elsewhere.

Shouldnt the media be more concern on facts and not the "national enquire" method. Yeah, that order to interrorgate prisoners naked came right from the top. "YES! its true, my editor said so!" The press should be more concentrated on important stuff, and not stuff that will be used as a Bush weapon. Why havent there been more stories on the beheadings, and US citizens being killed. Aparently all congress can talk of is the prison scandal, there hasnt been one democratic congress man who has talked about the be headings yet. So far the news goes like this...

To a certain extent I agree with you about the press. However, since Bush won't talk about anything unless it is behind closed doors and Cheney is there, and the Attorney General won't even talk to Congress, I'd say it's understandable.

Congress is talking about the prison scandal perhaps because some people expect more from a nation that lays claim to being the preeminent democracy on Earth than they do from a group of religious terrorists.

come on its not like these guys were good people. THEY WERE IN JAIL FOR A REASON, remember? It seems as this fact has been forgoten, these guys were bad people. So who gives a rats ass if they were playing twister naked?
Its better than the Saudi Method of decapitation, isnt it CNN?


Oh really? They all got a fair trial? I must have missed that part. Once again, I expect better from the US than I do from a despotic totalitarian regime. Maybe I'm an idealist, I don't know.
 

Slugman

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Apr 29, 2004
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mack said:
"Today a south korean translator was beheaded by Al Zarqawi (sp?). The body has not been found. Onto more coprofagus matters, The US tortures innocent bystanders who were on a jail tourism promotion tripSIZE]

come on its not like these guys were good people. THEY WERE IN JAIL FOR A REASON, remember? It seems as this fact has been forgoten, these guys were bad people. So who gives a rats ass if they were playing twister naked?
Its better than the Saudi Method of decapitation, isnt it CNN?


First off, the South Korean who was kidnapped this past week was the biggest story lately. In fact I have not her Sh*t about Abu blah blah recently. It has maybe been a side not in other articles, but it's not front page news. And - they found the guys decapitated body the same day as the release of the photos, and it was rigged with a bomb to kill the soldier who would find it.

The people in the prison were suspected former allies with Saddam. A lot of them were picked up when they were dressed in civilian clothing. Does that exonerate them - NO... but just to say that since they were in jail its OK is F'ed up mentality. The US is supposed to be there to free the people, not act like the dictator that we claimed was pure evil.

If you are going to discuss political matters you might want to get your facts right first, and not use inflammatory rhetoric. Your ‘communist’ comments are straight out of the 50’s and make you seem like a F’ing moron.
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
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You're a communist

Slugman said:
First off, the South Korean who was kidnapped this past week was the biggest story lately. In fact I have not her Sh*t about Abu blah blah recently. It has maybe been a side not in other articles, but it's not front page news. And - they found the guys decapitated body the same day as the release of the photos, and it was rigged with a bomb to kill the soldier who would find it.

The people in the prison were suspected former allies with Saddam. A lot of them were picked up when they were dressed in civilian clothing. Does that exonerate them - NO... but just to say that since they were in jail its OK is F'ed up mentality. The US is supposed to be there to free the people, not act like the dictator that we claimed was pure evil.

If you are going to discuss political matters you might want to get your facts right first, and not use inflammatory rhetoric. Your ‘communist’ comments are straight out of the 50’s and make you seem like a F’ing moron.
 

mack

Turbo Monkey
Feb 26, 2003
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Colorado
ok. I still think the news is entirely focused on the wrong issues.
You say that a bunch of guys who were sexually abused by a few prison guards is the whole fault of the USA. Blame the prison guards, not the rest of the country. I like the term communist, Moore is certantly one. He is in favor for taking 70% of a wealthy persons income. 70 percent people!!! i personly believe that taxes create NOTHING, sure the government needs to tax you so they can run, but other than that these civil programs bring in nothing, especially the lottery, they make no new buisness and create no jobs AT ALL, they only get votes.

