Quantcast

Does MADE the film exist in blue ray?

Uncle Cliffy

Turbo Monkey
Jan 28, 2008
4,490
42
Southern Oregon
virtuous was supposed to be released on blu-ray but not sure if it ever was.
I remember they were putting it out on HD-DVD, then the industry decided Bluray was the format of choice...

That would be sooooooooo bitchen!!! I wonder if they'll re-release the original Kranked series in Blu-Ray, that was the "Best Ever"!:D:p
"Ride to the Hills" on Bluray would be my vote.
 
Last edited:

yd35

Monkey
Oct 28, 2008
741
61
NY
Blu-ray is the future, but I have a feeling that producing movies in that format requires extra cash that may not make business sense for small, mtb films.
 

'size

Turbo Monkey
May 30, 2007
2,000
338
AZ
I remember they were putting it out on HD-DVD, then the industry decided Bluray was the format of choice...
i believe they were sort of waiting to see what happened, then when blu-ray won they were going with it.

march of 2008:
"Also we're planning to publish VIRTUOUS on Blu-Ray. We're in middle of negotiations and will inform you as soon as we have any news."

http://virtuous.ionatefilms.com/

obviously that never happened, but the dvd looks great anyway.
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
Blu-ray is the future,
I actually think it's already time to move away from it. Most people have some sort of high resolution 16:9 tv these days but blue ray is the only consumer format for buying what.......little plastic discs with movies on them? And so few cinematic productions even get put out on BR. I mean every single ski/snowboard or bike flick these days is getting shot with at the very minimum, awesome 720p cameras. Then that gets lost just so it can fit on a stupid DVD formatted disc. Or if you're lucky, they'll put the money into ALSO doing a blue ray run. But that's a hassle so most small operations doing these types of flicks don't bother.

That whole mess needs to go the way of the music CD. I'd love to just pay to download a true 1080 or 720 HD movie and skip whole plastic disc crap. But right now blue ray is the only way to watch those things in a high resolution format. Computer files like music mp3s would be SO much easier.
 

William42

fork ways
Jul 31, 2007
4,002
754
I actually think it's already time to move away from it. Most people have some sort of high resolution 16:9 tv these days but blue ray is the only consumer format for buying what.......little plastic discs with movies on them? And so few cinematic productions even get put out on BR. I mean every single ski/snowboard or bike flick these days is getting shot with at the very minimum, awesome 720p cameras. Then that gets lost just so it can fit on a stupid DVD formatted disc. Or if you're lucky, they'll put the money into ALSO doing a blue ray run. But that's a hassle so most small operations doing these types of flicks don't bother.

That whole mess needs to go the way of the music CD. I'd love to just pay to download a true 1080 or 720 HD movie and skip whole plastic disc crap. But right now blue ray is the only way to watch those things in a high resolution format. Computer files like music mp3s would be SO much easier.
100% truth right there.
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
I agree, but there's huge bandwidth issues...
Not really. I do exactly what I describe all the time. And I live in the woods compared to most people. Along with nice TVs, most people these days have pretty decent internet connections.

But even then, who's to say you can't get a thumbdrive mailed to you instead of a dvd from netflix?


we need ishow, or imovie, or iDVD, than somebody can make the limewire or frostwire equivalent.
The world definitely doesn't need anymore Mac bullshlt that's only usable in the little masturbatory steve jobs circles of the world. Some of us actually understand computers and don't need everything spoon fed to us like ibabyformula. But I do admit.....the success of itunes shows that my opinion doesn't mean squat in terms of bringing a system to market. :D

I mean blue ray itself is kind of a dumbed down, spoon fed version of getting HD format material out there anyway. There are other and better ways to do it though IMO.
 
Last edited:

davec113

Monkey
May 24, 2009
419
0
Not really. I do exactly what I describe all the time. And I live in the woods compared to most people. Along with nice TVs, most people these days have pretty decent internet connections.

But even then, who's to say you can't get a thumbdrive mailed to you instead of a dvd from netflix?
Here's a calculator:

http://www.numion.com/calculators/Time.html

A 2 layer Blu Ray DVD has a 100 gig capacity. My max dl speed using comcast top-level service (I max out around 1 Mbps) is 217 Hours. To retain a usable internest connection, the time required would almost double.
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
Here's a calculator:

http://www.numion.com/calculators/Time.html

A 2 layer Blu Ray DVD has a 100 gig capacity. My max dl speed using comcast top-level service (I max out around 1 Mbps) is 217 Hours. To retain a usable internest connection, the time required would almost double.
But I'm not talking about downloading blue ray formatted files. That's the point. ;)



But dood: 1Mbps???????? I get better than that in Tahoe.:confused:
 

IH8Rice

I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!
Aug 2, 2008
24,524
494
Im over here now
you mean those crafty japanese are holding out on us?
no, we've been hiding it in plain site...for those who know where to look. 100gb bluray discs are old news. theres been work on disc holding up to 400gb on 4 or more layers. plus theres other tech like holographic storage
 

yd35

Monkey
Oct 28, 2008
741
61
NY
no, we've been hiding it in plain site...for those who know where to look. 100gb bluray discs are old news. theres been work on disc holding up to 400gb on 4 or more layers. plus theres other tech like holographic storage
WOW, imagine the clarity of Naughy Teen Nymphos 18 in that format, not to mention the potential easter eggs!
 

