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Doubling up on a Cane Creek angleset?

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  1. MrBaker87

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    I'm getting a used Sunday in the mail in the next few days and I'd like to throw the existing CC angleset I already have in it to slacken it out.

    I currently only have two .5 degree cups (top and bottom) for my angleset along with some 0degree cups. However, I am curious might it be possible to order two 1 degree cups and place one on both the top and bottom side of the headtube and get 2 degrees instead of one? If so, how might this affect bearing life? Will I be at risk with gimble popping? I've had this HS in my Jamis Komodo AM HT which I do lots of jumping, bumping and thumping on and have had none of the normally mentioned problems with the Angleset. But then again, I was VERY careful to install it properly (lines, rules and string).

    Sorry if this question has been asked a million times over, I searched, but did not see an answer on the interwebs.

    PS:This will be my first DH bike and I'm quite excited.
     
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  2. SCARY

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    Pretty sure you're the first with this one
     
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    I'm not sure if it would work.
    But, why not order a 1.5 and see if that's enough?

    Or do those only work with 56mm lower cups?
     
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    Works components do a -2, might even be cheaper than buying more CC parts.
     
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    this is one of the the very rare cases that 1 plus 1 does not equal 2.


    true story bro...
     
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    Can I mix and match AngleSet cups to create different angles?

    Cane Creek has engineered, designed and tested Angleset in partnership with a variety of frame manufacturers, up to 1.5 degrees of offset. We don't recommend building configurations beyond what is offered in stock assemblies.



    I'd take that as a yes.
     
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    call xzibit. he's good at putting stuff inside of stuff.
     
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    I heard he started at Pizza Hut putting weird things inside pizza crust.

    EDIT, Shame knolly never released their proto hartail it would have looked so boring compared to their duallies.
     
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    I've heard of this, and I don't see any reason it wouldn't work on a Sunday. I think this was discussed in the Sunday thread.
     
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    I heard Cane Creek has a phone. True story.
     
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    you've got alot to learn about the monkey, they're not being rude at all. in-fact this lot is actually being helpful. You gained outside world knowledge you might not have previously been privy to. welcome to the club of higher learning.
     
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    I'm glad you found a Sunday your size, mine made its way to Maryland.
     
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    we have become exceedingly efficient at this.
     
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    I actually strongly considering getting the large regardless. I think I'd have liked a larger frame. I just worked out a deal with another guy that allowed me get more or less a complete bike that I wouldn't have to build up (which, knowing me, would have been quick expensive). Thank you regardless!
     
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    Just messing with you by the way. Just trying to say that calling Cane Creek will get you a 100% factual answer. Us, we'll get the facts for you...but in a MadLibs kind of way.

    Now...if you're looking to drill holes in stuff, look no further.
     
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    Don't the upper .5, 1, 1.5 cups not press in as deep as the lower cup? I thought this was for ease of head angle adjustment.
     
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    ChrisRobin : Yes, but luckily Cane Creek makes both angleset cups for upper and lowers. I think this is because some people don't like reach adjustment.

    Yetihenry: As far as price goes. Seeing as how I already have a 1 degree top and the rest of the headset. I would just need to buy a 1 degree lower. Which using UniversalCycles as a catalog is around $26. Not bad. And considering The Works is sold out of useable headsets... This is my a good option. I'm just going to try it. Worse case scenario is it doesn't work and I can throw the cups back in my hardtail.

    I should have called, you're right. However, I spent all day trying to get ahold of a few other companies because my trail bike broke over the weekend. Hours during the day are sometimes hard to get around to calling companies.
     
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    Easy now ice dogg.

    I ran a -1 +1 setup for a year on three different bikes (same headset). I had no problems whatsoever and no popping at all. By contrast, my og angleset clicked regularly with a -1.5/0 setup. They redesigned the cups at some point and the second 1 degree cup was thicker and had a notch in it. One of the bikes was an iron horse, but it was a shakira shakira, not a Sunday.

    Fwiw, this will void your warranty, you will die, and all hell will break loose. For me, it slackened out a very old bike and made it ride better but caused no problems.
     
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    Besides of course, eternal damnation of a young virgin's soul. Correct?

    Thanks for chiming in.
     
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    There is a mob in OZ in the process of making a carbon front triangle for the sunday with what ever geometry you want... They are throwing around linkage options to suit different geo and shocks too apparently.

    $1000au was the price from memory...