Disadvantages of Boxxer on YT Capra
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Those german tests are rather bs. They test a lot of shit in specific isolated conditions. I remember some brake tests and they made no sense. Also it's the same newspaper that back in the day used to highly rate some really REALLY bad bikes (including my old old dh bike)
My 2010 Boxxer has an AVY cart! It is probably rusty by now... I haven't touched it in 4 years.
i did not really wanted to derail the conversation to a boxxer vs fox 40 thread, I’m grateful for all the input but honestly my point was simply how much of a climbing/enduro capability am I gone to lose by mounting the lightest dh fork available vs single crown forks that between coils and big legs are starting to weigh as much as the boxxer (see the new 38 fork).
you get the advantage of adjusting the stack height if needed, the stem is always straight
and the front end feels tighter but I wanted to hear what others fellow riders think in case I’m missing something.
if i had the terrain around here to justify doing so i would absolutely run a dual crown fork on a trail bike. again i'll mention that i am generally willing to make the tradeoff of weight for strength/stiffness.i did not really wanted to derail the conversation to a boxxer vs fox 40 thread, I’m grateful for all the input but honestly my point was simply how much of a climbing/enduro capability am I gone to lose by mounting the lightest dh fork available vs single crown forks that between coils and big legs are starting to weigh as much as the boxxer (see the new 38 fork).
you get the advantage of adjusting the stack height if needed, the stem is always straight
hab and i had some discussions about the 38 before it was official, that it would have been cool if it was a dual crown fork. <edit> on the subject of dual crown enduro/trail forks, as much as i like the idea, i'm not entirely convinced that such a fork could be manufactured that is lighter than a DH fork and stiffer than a long travel single crown, all while being at a price point people are willing to pay. i think it could be done, but likely would be prohibitively expensive</edit>
mojo is/was working on a dual crown conversion kit for the 36, but the conversion kit was as expensive as the fork itself.
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I've had a 40 on my G16 for 2+ years now and that's been a problem like, twice. So, yeah, in theory it's a thing that could happen, but it hasn't caused me any issues whatsoever.
It's for sure only happened climbing. If I tried to go down something that dumb I'd probably just give up and quit riding.
That's pretty much how I view everyone who wears oakley blades and a fanny pack in public.
Which is now apparently everyone.
God damn it, now I'm picturing you wearing nothing but that as some kind of weird kink of yours.
Singlecrowns are much less stiff than a DC, and a Lyrik is a complete joke compared to a Fox 40 in that respect, so what you're feeling is absolutely not psychological. It's also normal for an equal-travel DC fork to have 10mm lower A2C (often even better) than an SC so you can usually run greater travel for equal geometry.
I also agree with your choice of the Boxxer (though I ride a coil 40), the Fox air spring is inferior as you say, and the weight reduction however small is important on a trail bike. You know what you're doing, you know what you're feeling, I say go for it.
Just make sure the fork bumper situation is solid so you don't damage your frame, I hope long travel trailbikes start coming with inbuilt fork bumpers soon.
The new Boxxers feel great. Also the low offset boxers have very little turning radius, btw. I’ve ridden one. If you have a frame with a thick top and down tube then the turning radius will be sub optimal. Also, I can get a lower bar height on a 40 than a 180mm 38.
and there is still the MORC 36, anyone has the ETA for that one?
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I don’t get it, offset differs by different rake the tubes have the same position so the radius should be the same for both offset no?
The one I rode had the reduced offset in the crown. Like the tubes were further back connecting earlier with the bumpers on the frame.
46mm (29"), 56mm (29"), 36mm (27.5"), 46mm (27.5")
2 different crowns and 2 different lowers I think.
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I did *NOT* say I was into it.
You didn't NOT not say you were into it.
boxxers change offsets with crowns not castings? Makes sense I guess.
boxxers change offsets with crowns not castings? Makes sense I guess.
For maximum turning radius, get the crowns with the most offset. Then mount the lowers back to front in order to shorten the offset.
This will put you in a win-win-win situation: high turning radius, mega short offset and a rad looking bike! What's not to like?
This will put you in a win-win-win situation: high turning radius, mega short offset and a rad looking bike! What's not to like?
watching my brake caliper fly off 4ft in front of me can only happen once.What's not to like?
Just change the oil and it will be golden. I'm still on a 2010 boxxer with avy inside.