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Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
40,038
8,954
I'll confess to really struggling with hoping these people get exactly what they deserve vs my empathy for the people who are going to get totally fucked.
let them touch the stove. they really want to
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
43,351
15,479
Portland, OR
He had some real winners in his team the first time, but damn. Our Homeland Security Chief shot her 14 month old dog because he was untrainable. But Boarder Security along with FEMA should be cake.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,397
10,867
AK
It will be a shitshow, especially as all the shit he promised is turned down by the various half-educated advisors and BUSINESSES that tell him it will screw things up more, so there'll be cutouts and exceptions that basically make any of the promises ineffective, but he'll still claim they happened. Just think if big US companies bottom lines start dropping because they can't sell their stuff to the rest of the WORLD. Yeah, there'll be a pretty fucking quick stop to import tariffs that upset the balance. This process will repeat itself in almost every aspect of government. One of the standing rules last time was "for every new rule, you have to get rid of two"...which seems not bad on the outside really, but when specific new rules are enacted to actually make things better, as in more streamlined, faster, more clarification...you still had to get rid of two old rules? It quickly stalled into that same shitshow and stopped real fast...because it made no F-ing sense to apply as a rule overall. It will be a shitshow.
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
6,233
861
Lima, Peru, Peru
Don't worry, new HHS director RFK Jr will decide that brain worms will cure all diseases, so we have that to look forward to
This is the kind of "affects the whole world" thing.
Smaller countries do not have a FDA. We just go/rubber stamp with whatever is fda (or euro) approved. Hundreds of millions of people depend on that.

Same thing with the standard of medical care. We dont have research universities/hospitals updating medical standards. We just go with whatever is US/Europe established.
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
68,124
14,338
In a van.... down by the river
This is the kind of "affects the whole world" thing.
Smaller countries do not have a FDA. We just go/rubber stamp with whatever is fda (or euro) approved. Hundreds of millions of people depend on that.

Same thing with the standard of medical care. We dont have research universities/hospitals updating medical standards. We just go with whatever is US/Europe established.
yEaH? WeLl wE OfFiCiAlLy nO LoNgEr cArE AbOuT YoUr sHiThOlE CoUnTrIeS!

-Trump, probably
 

mykel

closer to Periwinkle
Apr 19, 2013
5,541
4,255
sw ontario canada
Copied this from another place. Is this an actual possibility?

"Hope it's wrong, but I'm hearing through the grapevine about this bonkers plan: Trump would adjourn both Houses of Congress under Article II, section 3, and then recess-appoint his Cabinet.

As predicate for Trump's exercise of adjournment power, one House of Congress would seek other House's consent to adjourn and be denied. So Speaker of House would need to be complicit in evisceration of Senate's advice-and-consent role.

House Speaker Mike Johnson needs to say NO to this right away."
 

rideit

Bob the Builder
Aug 24, 2004
24,903
12,655
In the cleavage of the Tetons
Well, Trump has blown through about every fucking thing that we could think of, so who the hell knows.
All of his supporters just shrugged and said “he’s just saying that”, etc.
There is no bottom until the ‘American Experiment in democracy has proven, by Trump (and his lackeys) to be a failure.
 

6thElement

Schrodinger's Immigrant
Jul 29, 2008
17,427
14,928
Is senate confirmation just via majority vote? If so, none of his nutjobs will get stopped as no repub who wants a career will speak up.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,397
10,867
AK
Is senate confirmation just via majority vote? If so, none of his nutjobs will get stopped as no repub who wants a career will speak up.
People like Murkowski know they can here, because no matter what they do they need to not piss off the native population too badly and they will still get the votes from all the rubes. They tend to walk that bullshit line of almost having a conscience far more than the ones that know they have to stick to the hardcore rube stuff.
 

boostindoubles

Nacho Libre
Mar 16, 2004
8,527
7,120
Yakistan
It will be a shitshow, especially as all the shit he promised is turned down by the various half-educated advisors and BUSINESSES that tell him it will screw things up more, so there'll be cutouts and exceptions that basically make any of the promises ineffective, but he'll still claim they happened. Just think if big US companies bottom lines start dropping because they can't sell their stuff to the rest of the WORLD. Yeah, there'll be a pretty fucking quick stop to import tariffs that upset the balance. This process will repeat itself in almost every aspect of government. One of the standing rules last time was "for every new rule, you have to get rid of two"...which seems not bad on the outside really, but when specific new rules are enacted to actually make things better, as in more streamlined, faster, more clarification...you still had to get rid of two old rules? It quickly stalled into that same shitshow and stopped real fast...because it made no F-ing sense to apply as a rule overall. It will be a shitshow.
The solution is, and always will be, bAiLoUtS!!!!!
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
42,095
19,515
Riding past the morgue.
Stumbled across this. Carl Sagan (plus idiocracy) says it all.
View attachment 221795
It's even worse if you read the whole thing in context:

