And thats exactly what put BB over the top...... they received letter like this..... they said **** this **** I dont want to deal with riders bitching at us.... we dont make enough to listen to this.....
Diablo Negligence WTF????
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I doubt that Diablo makes lots of $$$ snow vs. dirt. Not like Big Bear. Besides, BB was self-insuring. That was problem, not riders "bitching".
Ya threaten them and scare them! That'll definitely help the sport! Nothing encourages a company to invest into the trails and infrastructure like fearing your customers suing you! Most importantly there is NO PRECEDENT of lawsuits like this or threat of ending MTB at a resort in the US. I don't care what anyone or "science" says to the contrary.
OP you were more careless than Diablo. Never hit big jumps/drops without checking them out earlier that day, ever, no exception. ESPECIALLY on opening day, jesus christ, so f-ing retarded.
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I rather have them shut down or hire new management than having mountain bikers hurt seriously through gross negligence. Which will bring lawsuits (e.g. Big Bear), drive insurance premiums through the roof, and cause other well-run resorts to end MTB.
Fair point. We're fortunate to have places like this to ride and we should protect it. I don't see how it can hurt to write a letter stating the facts and saying (nicely!) that it'd be a good idea for someone to sweep these trails in the morning and evening just to avoid situations like this.
Whistler do this very well without massive overheads for admin etc. All it takes is someone at the top of the lift with a clipboard and radio to ask someone what trail they're riding and to sweep it carefully being the first one(s) down, and then someone else to check in with at the bottom. They could open the lift 20mins earlier as an incentive and I'm sure 99% of riders would oblige.
So, i can see why we are getting more and more parks in europe, and the US having trouble keeping theirs open.
Of course there are faults on boths sides.
But why is common sense... not common here ?
Anyone riding a trail for the first time on opening day, should at least take a slow roll, and check if everything is as it shoudl be.. what if they changed features on some jumps ? new landings, etc..
And multi forum whining.. to show how upset and unfair it is ? jebus.
Of course there are faults on boths sides.
But why is common sense... not common here ?
Anyone riding a trail for the first time on opening day, should at least take a slow roll, and check if everything is as it shoudl be.. what if they changed features on some jumps ? new landings, etc..
And multi forum whining.. to show how upset and unfair it is ? jebus.
Sucks, man. There is a bit of negligence there; the branches looks almost intentionally placed (NOT saying that they were, just that it looks similar to XC trails I've been on where people try to close off side trails and such). But, you're still alive and relatively healthy and, as said, it is important to keep places open to ride. Send an email with some strong words to Diablo and let them know. Opening days often mean sketchy riding (leaves, snow, sticks), but it was dangerous in the pics.
I live in CA now, but I am from NJ and rode Diablo for several years as my main DH area. I once had a bad interaction there and sent Shawn a message about it. I don't know if anything changed, but he was nice to me and gave a good response. He has always been pretty helpful to me (once drove me down and helped me out a lot when I had to go to the hospital due to a crash) and remembered my name. He gets crapped on a bit on the internet, but he seems like a good guy and businessman if you are reasonable (ie not just cursing and yelling).
I live in CA now, but I am from NJ and rode Diablo for several years as my main DH area. I once had a bad interaction there and sent Shawn a message about it. I don't know if anything changed, but he was nice to me and gave a good response. He has always been pretty helpful to me (once drove me down and helped me out a lot when I had to go to the hospital due to a crash) and remembered my name. He gets crapped on a bit on the internet, but he seems like a good guy and businessman if you are reasonable (ie not just cursing and yelling).
Wow... How can anyone come and claim that this is somehow riders fault? Indeed myself always take the first run on any trail on a given day - easy. However I might hit some of the jumps if there not closed. And in JURP we close our jumps down by closing take-offs not by piling **** on landings.
This is just too big. This is insane - whoever got the idea of closing jumps like that should get criminal charges pushed against them.
This is just too big. This is insane - whoever got the idea of closing jumps like that should get criminal charges pushed against them.
I rather have them shut down or hire new management than having mountain bikers hurt seriously through gross negligence.
Spoken like someone who lives 3000 miles away.
