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MMike

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Space: America's new war zone

By Andrew Buncombe in Washington
Published: 19 October 2006

The Bush administration has staked an aggressive new claim to dominate space - rejecting any new treaties that seek to limit the United States' extraterrestrial activities and warning that it will oppose any nations that try to get in its way.

A new policy recently signed by President George Bush, asserts that his country has the right to conduct whatever research, development and "other activities" in space that it deems necessary for its own national interests.

The new policy further warns that the US will take those actions necessary to protect its space capabilities "and deny, if necessary, adversaries the use of space capabilities hostile" to those interests. The document adds: "Space activities have improved life in the United States and around the world, enhancing security, protecting lives and the environment, speeding information flow serving as an engine for economic growth and revolutionising the way people view their world and the cosmos."

"Freedom of action in space is as important to the United States as air power and sea power."
In some respects the policy represents the space equivalent of the "Bush Doctrine" national security policy initially outlined by Mr Bush in a speech at West Point military academy in June 2002. At that event - and later more formally codified - Mr Bush said the new US policy would place more emphasis on military pre-emption and unilateral actions.

Some experts believe the space directive, discreetly published more than a week ago and barely noticed outside specialist circles, puts the US on a new and dangerous course given that it transports "Bush Doctrine" policy to a new arena and rejects any efforts to limit US behaviour.

"I think that saying we will not have any limits on our actions is quite dangerous," said Theresa Hitchens, director of the Washington-based Centre for Defence Information.

"It claims no one can prohibit our rights but it also denies rights to [others].
"You would think that we would have learnt our lessons about the danger of military pre-emptive action and unilateralism in Iraq yet we are repeating the same policy towards space."
In part the new directive builds on the space policy of the Clinton administration. But some believe its new, hardline rhetoric will increase international suspicions that the US is seeking to develop and deploy weapons in space.
"The Clinton administration opened the door to developing space weapons but that administration never did anything about it. The Bush policy now goes further," Michael Krepon, of the Stimson Centre, told The Washington Post.
Mr Bush's attitude to space has always been more ambitious than that of his predecessor. In 2004 he outlined a vision to restart sending astronauts to the Moon, and even to Mars. In the same year the US Air Force published a highly controversial plan for establishing weapons in space, amid speculation that advanced lasers, spacecraft and space-based weapons firing 100kg tungsten bolts were being developed. And earlier this year it was revealed that the Pentagon was seeking hundreds of millions of dollars from Congress to test and develop space weapons.
In those portions of the new policy document that have been made public, there is no specific mention of the weaponisation of space. It says the US's priorities are to "strengthen the nation's space leadership" and to enable "unhindered US operations in and through space to defend our interests there". But the policy also claims that national security is "critically" dependent upon space capabilities. As a result it calls on the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, and the Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, to "develop and deploy space capabilities that sustain US advantage and support defence and intelligence transformations".
In recent years some nations have called for talks to ban the deployment of weapons in space. Currently the deployment of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction are prohibited by the 1967 United Nations Outer Space Treaty.
When proposals to ban the weaponisation of space have been put forward at the UN, the United States has routinely abstained. But last October the US voted against a UN resolution calling for the banning of weapons in space.
Likewise, the US has repeatedly resisted efforts to hold negotiations on the issue of banning the placement in weapons by the Geneva-based Conference on Disarmament.
Wade Boese of the Arms Control Association said the language in the new policy was "much more hard line" than any that previously existed.
He added: "We believe that this allergy to treaties is counter-productive. The US has the most to lose if there is an arms race in outer space in the long run. If the US [puts weapons in space], other countries will respond in some way."
A spokesman for the White House's National Security Council said in a statement that the policy was needed to "reflect the fact that space has become an even more important component of US economic, national and homeland security".
The final frontier
Moon
President Bush announced his Vision for Space Exploration in January 2004, calling for humans to return to the Moon by the end of the next decade. The first wave of robotic probes is the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, due to launch in 2008. As well as seeking landing sites, it will search for water ice and other resources. The initiative is supported by 68 per cent of Americans, according to opinion polls.
Mars
Under President Bush's 2004 vision, Moon exploration would pave the way for human space travel to Mars and beyond. The Mars reconnaissance Rover arrived on the Red Planet on 10 March 2006, equipped with the most powerful telescope ever taken to another planet.
Star Wars
The Clinton administration in 1999 revived Ronald Reagan's "star wars" space-based anti-missile shield as the Pentagon pushed for a more aggressive military posture in space amid warnings that North Korea, Iran and Iraq could obtain nuclear weapons. The programme became known as "son of star wars". Space weapons could include lasers that can shut down rival satellites and "killer" satellites that could ram others.
The new Bush policy calls for space-based capabilities to support missile-warning systems, and "multi-layered and integrated missile defences" that could lay the groundwork for the militarisation of space.