IH8Rice

I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!
Aug 2, 2008
24,524
494
Im over here now
WOW, imagine the clarity of Naughy Teen Nymphos 18 in that format, not to mention the potential easter eggs!
clarity wont change until tv resolutions change. companies have been display 4Kx2K res for some time now and it looks stunning. a standard blu-ray disc already has enough capacity to hold content for that type of broadcast.
 

yd35

Monkey
Oct 28, 2008
741
61
NY
clarity wont change until tv resolutions change. companies have been display 4Kx2K res for some time now and it looks stunning. a standard blu-ray disc already has enough capacity to hold content for that type of broadcast.
thanks for raining on my parade. i guess i'll have to settle for blu-ray porn and all its mediocrity.
 

bdamschen

Turbo Monkey
Nov 28, 2005
3,378
157
Spreckels, CA
yes yes, everyone needs fiber to home and some sort of content delivery box with a huge amount storage so we can all experience the future of digital images. AT&T is already rolling out U-Verse in certain neighborhoods around here other than mine. The U 450 package is only $157 a month...

Until that becomes mainstream though, it sure would be nice if I could get the latest mt bike or moto or snowboard flick in blu ray.
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
low rez pron then? ;)
That simply wouldn't do. Nobody should put up with pixelated beaver.



There are all kinds of video compression formats you can use to get really good HD movies. I'd just like to be able to get them for bike and ski flicks without sitting around hoping the companies that put them out do a blue ray run. I don't have television service so something like that would make my (winter) life a little better.
 

Pete..

Monkey
Feb 11, 2009
450
0
Santa Cruz
yes yes, everyone needs fiber to home and some sort of content delivery box with a huge amount storage so we can all experience the future of digital images. AT&T is already rolling out U-Verse in certain neighborhoods around here other than mine. The U 450 package is only $157 a month...

Until that becomes mainstream though, it sure would be nice if I could get the latest mt bike or moto or snowboard flick in blu ray.
Screw AT&T. They suck. There has been 2-3 AT&T trucks at the end of my street at the box for at least 4 months. My internet connection has been getting progressively sheeeeeeeettier by the day. This morning it was cutting out every 10 minutes while I was trying to do my online class. I'd do a page of work and then the internet would die and the router would say there was no internet connection to it, so I'd have to wait for the connection to come up again and then reconnect and on to the next page of work. It was sooooooooooooooooo annoying. I called them and they said they checked the connection and everything was 'A-Okay', running 'smoothly' and 'the packet flow is normal and typical'. Rightttttt. Don't even get me started about their cellphone service. I really don't understand why we still use them.


Anyways to make this post some what relevant, NWD9 on BluRay was legittttttttt. I wish Freeride released Rampage 2008 on BluRay. I would have bought that in a jiffy. The heli shots would have looked so freakin' dope.
 

Uncle Cliffy

Turbo Monkey
Jan 28, 2008
4,490
42
Southern Oregon
A compressed HD movie ala MP3??? I'm not understanding how you could compress something with so much information without losing some clarity.

I've been involved with car audio in the past, but not for the last few years. I'm not saying I'm an electronics engineer or anything, but I know that trying to demo a system with compressed music files is similar to installing a record player in your dash... Audiophiles can usually tell the difference so I assume you would be able to tell on your 1080p TV...?
 

IH8Rice

I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!
Aug 2, 2008
24,524
494
Im over here now
A compressed HD movie ala MP3??? I'm not understanding how you could compress something with so much information without losing some clarity.

I've been involved with car audio in the past, but not for the last few years. I'm not saying I'm an electronics engineer or anything, but I know that trying to demo a system with compressed music files is similar to installing a record player in your dash... Audiophiles can usually tell the difference so I assume you would be able to tell on your 1080p TV...?
most HD movies are compressed in a format similar to mp3, though its not as compressed as a MP3. you could cut down on the size by limited the audio format to stereo or something besides DTS or Dolby.

i like your analogy though. when i sold car audio, people would be pissed when their multi thousand dollar system sounded like crap with horrible mp3 music.
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
I've been involved with car audio in the past, but not for the last few years. I'm not saying I'm an electronics engineer or anything, but I know that trying to demo a system with compressed music files is similar to installing a record player in your dash... Audiophiles can usually tell the difference so I assume you would be able to tell on your 1080p TV...?
That's definitely a valid point. I've given up on trying to point out how crappy most mp3 audio files sound.

