[fluff]

Just testing my logic.

In order for Saddam to be a threat to the security of the US and the UK he had to have the means (WMD) and the intent.

As he did not use WMD when attacked then either he had none or had no intention of using them.

So, he either had intent but no weapons or weapons but no intent. So he was no threat.

But he was an evil bastard to that's OK

 

[syadasti]

He also had no means to deliver them to the US. The only country Westerners would care about that he could reach was Israel...

 

[LordOpie]

your logic has all the benefits of 20/20 hindsight.

 

[fluff]

your logic has all the benefits of 20/20 hindsight.

Absolutely.

However it also demolishes any arguments that might come up should any WMD be found that will justify the decision on an 'he was a threat after all' basis.

 

[syadasti]

Actually it isn't 20/20 - before the war people were asking why we didn't go after real known threats like North Korea or the dozens of other countries (including Israel) that violate dozens UN rules...

 

[LordOpie]

fluff thinks he's clever however, most people should've known at the time that WMDs were just an excuse to invade.

NK, Israel, etc aren't a threat to the US nor did we attack Iraq for UN violations... that too was jsut an excuse. Y'all know this, so where's the problem?

 

[syadasti]

The only problem is the current administration

 

[fluff]

fluff thinks he's clever however, most people should've known at the time that WMDs were just an excuse to invade.

NK, Israel, etc aren't a threat to the US nor did we attack Iraq for UN violations... that too was jsut an excuse. Y'all know this, so where's the problem?

Dude, I know I'm clever. I passed the tests to prove it!

I am glad to see we are in agreeance that Bush and Blair lied to us though.

 

[LordOpie]

I am glad to see we are in agreeance that Bush and Blair lied to us though.

aww, you were so close, but then ya pulled that crap out of your ass.

Ebay-rating C----, delivery was slow and damaged.

 

[Silver]

fluff thinks he's clever however, most people should've known at the time that WMDs were just an excuse to invade.

NK, Israel, etc aren't a threat to the US nor did we attack Iraq for UN violations... that too was jsut an excuse. Y'all know this, so where's the problem?

Wait, I'm confused.

You're claiming the president looked us right in the eye, and lied to the American people to get them to support a war that wasn't necessary, and we should have assumed that he was doing it?

Dude, you're more cynical than I am...

 

[LordOpie]

okay, quit with this, "I said/claimed he lied to us" stuff or I'll call N8 into this thread to really annoy y'all!

 

[Changleen]

So Opie, you DON'T think Bush and Blair lied?

What do you call what they did then?