DH season and Gas prices......
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Hint: it starts with Poon and ends with TangTattooo said:
A change in the currency that oil is traded on has no effect on the price. Exchange rates are already factored into the price.ragin-sagin said:
I can't belive that you put up with the taxes that are being applied to your gas.
I would like to see a big effort put into ethanol and biodiesel. Not only is it renewable, it would help farmers out. Currently, the US government pays farmers not to grow crops to keep the supply from outpacing demand and bottom out the price beyond where it currently is. This would make it possible to eliminate these payments. Brazil has went energy independant and the US can too. However, it will take consumer demand to make it happen rather than government mandate. That said, I do support government funding for research into making bio fuels economical.
Biodiesel is kick ass!
I am thinking of trading my truck in, but the issue is the equipment to make your own diesel. Its about $3k for the equipment, but on the upside you can help your local friers out and it smells like fries when you drive down the road.
I am thinking of trading my truck in, but the issue is the equipment to make your own diesel. Its about $3k for the equipment, but on the upside you can help your local friers out and it smells like fries when you drive down the road.
You can make your own equiptment with free to low cost parts. We are running some test batches in the next few weeks.
Ethanol is not the answere, there is a bunch of nasty biproducts that come along with it, it also requires a large amount of oil to make.ChrisKring said:
Just a friendly warning here:Tattooo said:
You can't leave yourself wide open like that here on RM like you did with the above statement. Someone less scrupulous than myself is gonna take that and run with it. Not me though.
Jeremy, that's cause you're an upstanding southerner.
And yes, she was worth every dollar. Having a wife with an MD is a close second to having a full time sugar momma. The inherent difference is she wants me to get skinny and stop sleeping with dead midgets. Its small, but significant, like me.
And yes, she was worth every dollar. Having a wife with an MD is a close second to having a full time sugar momma. The inherent difference is she wants me to get skinny and stop sleeping with dead midgets. Its small, but significant, like me.
and fertilizers/pestisides no doubt to maximize production.....Mike Buell said:
Well it will have an effect on the value of the dollar, which is expected to decline even further in the next 3 months, a weak dollar will no longer dictate oil prices...thanks for the advice but I believe Bloomberg a bit more than Chris Kring. Lemme guess, you thought that a war in Iraq would have no effect on oil prices either?ChrisKring said:
In USD New Zealanders pay about $0.20 a gallon more in taxes...with petrol at 3 bucks a gallon thats piss in the pot.ChrisKring said:
How can we put up with that? Remind me again how much health insurance is in the US?
Im driving a 110 Landrover Defender using vegetable oil in summer and home made bio derv when the temps drop a bit thats made from used sunflower that is waste product from a friends company.
Carries 4 of us and bikes no problems.
Carries 4 of us and bikes no problems.
Yes, oil prices will go up with war in the middle east. Any instablity will create higher prices. What do you think should be done about Iran? According to an oil expert on CNN over the weekend, Iran having nukes is bumping the price $20/barrel.ragin-sagin said:In USD New Zealanders pay about $0.20 a gallon more in taxes...with petrol at 3 bucks a gallon thats piss in the pot.
How can we put up with that? Remind me again how much health insurance is in the US?
And how does oil being traded in euros affect the value of the us dollar? Yes, if the us dollar loses value, the price of oil in dollars goes up.
Insurance: I am not sure how good your national health care is. However, friends of mine in canada don't like theirs. I know a guy that busted his leg on saturday while dh'ing and had to wait until tuesday to get it set since the hospital in montreal would only stabilize him. The earliest that his doctor in toronto could get him in was Tuesday. WTF?
When my wife moved here from Montreal she was blown away at the service she got at the doctor's office. Granted, we have decent insurance, but she said the service in Montreal and Quebec City sucks. It's sometimes days, weeks or occasionally months before getting an appointment. She had a friend call the doctor about postpartem depression (sometimes very serious stuff) and they told her she'd have to wait a month. Canadian tax dollars at work.ChrisKring said:
Chris, there is a little thing called The Second Law of Thermodynamics. You have to use fuel to produce biofuel. On a large scale, biofuel is a lossing proposition. Trust me, I work in this field of research. Not saying it isn't a local/regional/short-term solution, but on a national/global scale is doesn't work.
The best, current long-term solution is fuel cells run on hydrogen produced from water. But even that has to follow the Second Law. Current Hydrogen economies have hydrogen being produced on off-peak waste nuclear power, but carrying around compressed hydrogen is at best a local car solution. Since the same quanity of energy from hydrogen has a much larger volume than a liquid fuel such a gasoline or diesel.
The best, current long-term solution is fuel cells run on hydrogen produced from water. But even that has to follow the Second Law. Current Hydrogen economies have hydrogen being produced on off-peak waste nuclear power, but carrying around compressed hydrogen is at best a local car solution. Since the same quanity of energy from hydrogen has a much larger volume than a liquid fuel such a gasoline or diesel.
so far this year, where we ride has seen good crowds weekend after weekend.
that came to a screeching halt here in the past few weeks.
the same with all the other ohv activity here.
they were filling up this parking lot every weekend. but it's quickly turning into a ghost town.
that came to a screeching halt here in the past few weeks.
the same with all the other ohv activity here.
they were filling up this parking lot every weekend. but it's quickly turning into a ghost town.
