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  1. Kntr

    Kntr Turbo Monkey

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    We are going to build a hitch/upright 4, 5, and 6 bike rack. We want something like a Rat Rack, or Arbutus Rack. A rack that holds the bikes by the tire.

    I don't want a North Shore rack or a rack that holds the bike like the North Shore rack.

    Any ideas?
    Pics of what you have built?
     
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    I've made 5 of them....just made my 2ndt tilt style....ill try to up load my pics...
     
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    Well I can't seem to upload pics fromy phone.....air hose makes a good prong padding..and support straps from crossbar to top of car helps alot...I also have a tighting system on the receiver to reduce sway...and although it will fit most vehicles it is good to custom build it for a particular vehicle... text me and I'll send some pics 423 635 4627
     
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    There is a North Shore 4 or 6 in Idaho for $350 on craigslist.

    There I built you a rack from ether...
     
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    I've used the NS rack for 3 days in Bellingham and not all bikes fit. It scratched my Lyrik on my AM bike. The mounts needed to be 2" wider apart because the pedals hit.
     
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    Thanks, but I want the rack to hold the bikes by the tire.

    This is exactly what I m talking about.

     
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    If I were going to build one, I'd just buy a cheap rack like this:

    http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Bike-Racks/Pro-Series/63124.html

    Then have a welder fabricate the top 'wheel wells' and lower tire cradles. Shouldn't be a hard project.
     
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    Different kind of bikes, but you get the idea:

     
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    This is great idea. Anyone ever built one like this?
     
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    I once had a rack like that and hated it...Major pain in the ass ! Even with the hinge system, it's very difficult to access the back of the truck as the rack sits right in the middle of the way...Sure, you can access it from the side but if you are to load long boards or stuff that require a more direct entry, the rack become a real pita.Plus , you have to watch for clearance in underground parking lot and you might also have trouble with some bikes and brake levers rubbing on the bike next to it.

    That said, if you rarely need to get in there it wouldn't be so bad, I carry all my work gear in the truck and got rid of that rack quickly as it wasnt very practical for me...
     
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    Kntr Turbo Monkey

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    We are going to build a few racks if anyone is interested.
     
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    This was a setup wasn't it? You're secretly spamming. :D
     
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    No spam. We are going to build a couple and I thought if anyone wanted one...
     
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    Want? yes. Afford. nooooo
     
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    More so the damned shipping!!

    I still can't figure out what I want to do. I used to like the over the bed rack I had on my superduty, but the fuel mileage just blows on my new truck that way.

    I don't mind using the bed....but then the bedsides take a beating with people reaching in and over the bedsides to get to stuff....

    I have a 2 place yakima hold up, but I can't bring myself to buy the extension. I like the Thule T2 rack much better.

    I can't bring myself to sell my yakima to buy a $600 Thule T2 4 place rack.

    I have 4 king cobras and a plethora of load bars....I am "thinking" about making a rack that will take my 4 king cobra racks and putting a 2" receiver in it to ad the yakima when I need to haul 6 bikes. At least then I could put all my gear under my tonneau cover and then just have the bikes on a rack behind the truck. This is starting to look like the most logical answer.
     
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    Buy 2 more king cobras and a flatbed trailer. Mount all six cobras to said trailer. Done. :D
     
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    I've thought about that, and living in "I bought a snowmobile I can only use 2 months out of the year" land. there are typically a ton of small cheap trailers around that could do the trick....but towing a trailer around just to cart bikes around is a pain in the ass :)
     
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    b cuz trailer you now have more room for activities in your bed! (assuming you have a truck!)

     
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    I'm in a pickle right now too. I have a Yakima Hold Up. It got whacked by a kid at a stop light (long story). The 2nd bike holder is tweaked and I only trust my daughter's bike, nothing bigger. The pivot flanges got bent a hair. So even if I replace the bent one and add the "Plus 2", I risk 4 bikes sticking out near my driver side mirror.
     
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    Wouldn't the kid's insurance cover that? I got rear-ended by a lady putting make-up on and everything looked fine (no bike rack on), front of her, not so much. Took my SUV to the dealer to get it checked out anyway and turns out the bolts holding the hitch were slightly bent. Got the entire assembly replaced for free.
     
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    I had a T2 that held 4 bikes and that thing was a little scary when fully loaded.
     
