so its time to let my family know what i want for christmas. so. dhx or dhx air? does the air have any problems like leaking or anything?
The air and the coil don't feel the same.lovebunny said:well i do have a shock i can use as a backup. i just want to know if theres any major problems with the air.
Jm_ said:The air and the coil don't feel the same.
The air one blows through the travel, and that makes it feel harsh at higher speed in medium bumps that cause the suspension to compress too far. This is assuming both shocks are set up with the same settings, you can make the air more progressive, but you can't really get rid of this mid-stroke wallow, and it's pretty noticable. Due to how far it goes into its travel, it makes bumps at low speed dissapear, in this sense it sort of feels better than the coil because the coil doesn't go through quite as much travel on the same sized bump. I like the coil much better because it's much more consistant, at slow and fast speeds, large and small bumps. It's much more predicatable and consistant. I tried both shocks on the same bike, same settings, then changed the settings. I went back to the coil because I liked it much better.
The other problem is sag, I can't sag the air shock nearly as much as I can with the coil. If I do, it makes the "wallow" problem even worse.
??? Falls way off? It's a very linear design.manwithgun said:TJ, remember that your Balfa's suspension falls way off towards the bottom of the stroke. Might not be a very good match with the AIR... but air is cool; I read somewhere that at todays technical forefront, there's an air filled shoe in the works; it's even gonna have manual pump built right into the tounge.... they're going to sell millions.
I think I remember responding to a thread about fitting a DHX Air to a BB7. If it's the 02,03 model, you lose travel because of the stroke of the 8.75 DHX Air.WheelieMan said:??? Falls way off? It's a very linear design.
If I were you I would be concerned about poor frame alignment, Balfas are famous for it. I would not use an air shock on a downhill bike unless I knew my frame was aligned perfectly.
Jm_ said:The air and the coil don't feel the same.
The air one blows through the travel, and that makes it feel harsh at higher speed in medium bumps that cause the suspension to compress too far....
Turner 6 pack. Got to ride the DHX air for a few weeks, had the option to keep it, but I didn't like the performance downgrade.OGRipper said:JM, what frame (or frames) are you talking about? I know people with single pivot, falling rate bikes that feel the same as you, others with different frames that love the air and say they will never go back.
And can anyone confirm that the damping is the same? The only issues I've seen with air or coil dhx is the occasional blown rebound circuit and I am pretty sure it's the same unit for both.
I saw one on a wilson when up in whistler this summer.bc2002 said:I heard that Devinci is putting the air on their Wilsons. I agree with the "wallowness", but would love to drop a lb off my bike.
The one question I got though is how would it perform in colder weather, like now?
nothing at all. i love my romic:love: and i love the service roger gives me too. but i want to try something new. also this isnt going on my bb7. its going on a new frame im getting in about a monthBMXman said:So TJ what's wrong with your Romic??...D
No...It will implode opon installation.SBDownhillRacer said:can the air handle a demo 9 and the big drops
Cool... Give me your Balfa! NOW!lovebunny said:nothing at all. i love my romic:love: and i love the service roger gives me too. but i want to try something new. also this isnt going on my bb7. its going on a new frame im getting in about a month
Dude, you don't want that thing, it has a pinch flat hex on itCiaran said:Cool... Give me your Balfa! NOW!
Yeah, Jm is right, they feel nothing alike.OGRipper said:JM, what frame (or frames) are you talking about? I know people with single pivot, falling rate bikes that feel the same as you, others with different frames that love the air and say they will never go back.
And can anyone confirm that the damping is the same? The only issues I've seen with air or coil dhx is the occasional blown rebound circuit and I am pretty sure it's the same unit for both.
you could always toss on a regular dhx with the remote resi and then get a ti coil if you are looking for a new, lighter shock. although i dont really know the difference in weight between a romic and a dhx.black noise said:I'm looking at my frame now... dang.
Well, one key difference between the two shocks is the piston. Despite having the same name, the pistons are not the same. This is the primary reason the DHX-A lacks the mid-stroke support, because that part of the piston that would provide it is absent on the DHX-A. This is one problem that Push has with the DHX-A.wingman24 said:DIRT has a whole article on air vs Coil in this months issue (Jan/feb 06') its deffinately of some interest. After i read it I don't think I would use an air shock YET but give it a couple of years and it might be possable.