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dh forum continuingly getting the chinese virus

kidwoo

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Aug 25, 2003
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Not covid, everyone has that.

I'm talking about the REAL chinese virus.


Limit new account postings dammit!
 

Sandwich

Pig my fish!
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May 23, 2002
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yeah I can't do shit. Blame @binary visions

I just span the bammers, but then they reinvent and attack again. Maybe we can block all chinese characters or something? i dunno. Not a lot of madnarin conversationalists on this forum.
 

kidwoo

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Aug 25, 2003
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yeah I can't do shit. Blame @binary visions

I just span the bammers, but then they reinvent and attack again. Maybe we can block all chinese characters or something? i dunno. Not a lot of madnarin conversationalists on this forum.
Either that or limit new accounts to 5 new threads a day. That would be yUdge

They spam in english too.
 

binary visions

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Jun 13, 2002
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@kidwoo Unfortunately, there's no easy setting of "allow users under X posts to only post X per day." Believe it or not, if there were a super easy solve here I would have already applied it.

Usergroups can't have flood limits applied to them individually, so I can't dump users into a monitored group and then auto-promote them out. I could crank the flood limits way down and exempt regular users from them entirely, but that just means if a spammer got out of their holding pen they'd have no limits on how much they could spam.

The user discouragement system has a lever for creating longer waits between posts, but can't be applied to entire usergroups.

There are plugins to help with this, but my experience with extensively relying on plugins has been terrible because they lose support and then you get stuck on old versions.

I have been tweaking some regex to try and filter these but had to capture some posts in order to generate it.
 

binary visions

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My quick testing is showing that my new RegEx is successfully capturing these kinds of posts into the Approval queue. Not sure if this will fix everything but it should help.
 

kidwoo

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I'm on some v bulletin sites that don't let you start threads until you have 5 non initiating posts. Figured that might be something in the host template.
 

binary visions

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I'm on some v bulletin sites that don't let you start threads until you have 5 non initiating posts. Figured that might be something in the host template.
I can, but I really don't like that from a user perspective, because it makes it impossible for someone to sign up and ask for help, and makes them post a bunch of garbage first.
 

Kevin

Turbo Monkey
I can, but I really don't like that from a user perspective, because it makes it impossible for someone to sign up and ask for help, and makes them post a bunch of garbage first.
I havent seen a new user around these parts for years and these bots are super annoying.

All of us are having to deal with this BS everyday, having to “ignore” a list of bots before we start browsing teh Monkey.
Surely thats not very user friendly at all either and concerns an exponential amount more users.
Im sure that one new user a year will be fine with not being able to start threads until they reach 5 posts if that means solving this Bot problem?
 

binary visions

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I understand the annoyances.

Currently, I am choosing to address the bot problem directly rather than impacting new users. @Kevin since you don't get to see the stats, you probably don't know that we have dozens of new users with 1-5 posts and a recent registration date and most of them were looking for information or help. I am not currently not planning on being a barrier to someone who wants to sign up here to ask a question.

Also, I think that maybe we should keep this in perspective. While this latest swarm of Chinese bots has been annoying, generally speaking the spammers get caught in the filters as they are supposed to, I tweak the filters to match when some slip through, and we go on with our day. This was more of a challenge because, well, I don't know Chinese so it's harder for me to pluck out common words and phrases to filter on, and the spammers weren't using any other techniques like images or links.
 

Kevin

Turbo Monkey
I understand the annoyances.

Currently, I am choosing to address the bot problem directly rather than impacting new users. @Kevin since you don't get to see the stats, you probably don't know that we have dozens of new users with 1-5 posts and a recent registration date and most of them were looking for information or help. I am not currently not planning on being a barrier to someone who wants to sign up here to ask a question.

Also, I think that maybe we should keep this in perspective. While this latest swarm of Chinese bots has been annoying, generally speaking the spammers get caught in the filters as they are supposed to, I tweak the filters to match when some slip through, and we go on with our day. This was more of a challenge because, well, I don't know Chinese so it's harder for me to pluck out common words and phrases to filter on, and the spammers weren't using any other techniques like images or links.
That does surprise me a little, but I figured new members wanting to actually contribute to the community would understand.
That way were not all “suffering” for a few people who just want a bit of help with their problem and then bail.

I fully understand your pov though and Im not saying youre doing a bad job or anything.
I realize theres more factors at hand than what I see as an end user.

Just trying to help and maybe voice the opinion of the community.
Keep up the good work :cheers:
 

binary visions

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Just trying to help and maybe voice the opinion of the community
Yep, I get it. You guys are within your rights to be annoyed. I'm just giving context and my rationale.

And since this is not a democracy, I will continue to do as I please and send the secret police after everyone who disagrees with me. :butcher:
 

Jm_

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Jan 14, 2002
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Well I for one welcome our new Chinese Triad overlords.
 
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velocipedist

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try filtering

大学

it is the Chinese/Japanese for university. Doubtful that anything legitimate will be caught, and most all of these seem to be hawking degrees.

I understand the annoyances.

Currently, I am choosing to address the bot problem directly rather than impacting new users. @Kevin since you don't get to see the stats, you probably don't know that we have dozens of new users with 1-5 posts and a recent registration date and most of them were looking for information or help. I am not currently not planning on being a barrier to someone who wants to sign up here to ask a question.

Also, I think that maybe we should keep this in perspective. While this latest swarm of Chinese bots has been annoying, generally speaking the spammers get caught in the filters as they are supposed to, I tweak the filters to match when some slip through, and we go on with our day. This was more of a challenge because, well, I don't know Chinese so it's harder for me to pluck out common words and phrases to filter on, and the spammers weren't using any other techniques like images or links.
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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try filtering

大学

it is the Chinese/Japanese for university. Doubtful that anything legitimate will be caught, and most all of these seem to be hawking degrees.
I had already done that, but for some reason it wasn't correctly pattern-matching.
 

kidwoo

Celebrating No-Pants Day
Aug 25, 2003
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I saw the initial two post warning last night and the cooties never hit.

So whatever you did worked. Where's the tip jar?
 

kidwoo

Celebrating No-Pants Day
Aug 25, 2003
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Is it OK if we PM them dick pics?
I usually pick one random profile on the site per day to do that with anyway but the problem with these is that they only last about 12 hours.

Gotta be quick on the draw. And by draw I mean pull your wiener out.
 

jstuhlman

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Dec 3, 2009
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I usually pick one random profile on the site per day to do that with anyway but the problem with these is that they only last about 12 hours.

Gotta be quick on the draw. And by draw I mean pull your wiener out.
wait, we're supposed to DRAW our dicks and then send a pic of that? dammit, i've been doing it all wrong.