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Nick

My name is Nick
Sep 21, 2001
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oh hell yes it was a waste of time trying to impeach that orange piece of shit.
it's not a waste of time. you do what you have to do, even if the outcome looks bleak.
If nothing else they lay out their case and those who willingly bury their heads in the sand may have to answer for that.
Better still, something comes out which shifts the momentum and we get 'justice', whatever that looks like these day.
 

mandown

Poopdeck Repost
Jun 1, 2004
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if it wasn't fucked before this....it certainly is now.
It’s revealed the level of shenanigans that can be gotten away with if you just act ridiculously. It has revealed how the public behaves and what can be tolerated in the political arena.

The precedent has been set. I can only imagine what will follow in these footsteps.
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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it's not a waste of time. you do what you have to do, even if the outcome looks bleak.
If nothing else they lay out their case and those who willingly bury their heads in the sand may have to answer for that.
Better still, something comes out which shifts the momentum and we get 'justice', whatever that looks like these day.
guaranteeing impeachment when the other side has control of the house and feels like it.....
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
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In a van.... down by the river
It’s revealed the level of shenanigans that can be gotten away with if you just act ridiculously. It has revealed how the public behaves and what can be tolerated in the political arena.

The precedent has been set. I can only imagine what will follow in these footsteps.
Yeah? Well, have you SEEN my 401K? I'd be fine with a dictatorship as long as my portfolio continues to do well.

:disgust:
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.
It’s revealed the level of shenanigans that can be gotten away with if you just act ridiculously. It has revealed how the public behaves and what can be tolerated in the political arena.

The precedent has been set. I can only imagine what will follow in these footsteps.
So the answer is sit by and do nothing about it? I find that picture pretty fucking bleak.
 

mandown

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Jun 1, 2004
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So the answer is sit by and do nothing about it? I find that picture pretty fucking bleak.
No. It’s not the answer. I don’t think the impeachment is going to be meaningful, other than symbolical. I think the answer is to vote him out. I suppose keeping the administration mired in proceedings isn’t the worst use of energy in the meantime.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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No. It’s not the answer. I don’t think the impeachment is going to be meaningful, other than symbolical. I think the answer is to vote him out. I suppose keeping the administration mired in proceedings isn’t the worst use of energy in the meantime.
Sometimes you fight a battle you know you will lose to simply slow the advance.
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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No. It’s not the answer. I don’t think the impeachment is going to be meaningful, other than symbolical. I think the answer is to vote him out. I suppose keeping the administration mired in proceedings isn’t the worst use of energy in the meantime.
You're not wrong. I honestly don't expect the Senate to convict, but that doesn't mean the fight isn't worth having. What do you stand for if you don't stand against this administration, against these gross violations of Laws and Norms? (rhetorical question, not you specifically). The same people whining about "waste of time" are the same people who whine about "do nothing dems". Sometimes symbols matter.
 

dan-o

Turbo Monkey
Jun 30, 2004
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Sometimes you fight a battle you know you will lose to simply slow the advance.
True.
I also think that can antagonize and result in more aggressive attempts to advance.

Had there been limited resistance to the Wall, instead of deliberately trying to impede trumps attempt to deliver on his campaign promise, I don't think that would be such a shitshow (pulling funds from DoD etc).

The reality is even with a green light/blank checkbook very little of that project would get completed within an 8 year term.
The design, procurement etc would be glacial by comparison because, like the Ukraine favor, his real goal is to save face rather than deliver results.
Once he was out of office it could've been killed off pretty easily.

Instead opposition was made personal and the eternal poke each other in the eye cycles began.
 
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Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
41,767
19,079
Riding the baggage carousel.

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
41,767
19,079
Riding the baggage carousel.

"Inside the room, Pompeo shouted his displeasure at being questioned about Ukraine," NPR reported. "He used repeated expletives, according to Kelly, and asked, 'Do you think Americans care about Ukraine?'"
Watza matter Mike? Getting too hot in the kitchen? :rofl:
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Can you imagine what else Parnas probably has on tape?
Remember how Omarosa wrote an entire book with what she had recorded on her phone in her purse?

But Hillary's e-mails were a threat to national security, or something. :rolleyes:


EDIT: Ask, and ye shall receive.

 
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Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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"Credulous, boomer, rube demographic".

Man, I hate to give Rick Wilson credit for......anything, but slowclap.gif
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Come on man. Are you saying you don’t trust a lying, unqualified, draft dodging, gold star family disrespecting, POW attacking, US General insulting, racist, sexist, vulgar, confirmed sexual assaulting, trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting, own daughter creeping, wife cheating with a pornstar while pregnant and paying her off to influence a presidential election, $413 million dollar inheritance getting, teen pageant dressing room invading, baby and mother separating, breast feeding mother shaming, fat-shaming while being fat, 17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting, university student defrauding, bankrupt casino causing, kids cancer charity stealing, taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having, wife-beating, popular vote losing, anti-vaxxing, Christianity-faking, publicist impersonating, tax dodging, friends’ wives pursuing, impeached, foreign aid bribing, 1/3 of the presidency golf playing, free press assaulting, Hannity coordinating, Cambridge Analytica using, Ivanka is a “piece of ass” approving, loan application asset inflating, historically low polling, college achievement faking, unqualified judge appointing, unqualified cabinet member appointing, foreign influence on our election welcoming, tax release avoiding, birther conspiracy spreading, Ukraine ambassador targeting, Russian money taking, Kurdish ally abandoning, soldier brain injury downplaying, full morning “executive time” taking, Epstein befriending, Putin bowing, Kim Jong Un praising, North Korean general saluting, US intelligence denying, tallest building in lower Manhattan after 9/11 boasting, congress obstructing, nuclear proliferation deal ending, Justice obstructing, unqualified daughter and son-in-law appointing, healthcare cut targeting, pedophile candidate supporting, trump tower Moscow denying, 4 largest protests in US history causing, green energy stifling, clean water regulation destroying, healthy school lunch ending, climate change denying, congressional and judicial branch attacking, Goldman Sachs appointing, food stamp removing, emissions standards lowering, press conference avoiding, emoluments clause breaking, longest govt shutdown record holding, Saudi Arabia nuclear tech selling, golf cheating, time magazine cover faking individual?

Is that what you’re saying?

*I wish I could take credit for that, but I can't.
 

eric strt6

Resident Curmudgeon
Sep 8, 2001
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