[DRB]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/01/22/king.controversy.ap/index.html

The gist of it is that a group of students put posters encouraging the award for a white South African student. They put the posters up on MLK Day. Now they are in trouble.

 

[ummbikes]

Crazy kids.

I think people are going to make this a race issue and it may be just that.

I think it's more likely that some sarcastic smart kids wanted to exploit a loophole and make a statement about giving awards based on race. Who knows, we'll have to wait for the book and mini-series to find out.

 

[RhinofromWA]

Tylena Martin, a junior, said the poster had been on the door to her homeroom class where she is the only black student. She said she felt hurt by the posters and the backlash that ensued.

What backlash?

Smart ass white boys makinga point and The Man has to come down and silence his ass..:angry:

Just another example of society holding the white man back.

 

[LordOpie]

I totally support those kids -- based on what little info I have. If the award is vaguely "African-American" and the white kid is from S.Africa then he should be qualifed. Period.

 

[$tinkle]

Originally posted by DRB
http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/01/22/king.controversy.ap/index.html

The gist of it is that a group of students put posters encouraging the award for a white South African student. They put the posters up on MLK Day. Now they are in trouble.

i'll defer all opinions to colin quinn & the panel of Tough Crowd

 

[manimal]

Originally posted by LordOpie
I totally support those kids -- based on what little info I have. If the award is vaguely "African-American" and the white kid is from S.Africa then he should be qualifed. Period.

good point, and to bring up another question: when does ones lineage filter out? i mean, with the exception of native americans, we're all some form of hyphenated american. for instance, i'm native-irish-german-american....should i get special scholarships too? i don't see our nation ever coming together as a whole until we stop distinguishing ourselves amongst one another. african/asian/latin/anglo..........american should be simply labeled as AMERICAN-AMERICAN.

 

[CRUM]

The very fact that an award is given to someone based on the color of their skin helps to keep the idea of racism alive. Recognizing MLK on his B-day is one thing, but to tie in an award just feeds the fire. Any award given out in a high school with a multi racial population that is not color blind is, IMO, racist.

 

[valve bouncer]

Awww gee, poor whitey is gettin' the shaft again, cry me a f*cken river

 

[fluff]

Originally posted by valve bouncer
Awww gee, poor whitey is gettin' the shaft again, cry me a f*cken river

Yeah, this thread is clearly the preserve of the oppressed.

Come and see the repression of the white middle-classes.

 

[MMike]

Originally posted by fluff
Yeah, this thread is clearly the preserve of the oppressed.

Come and see the repression of the white middle-classes.

Come see the violence inherent in the system!! Help help I'm being repressed!!

 

[manimal]

Originally posted by valve bouncer
Awww gee, poor whitey is gettin' the shaft again, cry me a f*cken river

it has nothing to do with "oppression" or any of that crap, it's simply the fact that nothing will change as long as we're still segregating by american sub cultures. for instance, if you ever came to live in the states VB, i'd call you an AMERICAN, not PANSY-AMERICAN, even though that's your background:devil:

 

[ummbikes]

Originally posted by fluff
Yeah, this thread is clearly the preserve of the oppressed.

Come and see the repression of the white middle-classes.

Woo Hoo, I'm white middle class now!

This is exactly where I thought this would end up. It is damn near impossible to have a convesation about anything racial without it digressing into a pissing contest.

For the record I'm Chicano. This isn't about white people complaining about stuff, this particular case is about the PC police at this school overreacting. It's also about the embarasment of some adults at having their award for being black and smart challanged.

How does the award progress the discouse on race releations? It doesn't, what it does show is that in that school, black kids are singled out for their acheivments based on their race. How does that show equality?

At my college we have a student group for Chicano students which I have always refused to join for the same reason this award here is dumb, and that is it doesn't matter that a student is black, brown or white. I don't need to join a club that says "Yea, we are educated brown people, woo hoo!"

If the school wanted to do something to honor Dr. King thats great, he was one of our greatest Americans. King was about seeking equality.

 

[LordOpie]

Originally posted by ummbikes
This isn't about white people complaining about stuff, this particular case is about the PC police at this school overreacting. It's also about the embarasment of some adults at having their award for being black and smart challanged..

ditto.

I, personally, I'm cool with an award going only to black kids. There are all sorts of scholarships and such focused at different groups. I'm just tired of improper labelings. I know it's semantic, but A-A doesn't *just* refer to dark skin people and it's a silly and unfair label that exludes non-blacks from Africa. And it also excludes blacks who aren't from Africa.

And the admin at that school need to have some sense knocked into 'em.

 

[valve bouncer]

Originally posted by manimal
it has nothing to do with "oppression" or any of that crap, it's simply the fact that nothing will change as long as we're still segregating by american sub cultures. for instance, if you ever came to live in the states VB, i'd call you an AMERICAN, not PANSY-AMERICAN, even though that's your background:devil:

I can see that my comment went right over your head, like I expected it to. Just stay in the donut shop where the only thing you have to think about is chocolate or glazed:devil:

 

[manimal]

Originally posted by valve bouncer
I can see that my comment went right over your head, like I expected it to. Just stay in the donut shop where the only thing you have to think about is chocolate or glazed:devil:

mmmmmmm doughnuts............


....now what were we talking about?

 

[valve bouncer]

Originally posted by manimal
mmmmmmm doughnuts............


....now what were we talking about?

LOL....ya d*ckhead

 

[DRB]

Originally posted by manimal
mmmmmmm doughnuts............


....now what were we talking about?

Manimal knows how to spell doughnuts (not donuts you freakin' yankees).

And please notice his location, as the source of the BEST doughnuts in the world. That's right Krispy Kreme.

 

[manimal]

Originally posted by DRB
Manimal knows how to spell doughnuts (not donuts you freakin' yankees).

And please notice his location, as the source of the BEST doughnuts in the world. That's right Krispy Kreme.

people think i'm kidding about doughnuts....



my kitchen counter this morning.....

 

[dickiesbike1]

Originally posted by manimal
people think i'm kidding about doughnuts....



my kitchen counter this morning.....

Tell them about our normal spot to stop at after night urban rides

(besides yum yums)

 

[LordOpie]

Where was the birthplace of KK?

If I had to guess, I was gonna say Miami, FL, cuz I remember going to their main production plant down there as a child almost 30 yrs ago.

 

[manimal]

Originally posted by LordOpie
Where was the birthplace of KK?

If I had to guess, I was gonna say Miami, FL, cuz I remember going to their main production plant down there as a child almost 30 yrs ago.

winston salem, NC. i actually live/work in high point, nc now but winston is the next city over. imagine that...a city that is home to the best doughnuts in the world AND a HUGE tobacco maker; R.J. Reynolds aka Winston Salem Cigs.......even the cancer center at the hospital has a smoking deck donated by r.j. reynolds

ok, thread derailment over

 

[valve bouncer]

Originally posted by manimal
even the cancer center at the hospital has a smoking deck donated by r.j. reynolds

I'm sure if you went out on that deck you'd see a few diehards smoking through the holes in their throats. I used to work in a hospital and it freaked me out the first time I saw it.

 

[manimal]

Originally posted by valve bouncer
I'm sure if you went out on that deck you'd see a few diehards smoking through the holes in their throats. I used to work in a hospital and it freaked me out the first time I saw it.

[robot sounding trachia voice box] "them commies won't let me smoke inside so i have to sit out here in the freezing cold just to excercise my right to smoke..."