It's also possible that despite the trail being open, the feature may still have been listed as closed. Consider the possibility that a rider rolls up, sees the tape across Anthem, removes it, then looks at the landing, says "I pay to ride, i'm not cleaning this sh!t" doesn't hit the drop, or replace the tape. I'm not saying this is what happened but there are a multitude of possibilities.
That being said, I'm not sure when the last time a multi-page diatribe on RM achieved anything (especially at Diablo). Shawn is a businessman, and he's not in the business of intentionally sending people to the hospital. I would be very angry as well if this happened to me, but since both parties are at some degree of fault, and no one was seriously injured I would approach Diablo management in a CALM manner and proceed from there.
That being said, I'm not sure when the last time a multi-page diatribe on RM achieved anything (especially at Diablo). Shawn is a businessman, and he's not in the business of intentionally sending people to the hospital. I would be very angry as well if this happened to me, but since both parties are at some degree of fault, and no one was seriously injured I would approach Diablo management in a CALM manner and proceed from there.
I was there yesterday and i heard about this on the lift. I think its pretty irresponsible of them to not to check the trails before opening them. Glad you're not hurt though.
I'm not looking to do anything to Diablo other than let people know what happened. Riders need to be aware that this can happen there. In retrospect I should have looked. But I dont think most poeple would have. This feature is at the end of the trail. The entire rest of the trail was totally clear. No leaves, no debris, no sticks, nothing. On opening day you expect the park to sweep the trails. I know this would not have happened at Highland or Whistler. Last year I was at Highland first thing in the morning. We got to the top and some trails were closed. We asked why and they said beacause those trails havent been gone through yet. They open them after they sweep them. That is the responsiblity of any bike park. Had I received any reasonable response at the park office I would not have blasted them here. As a consumer and customer of the park who was basically ignored by the park I only have one outlet to vent my frustration. That is the forums. I'm not looking to cause problems here but Diablo needs to change the way they do things. I understand the risk of riding the way we do. If they changed the feature and I came up short that would be my fault. That was not the case. My purpose for starting this thread was to get their attention since I couldn't get it in person in thier office. I understand that they wouldn't admit negligence or give me a helmet. I shouldn't have received a blow off either. As a bike park that takes our money they are resonsible to provide us trails that are safe. It was an oversight on their part to not either close the trail of clear the landing. It could have cost me or someone else the ability to ever ride again. I have ridden alot of bike parks and have never seen or heard of anything like this before.
Hope you're feeling ok man, that sucks...
There was no maintenance done on any trail I rode yesterday. I expect this on the downhill trails like Slayer & Monarch as they never do anything to them (last year there was a tree across Monarch for a month) and as usual the leaves are 2 feet deep on those trails, but for my now $40 ticket price I expect some jump grooming and stick/branch clearing at the least...(or any kind of maintenance for that matter)
There was no maintenance done on any trail I rode yesterday. I expect this on the downhill trails like Slayer & Monarch as they never do anything to them (last year there was a tree across Monarch for a month) and as usual the leaves are 2 feet deep on those trails, but for my now $40 ticket price I expect some jump grooming and stick/branch clearing at the least...(or any kind of maintenance for that matter)
The logs were intentioanally placed there to stabalize hay used to prevent winter erosion. I was there and thats why that sh1t was in the landing. The trail was open, and dude is lucky to have avoided serious injury. Diablo is not Big Bear, Shauwns profits are determined by the amount of ticket sales less his overhead. There was a definate shortage of trail maintenece and it showed, less workers, more money. Get it? Shauwn also has an elaborate history of being a dick and lossing or forfeiting his forums where riders come to be heard, he has a hard head to say the least.
Diablo fvcked this one up and should make it right. Im sure Jack is an OK guy and maybe he will offer an explanation. But I highly doubt Shauwn gives two sh1ts about this whole incident. And the riders who blame the OP here are taking Shauwns side, that doesnt say much for them, or us as a community. So carry on about Big Bear and personal responsability and lets just minimize this whole thing and go back to keeping our heads in the sand.
Diablo fvcked this one up and should make it right. Im sure Jack is an OK guy and maybe he will offer an explanation. But I highly doubt Shauwn gives two sh1ts about this whole incident. And the riders who blame the OP here are taking Shauwns side, that doesnt say much for them, or us as a community. So carry on about Big Bear and personal responsability and lets just minimize this whole thing and go back to keeping our heads in the sand.
