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Cheney: 'I'm the Guy Who Pulled the Trigger'
Wednesday, February 15, 2006
By Jane Roh


NEW YORK — Vice President Dick Cheney said he and he alone was responsible for a weekend hunting accident that left a 78-year-old attorney hospitalized.

"Ultimately I'm the guy who pulled the trigger, that fired the round that hit Harry," Cheney said in his first interview since the incident. "I'm the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend."

Cheney's first interview about his accidental shooting of a man in the face comes more than 72 hours after it occurred. The interview will be broadcast on "Special Report With Brit Hume" at 6 p.m. EST.

Austin attorney Harry Whittington, the man Cheney shot on Saturday, was in stable condition on Wednesday, hospital officials said. But the 78-year-old was moved back into the intensive care unit because of concerns for his privacy.

"He's doing extremely well," said Peter Banko, administrator of Christus Spohn Hospital Memorial in Corpus Christi, Texas.

Speaking to reporters alongside David Blanchard, one of Whittington's doctors, Banko said that Whittington was tired but able to sit up and eat food.

Whittington suffered a minor heart attack Tuesday morning due to a birdshot pellet that had migrated to his heart. Banko would not comment on how many BBs remained in Whittington's body, but said of the ammunition lodged in Whittington's heart, "We're 100 percent satisfied that where the BB is it will remain."

Blanchard said Whittington was recovering well from the heart attack but would be closely monitored over the next six days and possibly longer. Whittington is "hemodynamically stable," meaning his blood circulation is normal, which is "the best situation you could possibly have."

When asked if their patient would be tuning in to the vice president's first on-air interview about the shooting, Banko said, "There is no television in his room at this point in time."

While the story has launched innumerable jokes from comic strips and late-night comedy shows, the narrative took a decidedly more somber tone Tuesday when Whittington's condition turned for the worse.

Following news of the heart attack, pressure intensified for Cheney to publicly discuss the shooting. Cheney and his aides have been silent since the incident occurred Saturday, and the White House has come under fire for waiting nearly 24 hours to acknowledge the incident had even occurred.

"I believe the vice president should hold a press conference to talk about the incident in Texas and the other things," Harry Reid, D-Nev., said after meeting with Cheney, President Bush and other congressional leaders Wednesday morning. The Senate minority leader stressed that Cheney had not given a press conference since 2002.

"I guess I'm kind of old-fashioned. I think he hasn't had a press conference in three-and-a-half years ... it's time to have one. It's not just the hunting incident, it's — I think you folks have a lot of questions you'd like to ask him," Reid said.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration of running a closed government that disrespects the public.

"Open government would demand that the vice president come clean on what happened there. Our hearts and our prayers, every night, go out to the gentleman who was hurt in this incident ... But we have to break this habit of the administration of closed government without the openness that is healthy for a democracy," Pelosi, D-Calif., said.

Asked whether she had brought up her views on the hunting incident with the vice president, Pelosi said she brought up Hurricane Katrina instead "because it is a very big issue for our country, and it's one that needs immediate attention and has an impact on so many lives in the country."

Republicans, too, have been quietly complaining about the vice president's unwillingness to explain publicly what occurred during the weekend hunting trip.

Vin Weber, a former Minnesota Republican representative, told The Washington Post: "I cannot believe he does not look back and say this should have been handled differently."

Whittington was hit with more than 200 birdshot pellets by Cheney, an experienced hunter, at Armstrong Ranch, a 50,000-acre property in south Texas that is known as one of the best quail-hunting sites in the state. Not aware that his hunting partner had returned from retrieving a bird he had shot, Cheney turned right to shoot a covey of quail and sprayed his hunting partner with shotgun pellets instead.

Carlos Valdez, district attorney of the county in which the shooting occurred, told the Corpus Christi Caller-Times on Wednesday that he did not foresee a criminal investigation. An incident report from the Kenedy County Sheriff's Office is pending.

In only its second public acknowledgment of the incident, the vice president's office issued a statement on Tuesday saying Cheney had called Whittington around 1:30 p.m. EST to check on him.