And where is social security in the constitution? This is america, people are poor (mostly, with exception of age or physical traits) because they are lazy and relly on a pay check from other peoples money. People need to be responsable for their own actions. God, go to school and get a frigin job.

Moore is in favor for a health care system like Canada's. Sure i need a operation, but too bad ill have to wait 3 months to get it. And lets hope Hillary isnt going to get elected, then were in reall trouble. Remember her healthcare plan any one?
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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mack said:
ok. I still think the news is entirely focused on the wrong issues.
You say that a bunch of guys who were sexually abused by a few prison guards is the whole fault of the USA. Blame the prison guards, not the rest of the country. I like the term communist, Moore is certantly one. He is in favor for taking 70% of a wealthy persons income. 70 percent people!!! i personly believe that taxes create NOTHING, sure the government needs to tax you so they can run, but other than that these civil programs bring in nothing, especially the lottery, they make no new buisness and create no jobs AT ALL, they only get votes.

And where is social security in the constitution? This is america, people are poor (mostly, with exception of age or physical traits) because they are lazy and relly on a pay check from other peoples money. People need to be responsable for their own actions. God, go to school and get a frigin job.

Moore is in favor for a health care system like Canada's. Sure i need a operation, but too bad ill have to wait 3 months to get it. And lets hope Hillary isnt going to get elected, then were in reall trouble. Remember her healthcare plan any one?
I appreciate your passion for politics, but...
1. you're all over the place... focus.
2. Your extreme responses will polarize people and are frankly, flawed.
3. The constitution is a living document, not the Old Testament.
4. Do you even ride a bike? ;)
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
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All I can say is: "wow"

mack said:
ok. I still think the news is entirely focused on the wrong issues.
You say that a bunch of guys who were sexually abused by a few prison guards is the whole fault of the USA. Blame the prison guards, not the rest of the country. I like the term communist, Moore is certantly one. He is in favor for taking 70% of a wealthy persons income. 70 percent people!!! i personly believe that taxes create NOTHING, sure the government needs to tax you so they can run, but other than that these civil programs bring in nothing, especially the lottery, they make no new buisness and create no jobs AT ALL, they only get votes.

And where is social security in the constitution? This is america, people are poor (mostly, with exception of age or physical traits) because they are lazy and relly on a pay check from other peoples money. People need to be responsable for their own actions. God, go to school and get a frigin job.

Moore is in favor for a health care system like Canada's. Sure i need a operation, but too bad ill have to wait 3 months to get it. And lets hope Hillary isnt going to get elected, then were in reall trouble. Remember her healthcare plan any one?
 

Silver

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Jul 20, 2002
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mack said:
I like the term communist, Moore is certantly one. He is in favor for taking 70% of a wealthy persons income. 70 percent people!!!
To quote the guy from the Princess Bride: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

People are poor because they are lazy. If you haven't started a Young Republican's club at your school, you should get going on that right away...
 

mack

Turbo Monkey
Feb 26, 2003
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Colorado
yeah, then why ARE people poor? Poor people dont pay any taxes, so what is keeping them poor? Education? it is free. Race? no, this inst the 50's. I think its role models and pop culture mainly, i agree entirely with bill cosby.

and i cant believe some one on this forum watched the princess bride. :stosh:
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
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mack said:
yeah, then why ARE people poor? Poor people dont pay any taxes, so what is keeping them poor? Education? it is free. Race? no, this inst the 50's. I think its role models and pop culture mainly, i agree entirely with bill cosby.

and i cant believe some one on this forum watched the princess bride. :stosh:
Well, it depends. There are lots of reasons why people are poor. There are social factors, economic factors, luck, and sometimes even a few of them are lazy. You're asking a very complicated question and expecting a simple and concise answer. Like I said, start up a Young Republicans club.

You think poor people don't pay taxes? What fairytale land are you living in? You don't pay federal income taxes if your income is low enough. I believe the Wall Street journal called those people "lucky duckies." I wasn't aware that poor people didn't pay payroll and sales taxes though. News to me.
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
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mack said:
and i cant believe some one on this forum watched the princess bride. :stosh:

Ah. Ok...everything is clear now. If someone thinks that one of the greatest movies of all time is unwatchable, then that someone is intellectually defective.

