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Demo 8???

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Turbo Monkey
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I know, but I wanted to bring it down to 38 or 39. It would take a lot of money to get it there.
 

DHS

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Apr 23, 2002
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hucker13 said:
I know, but I wanted to bring it down to 38 or 39. It would take a lot of money to get it there.
yea put XC/road parts on your dh bike. i don't think any of the pros ride with it that low. the frame itself weighs too much in the first place
 

tmmccree

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Sep 20, 2004
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If it helps at all my Demo8 medium frame only with steel spring (450lbs) weighs:

5800g

Thats approx 12 pounds.

That was literally frame only. No headset cups, no bottom bracket, no seatpost.
 

whoopnar

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Sep 11, 2004
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That 44 lbs weight is with Specialized's huge tires on it. You can put some smaller tires on it with XC tubes and that will bring the weight down some. Put some carbon bars, spacers etc on it will help some as well.
 

whoopnar

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Sep 11, 2004
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If you are using for freeride than dont, but for DH you might. My main point is that there are so many ways to lighten the bike.
 

Zutroy

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Dec 9, 2004
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DHS said:
yea put XC/road parts on your dh bike. i don't think any of the pros ride with it that low. the frame itself weighs too much in the first place

EC told me at the last Fontana race they were going for 38 with his DH bike not using any "stupid light xc" stuff.
 

Zutroy

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Dec 9, 2004
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snoopz666 said:
if you get good carbon bars you will break way before they do

Yeah according to Easton the new EC70 DH bars are way stronger than there EA-70 DH bars. The bigbest thing with Carbon Bars is you need to just inspect them from Damage.
 

me89

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May 25, 2004
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You can put some smaller tires on it with XC tubes and that will bring the weight down some. Put some carbon bars, spacers etc on it will help some as well.
then why in the world would you get a demo 8 if you were going to put crap like that on it. seriously if your going to put stuff like that on a demo 8 then dont even get it. suffer on the uphills and rip the downhills that is why you get it. and the only pro's bike that is sub 40 is minnars honda and thats only rummored. so a mid 40 lb bike isnt a bad thing except for uphills. and if you go with those componets you will be breaking **** all the time so suck it up and ride it as is. thats my opinion
if you get good carbon bars you will break way before they do
uhhhhhhhh no. i bet i could break a set with 1 big crash on a dh run. or going off a huck. bad idea to use carbon on freeride and dh bars unless you want to replace them after every crash. only pros have that kinda money. stay away from them is my suggestion
 

konabiker

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Jun 30, 2004
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me89 said:
then why in the world would you get a demo 8 if you were going to put crap like that on it. seriously if your going to put stuff like that on a demo 8 then dont even get it. suffer on the uphills and rip the downhills that is why you get it. and the only pro's bike that is sub 40 is minnars honda and thats only rummored. so a mid 40 lb bike isnt a bad thing except for uphills. and if you go with those componets you will be breaking **** all the time so suck it up and ride it as is. thats my opinion


uhhhhhhhh no. i bet i could break a set with 1 big crash on a dh run. or going off a huck. bad idea to use carbon on freeride and dh bars unless you want to replace them after every crash. only pros have that kinda money. stay away from them is my suggestion
so much misinformation...
 

rpk1988

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Dec 6, 2004
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But you know some guy will prob tighten it down too tight, then he will go hucking and it will just snap from under him when all that force comes down on the bars. For now, I'll stick to aluminum.
 

toodles

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Aug 24, 2004
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me89 said:
then why in the world would you get a demo 8 if you were going to put crap like that on it. seriously if your going to put stuff like that on a demo 8 then dont even get it. suffer on the uphills and rip the downhills that is why you get it. and the only pro's bike that is sub 40 is minnars honda and thats only rummored. so a mid 40 lb bike isnt a bad thing except for uphills. and if you go with those componets you will be breaking **** all the time so suck it up and ride it as is. thats my opinion


uhhhhhhhh no. i bet i could break a set with 1 big crash on a dh run. or going off a huck. bad idea to use carbon on freeride and dh bars unless you want to replace them after every crash. only pros have that kinda money. stay away from them is my suggestion
So wrong. Peat's bike weighed 35lbs. Many pros have bikes below 40lbs.

Sam Hill ran carbon bars all last year with no probs. Carbon isn't incredibly tough and is weakened through gouges but is much stronger than most alloy bars.
 

whoopnar

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Sep 11, 2004
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Regarding the carbon bars....Easton's process of forming the bars makes it one of the strongest bars on the market. Even stronger than some aluminum. The have numerous layers that cross each other. even if the bar receives a gouge, it will be ok. On the other hand, carbon has been known to give way unknowningly.

And yes, a lot of pros bikes weigh around 40 lbs or less. That is because many of their bikes are custom made, and numerous weight saving measures, like drilling their MRP's and more.
 