"The vice president wished Mr. Whittington well and asked if there was anything he needed. The vice president said that he stood ready to assist. Mr. Whittington's spirits were good, but obviously his situation deserves the careful monitoring that his doctors are providing. The vice president said that his thoughts and prayers are with Mr. Whittington and his family," the statement read.

The vice president's only other statement since Saturday concerned his lack of a Texas Parks and Wildlife Department stamp for hunting game birds, which was publicized following the shooting. The statement said Cheney had mailed a $7 check to the department for a stamp, but did not mention Whittington or the shooting.
 

jimmydean

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...His condition has been upgraded from "stable" to "stable, but still SHOT IN THE FACE"...

That was some funny sh!t right there.
 

Old Man G Funk

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Ciaran said:
I don't understand what the big deal is. It was a hunting accident, they happen.
One thing is the irony of it.

The big deal, however, is that they sat on it, thus giving at least the appearance of trying to cover it up. Added to how secretive the Admin. has been ever since they came to power, and naturally people are going to think they have something to hide.
 

Ciaran

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stinkyboy said:
The VP of the USA was drinking and shot a man at close range with a shotgun ain't a big deal?!
Not if he's on vacation.

Like none of you ever went drinkin' and shootin'!
 

N8 v2.0

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Old Man G Funk said:
One thing is the irony of it.

The big deal, however, is that they sat on it, thus giving at least the appearance of trying to cover it up. Added to how secretive the Admin. has been ever since they came to power, and naturally people are going to think they have something to hide.

You're just mad that Dick hasn't banged you yet, aintcha..?
 

blt2ride

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Ciaran said:
I don't understand what the big deal is. It was a hunting accident, they happen.
I agree—it was an accident. Now, if Dick shot someone who cut him off on the freeway that would be a big deal. Dick actually showed some emotion (well, for Dick it was emotion) during the interview. I truly believe that Dick feels absolutely terrible about what happened and is extremely embarrassed by the whole ordeal.

“I’m the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend.” He took full responsibility for the accident…
 

Old Man G Funk

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blt2ride said:
I agree—it was an accident. Now, if Dick shot someone who cut him off on the freeway that would be a big deal. Dick actually showed some emotion (well, for Dick it was emotion) during the interview. I truly believe that Dick feels absolutely terrible about what happened and is extremely embarrassed by the whole ordeal.

“I’m the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend.” He took full responsibility for the accident…
Except now he admits that he had some beer. Maybe he had more beer than he's telling us, and he had to cover it up so that it wouldn't get out that he was drunk when he did it? It's all just conjecture of course, and there would be no way to prove it now. But, that's the point. By sitting on it and keeping it quiet, it looks like he's hiding something, and that's the big deal. We are supposed to have an open government, but this administration has stonewalled on all kinds of topics, and this is just another to add to the growing list.
 

N8 v2.0

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Old Man G Funk said:
Except now he admits that he had some beer. Maybe he had more beer than he's telling us, and he had to cover it up so that it wouldn't get out that he was drunk when he did it? It's all just conjecture of course, and there would be no way to prove it now. But, that's the point. By sitting on it and keeping it quiet, it looks like he's hiding something, and that's the big deal. We are supposed to have an open government, but this administration has stonewalled on all kinds of topics, and this is just another to add to the growing list.

So what? Drinking a beer then going hunting ain't illeagal.
 

Old Man G Funk

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N8 said:
So what? Drinking a beer then going hunting ain't illeagal.
But hunting while intoxicated probably is. Maybe he just had one beer, maybe he had a lot more. Maybe he kept it under wraps so that the police wouldn't be able to charge him with being drunk while he shot his friend.

It's like the wiretapping. If he has nothing to hide, why hide it?
 

N8 v2.0

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Old Man G Funk said:
But hunting while intoxicated probably is. Maybe he just had one beer, maybe he had a lot more. Maybe he kept it under wraps so that the police wouldn't be able to charge him with being drunk while he shot his friend.

It's like the wiretapping. If he has nothing to hide, why hide it?

I suggest Teddy Kennedy head up that investigation....
 

N8 v2.0

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Old Man G Funk said:
Nice try, but what Ted Kennedy has or has not done in the past has no bearing on what Dick Cheney just did. Try not to use any more red herrings.