While it is very unfortunate what happened to the original poster, it is not a representation of Diablo Freeride Park being negligent. The “Anthem” trail is a short, offshoot trail that merely serves the purpose as an in-run to the Anthem Drop. This trail was clearly closed with rope, a trail closed sign and downfall was placed on BOTH the landing AND in-run. We had no intentions of opening this line and this situation, while unfortunate, was directly a result of another rider or rider(s) taking it upon themselves to “open” a trail without permission or consent. It appears that these individual removed the necessary signage, the debris from the inrun, and then bailed when they saw that this would take a lot of time to clear the entire section of the trail. Unfortunately, there is no way for our park, or any park, to police every trail, every feature, every minute of the day and the riders responsible for doing this should be ashamed.
Trail closures are a part of bike park operations and if a trail is closed, it is closed for a REASON. Even though you purchase a lift ticket, or a pass, this does not give you the right to take it upon yourself to alter operations, open/close trails, or create pirate lines. The amount of self-entitlement of certain riders is staggering, alarming and a detriment to our sport.
Regarding opening day trail maintenance and for those stating that there was “zero” trail maintenance. Sorry to be blunt, but you are wrong. The Trail Crew, as was I, were on the mountain for 6 weeks in snow, rain, sleet, hail and every imaginable adverse weather condition preparing the mountain for opening day. EVERY trail was inspected, ALL popular, high-traffic trails were maintained either by extensive handwork and/or machine work, however there were a handful of the ‘natural’, less popular trails (six to be exact) that did not receive a final leaf-blow. These six trails WERE inspected, major debris removed and deemed SAFE to ride. No disrespect, but if you need every trail buffed to BMX-course-like perfection, than DH riding may not be the sport for you. Leaves on trails are a part of the sport and sometimes they exist and sometimes they do not but by no means do leaves represent a lack of maintenance.
Lastly, it is important to note that we have an impeccable safety record, and in fact, a flawless one. Diablo has been in business for seven years, played host to ten’s of thousands of riders (and racers) and we have a verifiable ZERO insurance loss-run and furthermore, there has not been one single insurance claim filed during this period for any reason whatsoever. In arguably the most litigious region of the country (NJ/NYC), in a high-risk sport such as DH’ing with tens of thousands of riders per year, this benchmark safety record is a testament to our dedication to safety & high-standard of trail maintenance. Clearly a ‘half-assed’ or ‘neglectful’ operation as stated above would not be able to claim this type of safety record.
Sorry for the long-winded response, but hopefully this sheds some light on the situation. It’s another busy day here at the park and it’s looking like another record-breaking opening weekend! Thank you to the thousands of riders that continue to support the park, it’s going to be a great season full of new trails, features & events! If you have any questions please direct them to: info@diablofreeridepark.com and we would be happy to provide additional info at our earliest convenience.
Regards,
Shawn Orecchio
General Manager
Diablo Freeride Park
Trail closures are a part of bike park operations and if a trail is closed, it is closed for a REASON. Even though you purchase a lift ticket, or a pass, this does not give you the right to take it upon yourself to alter operations, open/close trails, or create pirate lines. The amount of self-entitlement of certain riders is staggering, alarming and a detriment to our sport.
Regarding opening day trail maintenance and for those stating that there was “zero” trail maintenance. Sorry to be blunt, but you are wrong. The Trail Crew, as was I, were on the mountain for 6 weeks in snow, rain, sleet, hail and every imaginable adverse weather condition preparing the mountain for opening day. EVERY trail was inspected, ALL popular, high-traffic trails were maintained either by extensive handwork and/or machine work, however there were a handful of the ‘natural’, less popular trails (six to be exact) that did not receive a final leaf-blow. These six trails WERE inspected, major debris removed and deemed SAFE to ride. No disrespect, but if you need every trail buffed to BMX-course-like perfection, than DH riding may not be the sport for you. Leaves on trails are a part of the sport and sometimes they exist and sometimes they do not but by no means do leaves represent a lack of maintenance.
Lastly, it is important to note that we have an impeccable safety record, and in fact, a flawless one. Diablo has been in business for seven years, played host to ten’s of thousands of riders (and racers) and we have a verifiable ZERO insurance loss-run and furthermore, there has not been one single insurance claim filed during this period for any reason whatsoever. In arguably the most litigious region of the country (NJ/NYC), in a high-risk sport such as DH’ing with tens of thousands of riders per year, this benchmark safety record is a testament to our dedication to safety & high-standard of trail maintenance. Clearly a ‘half-assed’ or ‘neglectful’ operation as stated above would not be able to claim this type of safety record.