"Let me esplain. No. There is too much. I will sum up. Buttercupismarryhumperdinkinlittlelessthanhalfanhour"
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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MMike said:
Ah. Ok...everything is clear now. If someone thinks that one of the greatest movies of all time is unwatchable, then that someone is intellectually defective.
:stupid:

and Mack, I'll never forget you making me be in agreeance with mmike :mad: :D
 

ghostrider

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Jan 6, 2003
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Every time I try to open my mind to a conservative perspective, I see a post like mack's, and I scurry quickly back to my normal hiding place behind a liberal facade.
 

Tenchiro

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Jul 19, 2002
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I agree personally the homeless should be recycled and fed to the poor. Michael Moore should be shot and Bush should be declared Emporer for life!
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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Tenchiro said:
I agree personally the homeless should be recycled and fed to the poor. Michael Moore should be shot and Bush should be declared Emporer for life!

Actually Michale Moore should be fed to the poor... otherwise that's not a bad plan...
 

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
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MMike said:
Or "the rolled up in a carpet and tossed in the river" program?

Sorry....Godfather 2 was on TV last night.... I kid because I love...
Yeah that's the code name for the program in the adminstration ;)
 

Tenchiro

Attention K Mart Shoppers
Jul 19, 2002
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Silver said:
Except that the poor tend to be gluttons. Comes from those massive welfare checks that they get.

You should see the yacht my section 8 living welfare whore of a neighbor bought to sail to the south seas... :angry:
 

Silver

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MMike said:
We could have them fight to the death for our amusement...the winner gets to feast on Michael Moore.
They wouldn't go for that, they are too lazy, remember.

Maybe the Department of Homeland Security could roast Michael Moore over an open fire, and put pieces of him on skewers and deliver him to the poor. Then they might go for it.
 

mack

Turbo Monkey
Feb 26, 2003
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poor people are lazy. the only poor people i can see who arent lazy are the bums who collect tin cans and illegal imagrants who work their ass off in californias vineyards. Other wise the majority of poor people are obesse and thus we can assume lazy to work or show initiative to work.

if your 500lbs why work when you can sit on ur ass, watch soaps, and get a federal pay check?
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
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fluff said:
Isn't there a moron forum we can move this to?

Or a communist website?
I think this thread is a beautiful thing. It has brought republicans and liberals together...and everyone is in "agreeance" (sic) for a change. ...well except for mack of course.....
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
40,223
9,112
mack said:
poor people are lazy. the only poor people i can see who arent lazy are the bums who collect tin cans and illegal imagrants who work their ass off in californias vineyards. Other wise the majority of poor people are obesse and thus we can assume lazy to work or show initiative to work.

if your 500lbs why work when you can sit on ur ass, watch soaps, and get a federal pay check?
are you against unemployment benefits too?
 

Tenchiro

Attention K Mart Shoppers
Jul 19, 2002
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mack said:
work when you can sit on ur ass, watch soaps, and get a federal pay check?

Damn you're right, I never thought of it that way...

Dr. Nick: "Hi everybody!"
Homer and Bart: "Hi Dr. Nick!"
Dr. Nick: "Now there are many options available for dangerously underweighted individuals like yourself. I recommend a slow steady gorging process combined with assal horizontology."
Homer: "Of course."
Dr. Nick: "You'll want to focus on the neglected food groups such as the whipped group, the congealed group and the chocotastic!"
Homer: "What can I do to speed the whole thing up, Doctor?"
Dr. Nick: "Well...be creative. Instead of making sandwiches with bread, use poptarts. Instead of chewing gum, chew bacon, ..."
Bart: "You could brush your teeth with milkshakes!"
Dr. Nick: "Hey, did you go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College too? And remember, if you're not sure about something, rub it against a piece of paper. If the paper turns clear, it's your window to weight gain. Bye bye, everybody!"