Disappointed by the Beasties...
- Thread starter Tenchiro
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Yeah, I saw that too.... totally turned me off from buying it, I'll just DL it from someone who gets around it
Get with it people, it's their label.
so how does the copy-protection software work? is it just for the beasties cd, or for other cds too? how many times can you rip a cd to the hard drive?
Tenchiro said:
What softwear did u use? i use musicmatch do you think that would work?
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It isn't sneaking if they aren't trying to hide that they've put the software on the CDs. And yea, it is their label so they can pretty much do what they want.
Hey, at least they don't like George Bush. The Beastie Boys rule.
Hey, at least they don't like George Bush. The Beastie Boys rule.
DHiDave said:
Actually it is Capitol Records. Secondly it's my computer and screw them if they think they can do whatever they want to my computer.edo-chan said:
They should give a standard Windows installation w/ license agreement as to give people a choice to opt out.
I have Nero 6 Ultra, I ripped the tracks into MP3 format, then converted them to CDDA on a new CD and it seems to play fine/escapeartist said:
Capital is just the parent company that distributes. They own the Grand Royale label.
Are you sure? I just looked over the entire CD & Cover and didn't see any mention of Grand Royale. Not that it matters, nothing gives them the right to install software on someones computer without their knowledge & consent.DHiDave said:
So if you want to bypass the copyright protection kids, just hold down the shift key when you put the CD in your computer. Or turn off Autoplay. They say if you get a US or UK copy of the disc there is no copy protection though, which probably explains why it was so easy to rip.
But the US version is still not in a proper error checking format, and I swear I can hear alot of imperfections, but they may just be in the music...
Tenchiro said:
THAT CD IS THIER WORST EFFORT EVER!
It is a far site better than Hello Nasty, but I have to say it is no Paul's Botique.black sunshine said:THAT CD IS THIER WORST EFFORT EVER!
the program the CD installs prohibits your computer from burning music off ANY CD you EVER out into it from that point on. BUT if you have windows XP hold down the shift key while inserting the disc and it will disable the autorun that installs it. Many other CDs are going to come with this hidden program in the future, so its a good idea to hold the shift key down when putting in any new CD from now on.
BTW i do think the new CD is great
BTW i do think the new CD is great
ViolentVolante said:
Um, no. Not sure where you heard that.
This technology is nothing new; Radiohead, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and numerous other groups have done this in the past. It's not hidden either, there is an emblem on the cd that identifies it as having this software, check your cd case and cd.
You can also look for an absence of the "CD" logo. Phillips is pretty picky about what qualifies to use it. If it is missing it means they have been playing with the checksums and can't guarantee error free playback. Which is another way they have been trying to stop people from copying stuff.Batman said:
Well according to that article the infected CD is not distributed in the US or UK so none of you should have any problem with it. I can almost understand shipping a cd that messes up a computer to countries like Vietnam or India where you can go and buy CD's from the market for $.50 each which obviously means that someone is having a great time copying them.
But I still don't agree with it. It would really piss me off to have my computer affected by a CD that i bought!
But I still don't agree with it. It would really piss me off to have my computer affected by a CD that i bought!
Motionboy2 said:
Don't forget our brothers to the North, Canada got them too.
Hello Nasty was far better than this album...sounds like they just took everything from the last 2 albums and recycled it...I was pretty dissapointed...
Tom
Tom
Huh...so I burned this Faith No More CD this weekend...when I tried to play it in my truck, it sounded like it was kinda fading out here and there...is that whats happening with the new cds that you burn? I guess that's what I get for being a theivin music stealer 
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I stole some Dwight Yoakam this weekend and it works. It plays like ass in the cd-rom, but ok on everything else. 
why do you people still think it is okay to steal? If this software annoys you, think of how annoying it is to pour your heart and soul into something only to have it stolen and therefore you lose lot's of money! WEEEEEEEEEEEEAK!!!! People think because digital copying doesn't remove the original that somehow it's "sharing" not stealing. Sharing is splitting something up using part of it, not reproducing it and distributing it w/o permission!!!! If you could put a bike part into a machine and reproduce it quickly and cheaply don't you think manufacturers like Thomson, Chris King, etc. would be rightfully pissed? This is no different... I don't want to hear any crap about record execs getting fatter, that's sadly true but this isn't the way to combat that problem. This behavior will hurt artists and low level industry people more than high level execs. So what if the record co's are stooping to your level to try to protect what they legally own in the first place. You guys are all pissed that they would have the nerve to install software on your computer without your permission..but what about you installing their songs onto your computer without their permission? It's no different, in the end you are still taking something that isn't yours, just because it's really easy, anonymous and you remain unaccountable doesn't overcome that one simple fact...