Sorry for the long-winded response, but hopefully this sheds some light on the situation. It’s another busy day here at the park and it’s looking like another record-breaking opening weekend! Thank you to the thousands of riders that continue to support the park, it’s going to be a great season full of new trails, features & events! If you have any questions please direct them to: info@diablofreeridepark.com and we would be happy to provide additional info at our earliest convenience.
Regards,
Shawn Orecchio
General Manager
Diablo Freeride Park
OP says it's listed OPEN, Diablo says it's marked closed. So who's telling the truth here?
Is Anthem listed separately? Or did the OP assume it's open because tempest was?
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So a group of mystery riders removed and hid all signage and other evidence of the trail being closed? Interesting.
I had to carry my bike over a fallen tree on a fully open trail, unless of course it was closed and a bunch of kids had removed the signage on that one too.
Also I can't believe the people saying it was the rider's responsibility to check the landing. This isn't some public access forest.
I was in the store listening to the Diablo employee telling him his dizziness was probably just from dehydration, and scrambling desperately to avoid paying him a few hundred bucks for a new helmet. If I was running the place I would be bending over backwards to replace that helmet since that's all he was asking for. Better than him going home pissed and deciding to sue.
I had to carry my bike over a fallen tree on a fully open trail, unless of course it was closed and a bunch of kids had removed the signage on that one too.
Also I can't believe the people saying it was the rider's responsibility to check the landing. This isn't some public access forest.
I was in the store listening to the Diablo employee telling him his dizziness was probably just from dehydration, and scrambling desperately to avoid paying him a few hundred bucks for a new helmet. If I was running the place I would be bending over backwards to replace that helmet since that's all he was asking for. Better than him going home pissed and deciding to sue.
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I like this guy.
Ive been in Whistler for 10 years now, over they years Ive ran into blown down trees, random boulders sitting right in the middle of a trail, working trail crew and have no recollection how many times Ive landed my wheels on some tourist down on the backside of a jump...Hec, I've even rammed into a bear one time.Its impossible for a bike park to monitor everything and even if in this instance the incident could have easily been prevented , the rider should always be prepare to hit the deck because of circumstances out of his control.
In this case it was obviously not a random act of nature and more likely human error.It may have been their mistake for not sending out a patrol on every trails before they opened to make sure everything was in best shape as possible but was the trail really meant to be opened?
I feel for you man as Im sure I would feel the same but the truth is, riding at the resort doesnt make anyone but yourself responsible for your own actions.No one forced you to be coming in hot and ready to launch the jump on your first run .You could have just as well been coming down the trail at a much slower speed and would have seen the landing wasnt clear...
Last , lets not forget there's always 2 sides of a story, sure looks VERY incriminating in this case... almost a little too much I'd say.Im having a hard time finding a reason why would a resort need to carefully place sticks and branches like that other than to prevent people from riding a soft , freshly built landing OR if a trail IS meant to be closed...Maybe the sign at the top of the trail was changed or it could have even been the person taking the picture for that matter
well what is it you are trying to do then? The only thing this trend does is to potentially hurt their business,sure wont get you a new helmet or even apologies from them.I get your frustration but I think this is something you should have kept to your self.
actually you clearly dont
You are absolutely right on this and this is why I would feel the same as you .It wasnt very ethical from them to blow you off like that and they could have @ least provided you with a bunch of vouchers to keep you as an happy camper.
absolutely not, how can they make something safe to ride for everyone?The notion of safety is greatly different form a rider to an other.Maybe it wasnt a tricky feature to ride in this case but the incident could have been prevented ...
Their is this nauseous notion in America to always trying to fault someone, why is that ? It wont get you anything good @ this point unless if you are planning to lawyer up and its probably only going to make you even more mad
Yup, sure was ... if it was really meant to be open. @ the end of the day,you should be glad nothing bad happened to you and you still have a place where you can take that sick DH bike and go shred hard.
Glad your OK, now time to shop for a new shinny helmet and go ride !