"But there's another reason: science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30-second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance. As I write, the number one video cassette rental in America is the movie Dumb and Dumber. Beavis and Butthead remains popular (and influential) with young TV viewers. The plain lesson is that study and learning - not just of science, but of anything - are avoidable, even undesirable.
We've arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements - transportation, communications, and all other industries; agriculture, medicine, education, entertainment, protecting the environment; and even the key democratic institution of voting - profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
A Candle in the Dark is the title of a courageous, largely Biblically based, book by Thomas Ady, published in London in 1656, attacking the witch-hunts then in progress as a scam 'to delude the people'. Any illness or storm, anything out of the ordinary, was popularly attributed to witchcraft. Witches must exist, Ady quoted the 'witchmongers' as arguing, 'else how should these things be, or come to pass?' For much of our history, we were so fearful of the outside world, with its unpredictable dangers, that we gladly embraced anything that promised to soften or explain away the terror. Science is an attempt, largely successful, to understand the world, to get a grip on things, to get hold of ourselves, to steer a safe course. Microbiology and meteorology now explain what only a few centuries ago was considered sufficient cause to burn women to death.
Ady also warned of the danger that 'the Nations [will] perish for lack of knowledge'. Avoidable human misery is more often caused not so much by stupidity as by ignorance, particularly our ignorance about ourselves. I worry that, especially as the millennium edges nearer, pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us - then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls.
The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir."
 

mandown

Poopdeck Repost
Jun 1, 2004
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Transylvania 90210
This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
One could argue the history of human existence has been dominated by a non scientific general population and evidently been fairly successful without it. Sure, we’ve had some fancy advancements in the last 150 years, but isn’t further refinement just gilding the lily?
 

Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
10,915
10,030
Crawlorado
It's even worse if you read the whole thing in context:

"But there's another reason: science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30-second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance. As I write, the number one video cassette rental in America is the movie Dumb and Dumber. Beavis and Butthead remains popular (and influential) with young TV viewers. The plain lesson is that study and learning - not just of science, but of anything - are avoidable, even undesirable.
We've arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements - transportation, communications, and all other industries; agriculture, medicine, education, entertainment, protecting the environment; and even the key democratic institution of voting - profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
A Candle in the Dark is the title of a courageous, largely Biblically based, book by Thomas Ady, published in London in 1656, attacking the witch-hunts then in progress as a scam 'to delude the people'. Any illness or storm, anything out of the ordinary, was popularly attributed to witchcraft. Witches must exist, Ady quoted the 'witchmongers' as arguing, 'else how should these things be, or come to pass?' For much of our history, we were so fearful of the outside world, with its unpredictable dangers, that we gladly embraced anything that promised to soften or explain away the terror. Science is an attempt, largely successful, to understand the world, to get a grip on things, to get hold of ourselves, to steer a safe course. Microbiology and meteorology now explain what only a few centuries ago was considered sufficient cause to burn women to death.
Ady also warned of the danger that 'the Nations [will] perish for lack of knowledge'. Avoidable human misery is more often caused not so much by stupidity as by ignorance, particularly our ignorance about ourselves. I worry that, especially as the millennium edges nearer, pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us - then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls.
The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir."
TL;DR

Can someone summarize this in 140 characters or less?
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,397
10,867
AK
A Candle in the Dark is the title of a courageous, largely Biblically based, book by Thomas Ady, published in London in 1656, attacking the witch-hunts then in progress as a scam 'to delude the people'. Any illness or storm, anything out of the ordinary, was popularly attributed to witchcraft. Witches must exist, Ady quoted the 'witchmongers' as arguing, 'else how should these things be, or come to pass?' For much of our history, we were so fearful of the outside world, with its unpredictable dangers, that we gladly embraced anything that promised to soften or explain away the terror. Science is an attempt, largely successful, to understand the world, to get a grip on things, to get hold of ourselves, to steer a safe course. Microbiology and meteorology now explain what only a few centuries ago was considered sufficient cause to burn women to death.
Ady also warned of the danger that 'the Nations [will] perish for lack of knowledge'. Avoidable human misery is more often caused not so much by stupidity as by ignorance, particularly our ignorance about ourselves. I worry that, especially as the millennium edges nearer, pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us - then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls.
The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir."
Sounds kinda like a Rainbow in the Dark?
 

mandown

Poopdeck Repost
Jun 1, 2004
22,041
9,298
Transylvania 90210