You are partially correct...the bands see VERY little of the money from record sales...most goes to the record companies...most of the bands money comes from touring...there are tons of musicians who support file sharing...
If I like a CD I DL I go buy it...if not I don't...I'm not gonna go spend $19 for a CD to find that there is only one good song...I have to many of those which are now becoming coasters...
Tom
If I like a CD I DL I go buy it...if not I don't...I'm not gonna go spend $19 for a CD to find that there is only one good song...I have to many of those which are now becoming coasters...
Tom
Also legally you have the right to copy the CD AND to rip it as long as you don't share it...
Tom
Tom
punkassean said:
Actually I was just making a backup copy for my car...
punkassean said:
Umm yeah, essentially this software limits the functionality of my property without my knowledge or consent, so yeah f*ck that. Not to mention that it restricts people from legal uses of the music they purchased such as ripping the CD to an iPod.
All this kind of thing does is piss off their customers, it won't stop or slow down piracy.
if you aren't doing it then my comments don't apply to you...
Of course you can back-up data! sheezus!!! I'm not talking about legally backing up data (that you own) which makes perfect sense. I also think that making a mix CD compiled of various bands to give to a friend to turn them on to it and maybe one day buy an album is great! Most bands have .mp3's for download on their website available for free not to mention that most record stores have listening stations for new releases and will let you listen to any used CD they have. There are also reviews in mags and online for you to read and formulate opinions. So why, once you have burned a CD and end up liking it, would you be motivated to then go purchase it? All the "excuses" listed above are just that...excuses! They don't address the problem at hand. Whether the bands make a lot of money or a little money off of the record or from touring is somewhat irrelevant, the bands entered a contract detailing those things and you by burning the disc have unanimously superceded that contract. From what I understand, bands are required to use the money from record sales (which is pennies on the dollar, something like a nickel for every record for new bands and a dollar for bands like the Beasties in rough #'s) to pay for touring expenses, including obtaining venues, traveling, food etc. that is why they don't end up clearing much $ in the end. After paying for all that misc. stuff. their multi million dollar contract becomes maybe 5% of what it started out as. blah blah blah all you like, but you should try thinking for yourself instead of just doing what you peers are doing blindly.
Of course you can back-up data! sheezus!!! I'm not talking about legally backing up data (that you own) which makes perfect sense. I also think that making a mix CD compiled of various bands to give to a friend to turn them on to it and maybe one day buy an album is great! Most bands have .mp3's for download on their website available for free not to mention that most record stores have listening stations for new releases and will let you listen to any used CD they have. There are also reviews in mags and online for you to read and formulate opinions. So why, once you have burned a CD and end up liking it, would you be motivated to then go purchase it? All the "excuses" listed above are just that...excuses! They don't address the problem at hand. Whether the bands make a lot of money or a little money off of the record or from touring is somewhat irrelevant, the bands entered a contract detailing those things and you by burning the disc have unanimously superceded that contract. From what I understand, bands are required to use the money from record sales (which is pennies on the dollar, something like a nickel for every record for new bands and a dollar for bands like the Beasties in rough #'s) to pay for touring expenses, including obtaining venues, traveling, food etc. that is why they don't end up clearing much $ in the end. After paying for all that misc. stuff. their multi million dollar contract becomes maybe 5% of what it started out as. blah blah blah all you like, but you should try thinking for yourself instead of just doing what you peers are doing blindly.
I totally agree with all of your above statement, but my point was they (record co.s) felt forced to stoop to that level due to illegal activity running rampant...Tenchiro said:
That doesn't make it right but it also doesn't make pirating right either...
My stance on Piracy;
If an album sucks, I want to know before I drop the coin on it. If I d/l a few songs and I dig the band, I go out and buy a CD. If I don't like what I hear the mp3's get deleted usually, or just forgotten. I download alot of music, but I never host.
One mans pirate is another mans smart consumer.
If an album sucks, I want to know before I drop the coin on it. If I d/l a few songs and I dig the band, I go out and buy a CD. If I don't like what I hear the mp3's get deleted usually, or just forgotten. I download alot of music, but I never host.
One mans pirate is another mans smart consumer.
I just download all the music I want for free. I dont care.