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None of the things you have mentioned bear any resemblance to the circumstances in question: a bunch of logs, placed there by employees, on the landing area of a jump. Dangerous, avoidable and unacceptable.
If you keep reading further down my post you would find this : In this case it was obviously not a random act of nature and more likely human error.It may have been their mistake for not sending out a patrol on every trails before they opened to make sure everything was in best shape as possible but was the trail really meant to be opened?
and the trail wasnt open . . .
OP says it's LISTED as OPEN.
he should have taken a pic of that too then, he obviously had plenty of time to take pics of where he took a nasty spill.
And the Park claims otherwise, that the trail in question here was NOT open.
so hep hey.. who is right ?
My bet is on the guy that can get sued out of business, if he cant back up his claims ..
No sir, you are absolutly incorrect on that one........ The closure was not from BB being self insured, every case that was brought against BB was thrown out.
I know the owners personally, we go to the same gym, I service their vehicles, family has known them for some time
Flatout...... This is their reason for closing BB..... "We dont make **** for money letting downhillers ride our park, We are tired of hearing them bitch at us taht we need to do this we need to do that.... Forget it, no more Downhill here...."
Bottom line.... Bigbear was lucky to break even running DH during the summer. A single peak day just about every year made more than the entire summer of DH there.
The reason is in fact is the riders for BB..... and now just like there you have someone running the park stepping up to more legit reasons for what has happened, and is pissed about it as well....... Who is at fault for that.... Someone who took down markings, as well as the rider who is assuming about what is happening... who didnt wait to hear from the resort before listing it across the forums.............or its Daiblo just covering their tracks... WE Dont know here, noone here was there, noone has the full story here.... so point in fact NOONE HERE CAN SAY WHOS AT FAULT...... NOONE CAN SAY ITS 100% DIABLOS FAULT, NOONE CAN SAY ITS THE RIDERS FAULT...... period.
I said two things..... sure Diablo preobably needed to take a closer look at things, but the rider should have as well for his own personal responsibility as well. I will stand by that forever that all riders need to take some personel responsibility in what we do, and look out for ourselves.
If the trail was listed as open and not marked or blocked as closed, it's pretty hard to accept Diablo's argument that a rogue rider opened it. It's also hard to understand why the feature would be listed as open if the crew knew that intentionally-placed debris had not been cleared. So, to accept Diablo's side, you have to believe that (1) someone at Diablo made the mistake of listing the trail as open; AND (2) another rider removed a barrier or "closed" sign.
With that said, all of us should be doing everything we can to keep lift-assisted mountains open for bikes. That means taking some personal responsibility, even though you are paying to play.
Sounds to me like the OP is being pretty reasonable - he's not spouting off about suing for millions, he just wants a deal on a new helmet, and maybe some effort to make things safer on the trails.
With that said, all of us should be doing everything we can to keep lift-assisted mountains open for bikes. That means taking some personal responsibility, even though you are paying to play.
Sounds to me like the OP is being pretty reasonable - he's not spouting off about suing for millions, he just wants a deal on a new helmet, and maybe some effort to make things safer on the trails.
I disagree. There is a difference between a difficult to ride feature that takes high skill and technique, and a structurally unsafe feature that has not been adequately maintained that you're not distinguishing between. Negligence on the part of the mountain to maintain features safety is a big deal.
At the end of the day, nobody is going to protect you and keep you safe better then yourself, and so on opening day when the trails haven't been adequately bufffed, riding with caution isn't a bad thing, but poorly maintained features are a pretty fuggin good way of getting a mountain shut down (and at the fault of the mountain). Nobody wins that way, so avoiding lawsuits and sharing responsibility is probably a good thing.
But yah, the response for DFP was pretty appalling, both in person and online. Even if they're genuinely not at fault, and don't want to have any part in law suit risk by taking responsibility, it was still a pretty asinine response.
This is actually were you should agree........ this is were the rider should have looked first... without seeing any negligence... what if they changed the feature..... Diablo is advertizing new fearures, changes in features etc..... sorry rider shold ahve looked to see if it was changed before hitting it blindly...... Its opening day, things are different from last year.. You NEED to look before you leap. Now as it turns out it wasnt changed, it was left in a poor condition.... BUT bottom line is, that if a standard looking out for yourself was practiced here, the entire situation could have, and would have been prevented.
