this isn't who its really intended for. Its more for the xc weight weenies still using 9mmqr that think 20mm is overkill / too heavy.
So the axle to crown will likely be 570-575mm. I could barely get the front end low enough on a 29'r with a 530mm A to C. Not a problem for you sasquatch guys, but an issue for normal sized folks.
Yeah, figures. I wonder what the xc weenies are doing with a 150mm fork. Oh, to do do drops & stuff.
Thanks! Super good way to put both bikes into perspective. Still wondering how they squeezed such a short chainstay without *ucking up the geo and still keeping the wagon wheels
WORD!!!!! I cannot imagine how tall a 29er with a 160mm fork feels unless you run like what.....60% sag? ha! or if you make a 1" tall headtube
Just run drop bars.WORD!!!!! I cannot imagine how tall a 29er with a 160mm fork feels unless you run like what.....60% sag? ha! or if you make a 1" tall headtube
disagree, while I get why people like the larger wheel size, I dislike it for a lot of the same reasons, mostly I find its just pedal fast and roll over things instead of finesse and technique, yes, personal preference, that's alright but there is a large segment of the riding public that just aren't that into 29ers.
Feels like a DH bike with the seat up high. Definitely a shock coming right off a 26-inch bike, but you get used to it quick.WORD!!!!! I cannot imagine how tall a 29er with a 160mm fork feels unless you run like what.....60% sag? ha! or if you make a 1" tall headtube
true, but then why 650b? In my opinion, 650b is the answer to the question of why 29ers handle like balls. If you can get a 29er that doesn't handle like a truck, then it's a lot easier to make a choice of 29 or 26. If you're one of those riders that "needs" finesse, and can't find any enjoyment out of a bike that rolls a little better, than you're probably not going to gravitate towards 650b either. I view 650b as 29ers for people who don't like bikes that handle like ****.
or its just marketing based bs
or for those of us who are height challenged but still want to realize some of the benefits of larger wheels without having to worry about toe overlap. I've never ridden a 29'er, would really like to ride a 650b, though. although, with the high volume Butcher tires i have currently, i'm not sure how much 650b tires would add to rolling over things.
The other day I met up with a buddy on the trail who had a new 650b bike with normal 2.2 tires. I had a high volume front tire on my bike and our front wheels were the exact same size. I will admit though that that tire does motor over things better than a smaller tire and its rather obvious.
Your CG is still going to be less advantageous. People looking for low bikes or bikes with lower CGs - 29ers would be for people desiring high CG as your body plays a much bigger role. That isn't desirable - physics always win over marketing.
I think the bike is both, marketing nonsense as well as regional based.
how often do you take your DH bike and go climb steep mountains for hours? Try it and let me know how it feels...
Haha. I'll just put 'er in 120mm mode for now
Ok, I have a problem with this argument. If you have the same erd with a 2.2 tire, what happens when you put the high volume tire on the 650b?
Maybe not great for technical trail section but nice a stable when going fast. I personally like more stability on the bike when it goes fast.
Technology.
I forgot about the height issue. I just had a discussion about that elsewhere. It's still my opinion that 29ers are stupid for short folks, but some short folks are going to want better rollover too. 650b is perfect for that. I also don't think most manufacturers will be able to match specialized's short rear end, and will therefore continue to make the move to 650b. Specialized is fighting a losing battle here, as I'm willing to bet most of "the industry" is moving towards 650b, and 29" will all but be abandoned for hardcore use in a few years. I'd love one of these bikes, but if spec are the only people making aggressive 29ers, it doesn't matter.
but what about the flickability?!1
Rubs fork bridge and/or seat post
Its not an argument. Just a fact. I don't care what size wheels other people run. I have some big and tall fast friends that crush souls on 29ers. But to answer your question, you would have a bigger around wheel and tire. And I guess you could call it technology, or you could call it a bunch of money leaving your pocket because you need a new frame, fork, wheels and tires to make it happen. But I guess if you are buying all that stuff anyway and you are convinced that this size is the "just right" Goldilocks size for you, then have at it. Make it rain in your LBS. They need it, road bike sales are down for some reason........
choose your fork wisely...the current Enduro 29er Comp comes with a float, so you don't have that option.Haha. I'll just put 'er in 120mm mode for now
Yeah and it binds like a bitch too, plus I ripped my brake cable on my EVO stumpy c, great bikes let down terribly by cable routing, puts me off ever owning a Specialised ever again, why they havent learnt from the Demo 8s cable routing to me is unforgiveable on the price they ask for these bikes.They have the internal chainstay routing on the Stumpjumper but I guess they didn't make any changes from the 26 Enduro - its still external. It has more circuitous path than Giant's
Stumpjumper has it:
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