Westy said:My pup is part pitbull, and he is great. Loves kitties.
Part...........key word.
Pits are great dogs. You just need to know how to train them and be god at it. They require hard work and tons of socialization.
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Part...........key word.
Pits are great dogs. You just need to know how to train them and be god at it. They require hard work and tons of socialization.
The pitbull that I rescued off the streets a few months ago just bit someone, resulting in me having to pay out well over $400 and I'm being charged with a misdemeanor. I'm not very happy with him, or his breed, right now.dogwonder said:
Ahh you wouldn't say that if you met Max...65 lb lap dog...stosh said:
Slugman said:
Sorry to slightly derail your thread Stosh...
It seems that Burt Ward, Robin from the 60's Batman TV series, now runs a rescue for large breed dogs. It seems that he's doing some amazing things with large breeds. He is claiming to routinely get 12 - 14 years of life from the dogs. Those of you that know big dogs know the average lifespan is 7 - 9 years.
http://gentlegiantsrescue.com/
Sorry Stosh, back on topic....
And then there was the akita who bit someone, and the german shephard who bit someone, and the chow who bit someone. One bad dog doesn't mean the breed is bad.macko said:
Everyone says that but when we saw the vet they thought he was mostly pit. But he was a humane society rescue so who the hell really knows.Tame Ape said:
Akitas and Chows are pretty notorious for being prone to bite.dogwonder said:
You could have picked some better examples
It's hard to tell with shelter dogs. The shelter workers are usually just guessing, and then you have to take into account the tendency to look for two breeds instead of the chance that he's really mutted up.dogwonder said:
So here we go with pointing out that because people train pits to fight (like people have done in the past with Rotti's, Dobey, and German Shephard's) the breed must be bad.
While I am obviously no expert, I have met a fair number of pits. I have so far NEVER met a pit that wasn't vicious. I have however met mixed breeds that have pit in them that are cool.dogwonder said:
IMO the breed was bred to be vicious and people can't seem to train that out of them. Maybe I am way off base here but you never hear about golden retrievers mauling babies. Pits on the other hand...
No maybe goldens don't get headlines that maul, but I'd be surprised if there has never been an instance in the past. I just get really irritated when people label a breed as bad when it's pretty much all training.Ciaran said:
I've seen photos of what other breeds have done to people and it's almost always considered one bad dog...but when it's a pit, the tone changes. I hate the double standard.
To counterpoint, I'm in Manhattan near several dog runs (dogs is cute) and have seen a huge volume of poochs of all sizes, colors and temperments. Whenever a fight breaks out, there is no consistently distinct breed involved. Most of the Pitt's I've seen are totally chill.Ciaran said:
I've met a bunch. I even know one that was adopted by a shelter worker that was considered unadoptable. Having said that, he pays attention to that dog like it is a live grenade with the pin out, even though it hasn't shown aggressiveness in the couple of years since he adopted it. Most owners with aggressive dogs (or even dogs that have a higher potential to be aggressive due to their breed) either like them aggressive, or aren't willing to put in the work to handle them.Ciaran said:
It sucks, because it's the dog that ends up with the majority of the consequences.
Stosh, one thing to look into before you decide what breed you want to get is your homeowners or renters insurance policy guidelines. Some breeds or certain numbers of some breeds are either not covered on your policy, or can increase your premium. It's worth checking into because some of the breeds are not your stereotyped (pits, rots, ect) breeds either. Some policies are okay with a german shepherd, but two german shepherds and your premium goes up, or your coverage is reduced.
By the way, thread succesfully derailed in less than an afternoon, not bad guys.
I didn't want to start a flame-war over dog breeds here ... I'm just stating the facts of what recently happened to me. Ozo (the dog in question) is a great dog. A bit rambunctious, but a good, loving, boy. With that said, keep your dogs leashed and make sure they can't get out of your yard. I'm dealing with some fairly serious consequences for what this dog did.
The best ride dogs are Heellers and labs as far as I have seen.
We have 2 dogs 1 does not need to be leashed (Shepard mix) and will follow you anywhere... if she gets out of line all you have to do is tell her to "get over here" and she will get right next to you. The other will... if she gets the chance... take off running (Great Pyr), which is a trait that I absolutely hate in any dog.
We have 2 dogs 1 does not need to be leashed (Shepard mix) and will follow you anywhere... if she gets out of line all you have to do is tell her to "get over here" and she will get right next to you. The other will... if she gets the chance... take off running (Great Pyr), which is a trait that I absolutely hate in any dog.