Who better to investigate the killing of friends whilst drunk than ol' Teddy?

I mean come on here... he would be the most qualified Dim to do it.
 

Old Man G Funk

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N8 said:
Who better to investigate the killing of friends whilst drunk than ol' Teddy?

I mean come on here... he would be the most qualified Dim to do it.
Once again quit with the red herrings. It shows that you have no actual logical argument to make. What Ted Kennedy has or has not done has NO bearing on the current situation.

Fact: Dick Cheney sat on this.
Fact: The administration has been secretive since they came to power.
The question is why. Why do they have to be so secretive? What do they have to hide? Some things have already come out, and it makes one wonder what's being hidden here.
 

blt2ride

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Old Man G Funk said:
But hunting while intoxicated probably is. Maybe he just had one beer, maybe he had a lot more. Maybe he kept it under wraps so that the police wouldn't be able to charge him with being drunk while he shot his friend.

It's like the wiretapping. If he has nothing to hide, why hide it?
I could certainly see your point of view; Dick’s behavior after the accident could lead one to believe that there was some deception on his part. However, with all of Dick’s health problems, I don’t know that he would be in a position to drink heavily. I could be wrong, he may have been drunk, but we’ll never know.

I’ll be honest, I’m not a fan of the Bush administration and I’m not a big hunting fan; although, Dick was hunting on private property with some friends while vacationing. If Dick didn’t summon help for his injured friend it would be a different story. Since a medical team goes everywhere with Dick, the help was there and the injured hunter received immediate medical treatment.

There are dozens of reasons why Dick didn’t address his accident immediately after it occurred. One reason, he may have been looking for direction from his boss…
 

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blt2ride said:
There are dozens of reasons why Dick didn’t address his accident immediately after it occurred. One reason, he may have been looking for direction from his boss…
Beelzebub?
 

Old Man G Funk

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blt2ride said:
I could certainly see your point of view; Dick’s behavior after the accident could lead one to believe that there was some deception on his part. However, with all of Dick’s health problems, I don’t know that he would be in a position to drink heavily. I could be wrong, he may have been drunk, but we’ll never know.

I’ll be honest, I’m not a fan of the Bush administration and I’m not a big hunting fan; although, Dick was hunting on private property with some friends while vacationing. If Dick didn’t summon help for his injured friend it would be a different story. Since a medical team goes everywhere with Dick, the help was there and the injured hunter received immediate medical treatment.

There are dozens of reasons why Dick didn’t address his accident immediately after it occurred. One reason, he may have been looking for direction from his boss…
He didn't inform the white house right away either.
 

N8 v2.0

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Old Man G Funk said:
Once again quit with the red herrings. It shows that you have no actual logical argument to make. What Ted Kennedy has or has not done has NO bearing on the current situation.

Fact: Dick Cheney sat on this.
Fact: The administration has been secretive since they came to power.
The question is why. Why do they have to be so secretive? What do they have to hide? Some things have already come out, and it makes one wonder what's being hidden here.

Man... it's going to be so much fun to be here on RM when the next presidential election happens and another Republican president is in the White House... I hope its Ms. Rice or Dick Cheney....


I want to see your brain implode like H8R's did last time... :p
 

Old Man G Funk

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N8 said:
Man... it's going to be so much fun to be here on RM when the next presidential election happens and another Republican president is in the White House... I hope its Ms. Rice or Dick Cheney....


I want to see your brain implode like H8R's did last time... :p
What about Jeb or McCain?
 

Ciaran

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DaveW said:
Well I have not done that.
Always sober when shooting, alcohol and guns is a fvcking moronic mix. :mumble:
That's why when shooting while drunk I always stand behind everyone else. It can be tough lugging around the guns and the ice chest though. But it's either that or drink warm beer, which never makes shooting fun.
N8 said:
Man... it's going to be so much fun to be here on RM when the next presidential election happens and another Republican president is in the White House... I hope its Ms. Rice or Dick Cheney....
Nah... Ms. Rice is too black AND too female, and ol Dickie boy will likely have a heart attack and die before then.

Personally I am waiting for Bush to declare some sort of emergency, and abolish the next elections. El Busho the dictator!