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Stephen Castle: America intends to claim a new empire

Published: 19 October 2006

America guards its primacy in space jealously, as Europe knows only too well. When the EU drew up plans to launch its own satellite navigation system in the late 1990s, Washington made its objections clear.
America's key ally in Europe, the UK, stalled the project, holding it up for months by demanding a report by management consultants and disputing the need for the system. Top US military brass at Nato claimed the European venture could interfere with signals used for American defence.
It was only after a host of assurances were given that Washington backed off and the EU went ahead with project Galileo. Late last December the first of a constellation of 30 navigation satellites blasted into space from a launch pad in Kazakhstan.
The US had reservations for two main reasons. It dislikes anything that can be interpreted as an effort to usurp its status as the dominant power in space and the world's only military superpower.
Galileo's satellites will circle the globe in three orbits at an altitude of about 23,000km (14,000 miles) - and challenge the supremacy of America's Global Positioning System. Designers say the European project will deliver real-time positioning to within metres with unrivalled accuracy.
The EU's project is civilian-run. The aim is to provide data that will make road-pricing schemes easier to run and driverless cars a possibility. Other uses include the monitoring of crop yields and tracking livestock.
But suggestions last week from the EU transport commissioner, Jacques Barrot, that Galileo might have military applications provoked a sharp slapdown from the UK.
The second reason is that Washington fears the project will allow the transfer of cutting-edge technology to hostile countries. An investment of €230m (£154m) from China in Galileo increased US worries that Beijing was trying to gain access to such material. So sensitive is the issue that officials working on the project keep top secret papers in a bank vault.
So will the new US space policy have implications for Galileo? EU officials were dismissive yesterday saying they saw no connection. Theoretically it is possible that, were the Europeans to agree to use their navigation system for military purposes, Washington would become very nervous.
Yet the EU is unlikely to emerge as an entity that is truly "hostile to US interests". The US has enough allies in the 25-nation bloc to veto any use of Galileo for military applications.
 

skinny mike

Turbo Monkey
Jan 24, 2005
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oh jesus, did someone let the president watch armageddon? this is why no "hypothetical disaster" movies should have anything to do with texas...
 

Transcend

My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
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Towing the party line.
Militarizing space is against the Geneva Conventions and certain UN policies (PAROS & the conference on disarmament) as well as the 1967 outer space treaty (article 4), which covers and is the basis for all international law governing outer space.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
Militarizing space is against the Geneva Conventions and certain UN policies (PAROS & the conference on disarmament) as well as the 1967 outer space treaty (article 4), which covers and is the basis for all international law governing outer space.
treaties, smeaties...
 

Slugman

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Militarizing space is against the Geneva Conventions and certain UN policies (PAROS & the conference on disarmament) as well as the 1967 outer space treaty (article 4), which covers and is the basis for all international law governing outer space.
Shrub ignoring the Geneva convention... nothign new.
 

reflux

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Mar 18, 2002
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This is getting goddamndiculous.

Next thing we know, Bush is going to start talking about how outer space = freedom, liberty, and the American way.
 

RenegadeRick

98th percentile on my SAT & all I got was this tin
This is getting goddamndiculous.

Next thing we know, Bush is going to start talking about how outer space = freedom, liberty, and the American way.
He already did:

The new policy further warns that the US will take those actions necessary to protect its space capabilities "and deny, if necessary, adversaries the use of space capabilities hostile" to those interests. The document adds: "Space activities have improved life in the United States and around the world, enhancing security, protecting lives and the environment, speeding information flow serving as an engine for economic growth and revolutionising the way people view their world and the cosmos."

"Freedom of action in space is as important to the United States as air power and sea power."
He knows the buzzwords. Too bad he doesn't mean 'em. :disgust1:
 

dhbuilder

jingoistic xenophobe
Aug 10, 2005
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it never fails to crack me up the way everyone believes everything some crackpot blogger deciphers and posts.

don't believe everything you read kiddies.
ya'll are diggin deep to fuel your hatred.

so much wasted energy focused on something ya can't do anything about anyway.
 

RenegadeRick

98th percentile on my SAT & all I got was this tin
Q: does anyone think a Democratic president would be doing the same?
Republicans and Democrats are cut from the same cloth. So, yeah, probably.

The US is a nation of laws, and while presidents often ignore them, our current unitary executive has taken his constitutional authority to interpret laws as he sees fit, and disregard laws and treaties in the interest of national security to new extremes.

Now, a rational individual might read the Constitution and notice that it describes a system of checks and balances, and one might wonder where the part about the authority of the unitary executive is mentioned. Well if you read it, and read it again, you still won't find it.

You see, the Decider has the unique ability to interpret the laws in any way he wishes. He can say that when the authors of the Constitution created checks and balances, what they really intended was for the Decider, the unitary executive to be able to simply do whatever the funk he wishes.

But wait, you say, "Isn't the power to interpret the laws the realm of the Judicial Branch, as described in the Constitution?"
Not at all. The unitary executive can interpret the laws as he sees fit.

"Well, " you continue, "didn't the American revolution revolt against a king and his unlimited power?"
No. They were simply upset about having to pay taxes on their tea. Now that Americans are mostly coffee drinkers, we can clearly see that the American revolutionaries actually preferred to follow the directives of a monarch. Having a unitary executive with unquestionable authority is simple and direct. It is much easier to think and do as you are told.

So as you see kids, the Constitution does indeed grant unlimited power to the Executive Branch.
And we know this is true because the Decider decided it was!

:happydance:
 

RenegadeRick

98th percentile on my SAT & all I got was this tin
it never fails to crack me up the way everyone believes everything some crackpot blogger deciphers and posts.

don't believe everything you read kiddies.
ya'll are diggin deep to fuel your hatred.

so much wasted energy focused on something ya can't do anything about anyway.
What crackpot blogger?

The story originally posted is from the mainstream media. The quotes I highlighted are from Bush himself.

I don't understand the rest of your post.
What hatred?
What wasted energy on what?

The only thing I understand is to not believe everything you read. I agree. Always check your sources. It sounds like you may not ahave done this since apparently you do not know the source of the article.