I couldn't agree more. We always keep our dog leashed because it's just the right thing to do. And although Max is a good dog, he does chase things and probably wouldn't be very delicate with a cat.macko said:
Good luck with getting through your issue Macko, that sucks.
Adoption is the way to go STosh - doesn't have to be the humane society, tons of adoption groups out there in addition to the pound puppies route.
And your basing this on??Hawkeye said:
I used to work with a girl that had a Shibu and she said she would never ever let the dog offleash. She has to leash it in her fenced backyard because it will find a way to get out. She loves the dog but knows there will be things she'll never be able to do with it. She also said he's really really stubborn.
I have 2 Weimaraner's, they are great dogs but they need a lot of exercise to keep them happy. Both were rescued, one was from the Humane Society and the other from a breeder that was going to put him down because only one of his balls dropped. Couldn't show him with only 1 testicle so he was worthless to them
He doesn't have any now......
If you are going to get a dog go to a local shelter or rescue. There's way too many good dogs given up for stupid reasons.
I have 2 Weimaraner's, they are great dogs but they need a lot of exercise to keep them happy. Both were rescued, one was from the Humane Society and the other from a breeder that was going to put him down because only one of his balls dropped. Couldn't show him with only 1 testicle so he was worthless to them
He doesn't have any now......If you are going to get a dog go to a local shelter or rescue. There's way too many good dogs given up for stupid reasons.
Glad you saved him.weimie said:Couldn't show him with only 1 testicle so he was worthless to them
This guy only had one nut drop too
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weimie said:I used to work with a girl that had a Shibu and she said she would never ever let the dog offleash. She has to leash it in her fenced backyard because it will find a way to get out. She loves the dog but knows there will be things she'll never be able to do with it. She also said he's really really stubborn.
I have 2 Weimaraner's, they are great dogs but they need a lot of exercise to keep them happy. Both were rescued, one was from the Humane Society and the other from a breeder that was going to put him down because only one of his balls dropped. Couldn't show him with only 1 testicle so he was worthless to them
If you are going to get a dog go to a local shelter or rescue. There's way too many good dogs given up for stupid reasons.
I volunteered at an animal shelter while in college. It sucked to see some great healty dogs get put down, meanwhile people go out and spend many hundreds of dollars on poorly bred dogs that come with papers that will costs them thousands on vet bills in the future.
Yep...some of the best dogs out there are muts from the shelter.
Awesome! Victor otherwise known as "little sh&t" is happy and healthy also.Silver said:Glad you saved him.
This guy only had one nut drop too
not necessarily - in my experience, it depends on the dog. Here's one of my dogs and "responds" to electric fences...dogwonder said:
run run run run run *yip* run run run
Then we go find him in the next state.
what do you want in a dog, besides the ability to hike and run with you?stosh said:
MTB_Rob_NC said:
Purebreds are fragile...
I would approve if I could.Westy said:
I volunteered at an animal shelter while in college. It sucked to see some great healty dogs get put down, meanwhile people go out and spend many hundreds of dollars on poorly bred dogs that come with papers that will costs them thousands on vet bills in the future.
Regardless of the breed, there are rescue organizations with dozens of dogs from specific breeds looking for homes. These organizations save the animals before they are put down by the SPCA or whoever else ends up with abandoned or abused dogs. Many of these animals are already well-trained, and cost way less than going to a breeder.
It took me about 10 seconds to find a bunch for Shiba Inus: http://www.shibas.org/rescue.html
At least consider it.
Yeah that can happen, but if you introduce them to the invisible fence slowly and correctly, they work flawlessly. My neighbors dog needs to be in a car to go out of the yard it's so well trained.jacksonpt said:
Max has admittedly run the fence twice but in the last year hasn't gone through even when chasing the neighbor's cat.
But a lot does depend on the quality of fence. In Vermont we had the Petsmart brand fence for $250 and the dogs were always running through it. Here we ante'd up and paid $1000 for a professional one and it is worth every extra penny. It was either that or $8000 for a physical fence.
stosh said:
Rotties and pits make great pets in the right enviro. Especially if you get them before some jackass has ruined them, ie as a pup from the pound. Unlike labs and other retrievers, you can actually tire them out. Rotties in particular are very affectionate. They can be territorial and protective of thier owner, but you just have to be aware of the dog and anticipate situations.