But blue ray as it stands IS relying on a compressed format anyway. You really can't get away from it because film transfers or raw HD footage is gigantic. I'd have to look a little deeper and I'm not sure I could even figure the compression out, but I've got some 1080 dowloaded movies that look great on my idiot box. It's being done, although not entirely on the up and up in all cases. I think netflix has some HD downloads available. I seem to remember my girlfriend getting one or two. I'd love to just go to the website of the guys that did MADE and get the same. Even if it wasn't the most efficient compression, I could load it during the day or at night and get the full glory.
 

Uncle Cliffy

Turbo Monkey
Jan 28, 2008
4,490
42
Southern Oregon
most HD movies are compressed in a format similar to mp3, though its not as compressed as a MP3. you could cut down on the size by limited the audio format to stereo or something besides DTS or Dolby.

i like your analogy though. when i sold car audio, people would be pissed when their multi thousand dollar system sounded like crap with horrible mp3 music.
Watching movies in stereo instead of DTS? Blasphemy! :rofl: I do have a modest home theatre and I can tell a difference between Dolby TruHD and DTS. Honestly, I sometimes won't watch certain movies if the sound isn't DTS... (Not that that even matters when it comes to action videos.)

That's definitely a valid point. I've given up on trying to point out how crappy most mp3 audio files sound.

But blue ray as it stands IS relying on a compressed format anyway. You really can't get away from it because film transfers or raw HD footage is gigantic. I'd have to look a little deeper and I'm not sure I could even figure the compression out, but I've got some 1080 dowloaded movies that look great on my idiot box. It's being done, although not entirely on the up and up in all cases. I think netflix has some HD downloads available. I seem to remember my girlfriend getting one or two. I'd love to just go to the website of the guys that did MADE and get the same. Even if it wasn't the most efficient compression, I could load it during the day or at night and get the full glory.
Agreed. If the picture's clear then I'm stoked on the idea. VAS should consider doing this... (I'm sure they've already thought about it.)
 

bdamschen

Turbo Monkey
Nov 28, 2005
3,378
157
Spreckels, CA
You realize you're typing on one right now right? :D
Mine only has a 13" screen and 160gb of storage space.
Sure I can hook my pc up to my TV, and that's cool, but...

Seeing as how I can fit 50 gb worth of data on a dual layer blu ray disc, my storage device that I currently use would be maxed out in about 3 movies.

If you want higher than Blu Ray quality movies, you'd need even more space.
 

IH8Rice

I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!
Aug 2, 2008
24,524
494
Im over here now
Seeing as how I can fit 50 gb worth of data on a dual layer blu ray disc, my storage device that I currently use would be maxed out in about 3 movies.

If you want higher than Blu Ray quality movies, you'd need even more space.
the movies you have are no in no way near 50gb. blu-ray movies themselves dont even fill up a disc to anywhere near its capacity.
plus, theres nothing out there recording higher than blu-ray right now besides a handful of 4Kx2K cameras
 

bdamschen

Turbo Monkey
Nov 28, 2005
3,378
157
Spreckels, CA
the movies you have are no in no way near 50gb. blu-ray movies themselves dont even fill up a disc to anywhere near its capacity.
plus, theres nothing out there recording higher than blu-ray right now besides a handful of 4Kx2K cameras
I figured as much. Why would they need compression then? How could online (downloadable/stream-able) content possibly ever compete with blu ray on a quality level?
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
I figured as much. Why would they need compression then? How could online (downloadable/stream-able) content possibly ever compete with blu ray on a quality level?
What he means is that most cameras are recording 1080 or 720 resolution images, both of which are covered by blue ray broadcast standards. And that as it sits, most 2h movies packaged within those perameters don't take up near the space of 50g.

He's not saying there's no other compression format that equals or betters the quality of blue ray. Because there is at the very least, equal. I've been making high def rips of some stuff off my camera and it looks straight retarded awsome™ on my tv. Nothing blue ray about the formatting either.

Hell I don't care what format it is that much. I just want access to better quality movies. Downloading a 5gig file is no big deal. You can get decent h.264 rips in various ways that look damn good.
 

limitedslip

Monkey
Jul 11, 2007
173
1
You can stream HD-DVD quality movies using an Xbox 360. I watched Micheal Clayton at my sister's place, it only took about half an hour to buffer.