The Kadvang

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Apr 13, 2004
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me89 said:
then why in the world would you get a demo 8 if you were going to put crap like that on it. seriously if your going to put stuff like that on a demo 8 then dont even get it. suffer on the uphills and rip the downhills that is why you get it. and the only pro's bike that is sub 40 is minnars honda and thats only rummored. so a mid 40 lb bike isnt a bad thing except for uphills. and if you go with those componets you will be breaking **** all the time so suck it up and ride it as is. thats my opinion


uhhhhhhhh no. i bet i could break a set with 1 big crash on a dh run. or going off a huck. bad idea to use carbon on freeride and dh bars unless you want to replace them after every crash. only pros have that kinda money. stay away from them is my suggestion
Wow. You are really an idiot, and this isn't the first post I've seen like this...
 

me89

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May 25, 2004
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that was just an opinion guys geese im sorry that i just dont trust carbon. and i guess i was mis informed about the weight of dh bikes. so im sorry. and i still dont see the point of buying a dh or freeride bike and putting xc parts on it. to me it kinda deffets the purpose.
 

Zutroy

Turbo Monkey
Dec 9, 2004
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hucker13 said:
The only things I ever break are rear derailuers and hub axles.

I hear ya there...i toasted a RD at the last fontucky race and i have no idea what i did.

Yeah it always amazing me how people bag on carbon, i have a friend and work that goes off about it all the time. I've busted more Al bars and Carbon in my time.

I mean come on...lots of things that deal with high force loads than a DH bike use it....find a high end racecar on the planet that doens't CF in it. Most of the new high performance wings on fighter aircraft are CF, build it right and it will last.
 

Zutroy

Turbo Monkey
Dec 9, 2004
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me89 said:
that was just an opinion guys geese im sorry that i just dont trust carbon. and i guess i was mis informed about the weight of dh bikes. so im sorry. and i still dont see the point of buying a dh or freeride bike and putting xc parts on it. to me it kinda deffets the purpose.

I don't think it defeats the purpose, if going fast is you thing, then dropping weigh helps. You can do some stupid things, but things like using a road cass, or a lightweight seat don't effect the durability and they can drop some serious weight when you add it all up.
 

KleinMp99

Monkey
Nov 5, 2001
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What a bunch of dumb posts. First of all, the tires that specialized aggro bikes come with are extremely light. The 2.6's that came on my demo 9 were increadibly light, they had almost no sidewall. The demo 8 comes with 2.4's, which are even lighter. Yes, they usually come with a thicker DH tube, so you could throw a thinner tube in there to save a little weight.

I am more of an aluminum handlebar guy. I cracked a xc carbon bar by tightening shifters too tight which was just a waste of $100. I woulden't buy an extremely expensive carbon downhill bar if it's not going to do anything more than look more bling bling than an aluminum bar. Mainly I woulden't buy one because of the price. But who really cares.....if people want to put stylo's on their downhill bike, then let them. It's their bike, and they can do whatever they want to it.
 

TheInedibleHulk

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May 26, 2004
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:stupid:

The specialized tires arent super heavy, but they do suck. And for the retard that said minnar was the only one with a bike under 40, you should never speak again. Half the people I know ride sub forty bikes, pros and otherwise. Getting a DH bike under 40 isnt too difficult, even starting with a frame thast not on the light side. My Giant would have been sub 40 with tubeless, and it was otherwise almost stock. The Giant has a 12.5 pound frame. With an orange or other light frame, its a piece of cake.
 

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Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2004
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For me, a light bike is a priority. At 120 pounds, I just can't muscle around a 45 pound bike. And who cares about carbon/aluminum bars? Ride whatever you want. BTW, I personally like a road cassette for tighter spacing and better shifting under heavy load, especially while full on sprinting. They don't wear out super-quickly either. They're built to withstand thousands of miles of hard use.
 

KleinMp99

Monkey
Nov 5, 2001
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At 120 pounds I wouldn't get anything bigger than a sx trail. You are tiny, almost like girl tiny. I am 185 and I chose an sx for this season. I think an sx would hold up in any condition for you.
 

me89

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May 25, 2004
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okay so i was mistakin about the weight thing i already admited this just give it a rest i made a mistake apologized for giving false info and have corrected it in the memory bank.

I cracked a xc carbon bar by tightening shifters too tight which was just a waste of $100. I woulden't buy an extremely expensive carbon downhill bar if it's not going to do anything more than look more bling bling than an aluminum bar.
see im not the only one i just said it in a bad condiscending manner. this can very well happen if you get a little over zelous with the allen wrench or even in a hard impact like lets say to a tree. you cant sit there and tell me that you have never cliped a tree and flown off the trail and ramed into another with your handlebars. so just my 2cents again. ohh and im still talking.
 

TheInedibleHulk

Turbo Monkey
May 26, 2004
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KleinMp99 said:
At 120 pounds I wouldn't get anything bigger than a sx trail. You are tiny, almost like girl tiny. I am 185 and I chose an sx for this season. I think an sx would hold up in any condition for you.
Im not sure I would go that far, but I would look for something as light as possible. Maybe an orange built up really light or a bullet or something like that. The SX is sweet, but for dh racing its not slack enough.
 

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Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2004
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I want an SX. I raced a season on the 2003 Enduro and liked it, but wanted somethingh beefier. I work at a Specialized shop, so I can't ride an Orange.