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    Really? We've used a buddy of mine's t2 with 4 trays and it always seemed fine. I think the T2 is a lot more solid than the hold up I have now.
     
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    :rofl: I imagine you don't let a payloader with two yards of gravel anywhere near your 'truck,' huh?
     
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    I had one for over 10 years. It worked fine but on rough roads I didn't trust it much. Still a great rack though.
     
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    Only if im the operator.
     
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    Couldn't that problem be soved by altering the positions of respective mount by 1-2"? I mean sort of like the keys on a piano, with the outer sides closer to the vehicle, here shown as a 4-mount rack: il li


    A 5-mount rack would have the middle (bike no3) another 1-2" away from bike no 2 and 4, etc. Dunno how to solve a 6-mount though.
     
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    ^ This.

    It only takes a small offset to cure that problem. You can also offset the height of the rear tire mount and that will rotate just enough where the handlebars are to avoid more interference issues.
     
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    Here goes. I turned left across a 5 lane into a parking lot at my daughters school. Kid comes across hill at 60+ (a former traffic cop watched it happend while about to step out with his own kid at the crosswalk). When he started skidding, he was doing 50 per the trooper. Trooper I think felt bad for the teen. Teen had a green light and I was turning left without a solid green.

    NC law doesn't state any rights for me if he is breaking the law. So we would BOTH get tickets. Him for 50 in a 35mph school zone, me for Failure to Yield.

    So no way his insurance has to pay for my rack. SUCKED!!!
     
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    wtf?!?! 35 is the limit in a school zone?! Over here it's more like 12 (20 km/h). 35 mph (50km/h) in a school zone seems ridiculous to me.

    either way, sucks for you, sorry to hear it.
     
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    It's 25 mph here in Michigan.

    We have "No fault" insurance. Occasionally you can pull off a $500 mini tort against the driver at fault, but it's rare. Though if I was rear ended my insurance would cover damages (minus deductible) since i have collision coverage.

    Either way, sucks you got hit.
     
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    Yeah, that sucks. In many states the driver that rear-ended the other is responsible for damages. In the states that enforce this you would have gotten a ticket for your violation but he would be held accountable for hitting you. This law can really suck sometimes. I have a friend that was going to t-bone an old lady because she ran a light. In order to avoid hitting the passenger door he swerved and hit the back end of the car. So to avoid injuring someone in an accident that wasn't his fault to begin with he got the ticket and his insurance had to cover damages. Sometimes I just wonder where the f'ing common sense is in our laws. Ridiculous.

    PS - glad no one got hurt. That accident could have been bad at those speeds or worse if the teen hit one of the people in the lot.
     
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    I make my own luck. I could blame the kid for the whole thing, but the whoel thing could have been avoided if I'd just gotten to the school 10 minutes sooner and been able to wait in the car line, rather than try to park across the street and walk them in, it wouldn't have happened.


    Back to big racks! Show me some. Uncle Cliffy, feel free to post away....
     
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    SO is this a brand? Or is it just a solo job?
     
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    I'm not a fan of those 2 designs, the leverage/weight of the bike on the fork/seal area seems to be high, meaning that most of the load will be carried there without much support from the rear wheel. Just imagine your bike casing jumps repeatedly while driving down the road.
     
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    Yeah, if you ghosted it over jumps, in which case the fork seals would be least of your concerns. But there's a huge difference b/t that and casing it while riding.
     
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    I've yet to see any of these racks show what it looks like to strap a 20" or 24" on. Anybody got pics?

    Oh, and totally random, but I just ordered a Curt receiver hitch and wiring harness of Ebay on Monday (plain old free ground shipping) and BAM it is here. Absurdly quick delivery. Now I can bolt my bent up rack on and go....finally! Screw you dealership and your empty promises. :D
     
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    why is that specifically? the hooks on the fork crown or head tube seems pretty solid, less material, easier to load. although it would make it hard to load say a bmx or a road bike that didnt have a fork crown. do they have more movement of the bike itself?

    I too am about to build a rack, could have started this exact thread myself. just picked up a sweet windowless van for bike trips, and sleeping in the parking lot at whistler. not having ever used a rack of this type, I'm not aware of the pluses and minuses of each configuration. being able to take 6 bikes would be pretty killer. I rarely want to go on a DH trip without one other bike so 2 bikes x 3 people is a full load. I would need it to haul bmx bikes too so that kinda puts a damper on the fork crown mount.