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Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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I normally wouldn't support people piling on someone like this, but Brian tried to convince people to buy Hope brakes, that can neither be forgiven nor forgotten.
Well yeah, but this is for winter riding, so I don't really have to be able to stop.
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
41,764
19,071
Riding the baggage carousel.

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,995
7,870
Colorado
I await Brian's fact based, measured, reasonable, and intelligent rebuttal.
Let me see here... House seats are allocated by population. Majority of House has voted to impeach the president. Therefore... the politicians supported by the majority of voting Americans, voted to impeach the president. Sorry.
Laws were broken and the majority told him to fuck off. Now we get to see the minority hold back the wants of the majority.
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
41,764
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Riding the baggage carousel.
Let me see here... House seats are allocated by population. Majority of House has voted to impeach the president. Therefore... the politicians supported by the majority of voting Americans, voted to impeach the president. Sorry.
Almost as if the majority of the voting population also didn't vote for trump. :think:. I can't believe we had to wait until Hoyer's speach for some Democrat to bring that up.

Now we get to see the minority hold back the wants of the majority.
Electoral college and Gerrymandering say "Hi!"
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,995
7,870
Colorado
Almost as if the majority of the voting population also didn't vote for trump. :think:. I can't believe we had to wait until Hoyer's speach for some Democrat to bring that up.


Electoral college and Gerrymandering say "Hi!"
Well, the Senate is not decided by population. But yes to the electoral college and gerrymandering to provide more votes to red States than their population provides for. Yet somehow, they still lost the House?
 

rideit

Bob the Builder
Aug 24, 2004
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In the cleavage of the Tetons
Has this been posted here?

“When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper . . . despotic in his ordinary demeanour — known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty — when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity — to join in the cry of danger to liberty — to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion — to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day — It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may 'ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

-alexander hamilton
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
41,764
19,071
Riding the baggage carousel.
Has this been posted here?

“When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper . . . despotic in his ordinary demeanour — known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty — when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity — to join in the cry of danger to liberty — to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion — to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day — It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may 'ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

-alexander hamilton
Schiff quoted it in one of his statements.


Time is a flat circle, or something........
 

Brian HCM#1

MMMMMMMMM BEER!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 7, 2001
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We're ready. You don't need to write a thesis, just as Shane noted above.
So what laws were broken? Hearsay to remove someone from office won’t fly. Dems witness said only hearsay and presumption. Dem witnesses said Trumps transcript was accurate. Ukraine president said no quid pro quo. Collusion backfired. Schiff’s secret meetings in the basement. Schiff not allowing the Republicans to call their own witnesses, shut the republicans down when they wanted to question democratic picked witnesses. Schiff exaggerated a conversation with president Zelinski in front of congress. Schiff said he had proof of collusion in front of the nation. The left was not being fair in the house and now expect the right to play fair in the senate. Now Pelosi is not going to submit the articles of impeachment.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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So what laws were broken? Hearsay to remove someone from office won’t fly. Dems witness said only hearsay and presumption. Dem witnesses said Trumps transcript was accurate. Ukraine president said no quid pro quo. Collusion backfired. Schiff’s secret meetings in the basement. Schiff not allowing the Republicans to call their own witnesses, shut the republicans down when they wanted to question democratic picked witnesses. Schiff exaggerated a conversation with president Zelinski in front of congress. Schiff said he had proof of collusion in front of the nation. The left was not being fair in the house and now expect the right to play fair in the senate. Now Pelosi is not going to submit the articles of impeachment.
Witness testimony under oath is evidence.

It’s well established that Trump was trying to have his private henchman convince the Ukrainians to investigate the Biden’s for political advantage. This continued through several channels/attempts.
 
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