There was an asusmption by the rider, that the feature and trail were in the exact same condtion as the last time it was ridden.... over time, rebuilding, the snow season ETC....... It was assumed the trails and features were in the same condition.........
Come on guys, how many of us have hammered the trails all day long at a resort and seen the trails change to unridable conditions throughout the day.......
I dont claim that my personal saftey isnt my own responsiblity. I took a calculated risk that the landing would be clear and it wasnt. I'm over the ruined helmet (better that than my head). I dont buy that that trail was ever closed, but im over that too. I was pretty pissed yesterday when I got home and wrote the post. BTW, I didnt take the pictures. Another rider did and sent them to me. I know that this close call has me re-examining my riding practices. I can only hope that Diablo pays closer attention and something like this does not happen again. All of us who ride want to see our parks florish, not get put out of business by being careless. I would be devistated if they closed for any reason. I wouldnt sue them but who's to say the next guy wont.
Here is the point I don't get. The OP said that Anthem was listed as open. WHERE!??
Nowhere does Diablo list Anthem as an open or closed trail. Like Shawn mentioned, its an offshoot of Tempest, which was listed as open.
Thats where the OP and others opinions blaming Diablo kinda breaks down for me. If you are riding a trail/feature with NO LISTED STATUS, use your fvcking head and some personal responsibility to scope it out first.
Nowhere does Diablo list Anthem as an open or closed trail. Like Shawn mentioned, its an offshoot of Tempest, which was listed as open.
Thats where the OP and others opinions blaming Diablo kinda breaks down for me. If you are riding a trail/feature with NO LISTED STATUS, use your fvcking head and some personal responsibility to scope it out first.
Just thoughts to think about
If Anthem is not a listed trail and OP assumed it was open because Tempest was, then OP was negligent.
Assumptions doesn't only make an ass of U and me, assumptions kill a lot of people too.
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Thrown out? Interesting. I always heard that they and USAC spent mid 7 figures defending the one big suit, but won. I'd imagine your first hand source is probably more reliable then my 10th hand though.
OP: How old are you? I'm just curious.
Why was the trail closed? Besides the sticks it looked ok to me.
Oh yeah USAC spent alot of money defending, just because it was thrown out does not mean there wasnt alot of money spent on legal......There was indeed alot of money lost to get BB clear.....
I was at Diablo yesterday. We were riding Tempest and I took a friend over to show him the drop, things were cleared by then. I can certainly see BOTH points. If those sticks were lying in a landing on Dominion, I'd totally understand. All the hits off the sides of the trail? I like to Err on safety and check things out as it is opening weekend. Funny thing is... if this happened at Platty, everyone would be saying... "It's Platty, would you expect otherwise?"
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Whats funny is that some people are saying that about Diablo in this thread....
Zane this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard come out of your mouth. You have ridden there and I'm sure your aware that the Anthem drop is hardly a separate feature from Tempest it is simply part of the trail. With your logic if Dominion is open you should still examine every single jump before you jump it. Let me know the last time you did that.
Considering some of our conversations, that is quite the achievement.
But.... I wouldn't compare the jumps on dominion to the drop on anthem. one is butter and easy, the other is sketchy and the landing is always blown out (as your last little biff on that very drop can attest to
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I think Diablo has made a turn for the worst. I have been going there since it reopened and it was much better years ago. Utah great trail closed for a half asked hip jump? Kill a whole trail for 1 dumb thing. There has been a lot of work done there but I has lost the flavor it originally had. The original BMW, Triple Drop, Dirt Merchant, Deliverance, Morning Wood, Evil Bob anyway I see why a lot of the old riders gave up on it. Unfortunately Vertical Earth had potential.
FWIW for riders outside of diablo, Anthem is hardly popular, and is a "seperate option" off the side of the trail, you ride tempest for 40 seconds to a minute, than you can turn onto anthem, or more popularly, rip the bottom of tempest which consists of high speed tables and rollers. I can see where the OP made the mistake since tempest was open, but i dont doubt that anthem was on the back of diablos list, i almost NEVER hit anthem, it kills the flow of the trail, and than you have to merge back onto it on the high speed section. It sucks for the OP, because i am sure i could have made that mistake, but i guess it just goes to show, better to look before you leap(for right or wrong)