God, this site has turned so SMUG lately.
(south park reference)
(south park reference)
Doug
I am well aware of the laws of thermodynamics. You are correct that biofuel requires energy to make. With the current price of gas it is econmically feasible to produce biodiesel using electricity off of the grid for the process of creating it from soy, etc. A company is actually building a plant about an hour away from me to make biodiesel on an equivelant scale of just over one million barrels of oil per year. Yes, I realise that it is small in scale to the overall oil usage. However,it is a start.
As you stated, hydrogen fuel cells have the same problem. They require energy to make the hydrogen. The logical source is nuclear. However, the US public has a problem with that ever since 3 mile Island. Kinda funny since it is working so well in Canada and Europe. The biggest problem is the "not in my backyard" for the waste disposal. Read the newspaper out in Vegas sometime and you will understand it a little more. My Father-inlaw (who is also an engineer) toured Yucca mountain and was sold on the fact that they have the best place and he even lives in Vegas.
I guess that I am more of a "glass is half full" person. I know that given enough effort that a solution will be had.
Doug: ME or ChemEng?
I am well aware of the laws of thermodynamics. You are correct that biofuel requires energy to make. With the current price of gas it is econmically feasible to produce biodiesel using electricity off of the grid for the process of creating it from soy, etc. A company is actually building a plant about an hour away from me to make biodiesel on an equivelant scale of just over one million barrels of oil per year. Yes, I realise that it is small in scale to the overall oil usage. However,it is a start.
As you stated, hydrogen fuel cells have the same problem. They require energy to make the hydrogen. The logical source is nuclear. However, the US public has a problem with that ever since 3 mile Island. Kinda funny since it is working so well in Canada and Europe. The biggest problem is the "not in my backyard" for the waste disposal. Read the newspaper out in Vegas sometime and you will understand it a little more. My Father-inlaw (who is also an engineer) toured Yucca mountain and was sold on the fact that they have the best place and he even lives in Vegas.
I guess that I am more of a "glass is half full" person. I know that given enough effort that a solution will be had.
Doug: ME or ChemEng?
Well then, consider the problem solved. 
It doesn't. But fuel prices have always been somewhat independent of the (de)valuation of the USD. This insulation will be gone when oil is traded in Euro's. If and when the dollar drops dramatically in the next few months (as most economists agree it will), fuel prices will sky rocket...again.ChrisKring said:
And for only the second time in history, the Canadian dollar will trade higher than the US dollar. It closed at 90.38c today, up 5 cents in 20 days. Gotta love that Bush economy!ragin-sagin said:
Well thats a shame, but I don't live in Canada and I am not talking about socialized health care. I pay about $25 a month (converted to USD) for full coverage (vision, dental etc) with a $100ChrisKring said:
excess. I can go to any Dr. I want, whenever I want. When I was in the states, my employer payed about 350 bucks a month and I covered the remaining 150 bucks for the same coverage with a $500 excess.
Just putting things into perspective if you want to argue about the excise tax...
Just read an interesting one in the Post too...seems credit card companies stand to make $2.2 billion more in 2006 because of higher pump prices. Exxon profits up 75%, Chevron 53%, ConocoPhillips 89%. I don't see anybody losing from higher fuel prices!!!
I don't buy it. I live in Montreal and have never waited more than a few hours (and that was because the cast guy/ortho had already left for the day and had to be paged).ChrisKring said:
I have also busted myself out of product (Ontario, PEI, BC) and never had any issues. They just bill Quebec. Maybe the Ontario stuff isn't billed back so he couldn't be treated here...but I have never heard o fthat.
Yeah, the guy got busted up at bromont in the summer of 2004. He was a friend of a friend. Looked to be in crazy pain when they left for toronto.Transcend said:
Not just health insurance, but quite a few other services as well. I don't know how it works in NZ, but compare the cost of college education in the US and most of Europe.ragin-sagin said:In USD New Zealanders pay about $0.20 a gallon more in taxes...with petrol at 3 bucks a gallon thats piss in the pot.
How can we put up with that? Remind me again how much health insurance is in the US?
I do remember a few years ago when gas was 89 cents.
I just thought I'd make an observation here:
Many of the guys who will bitch and complain about gas prices and how much it costs to get them to a race, will be the same ones justifying in their head why they bought that Fox 40 instead of a more budget oriented fork, or a used fork, that will provide the same race results... or will be buying that brand new 2007 frame next year instead of beating on their 1-season-old frame for another year.
It's all about perspective...
Many of the guys who will bitch and complain about gas prices and how much it costs to get them to a race, will be the same ones justifying in their head why they bought that Fox 40 instead of a more budget oriented fork, or a used fork, that will provide the same race results... or will be buying that brand new 2007 frame next year instead of beating on their 1-season-old frame for another year.
It's all about perspective...
Here here.binary visions said:
I'll be riding a frame on it's 5th or 6th season this summer, and I'm pretty happy about that. (Knock on wood.) Not that you could do that with any 2000 frame. It's all about spending within your means.
andragin-sagin said:
sweet, bike industry will be have record profits, too!! (fingers crossed)mmaddmark said: