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Downsides to the fox40 anyone?

davetrump

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Jul 29, 2003
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dont know if this has been mentioned(didnt read the whole thread as it was rather derailled) but on my first serious ride of my fork today i took some good size air (maybe 12 of hieght(guess)), landing into braking bumps and my spring leg slipped in the crowns about half an inch,the bolts were torqued up right, it was a hard landing but not something i'd expect to happen.
how does one leg move without the other? i asume you botomed out, so how does one leg move up, while the other leg does not? if the fork is botomed they have to both move...

you sure they were even to start with?
 

davetrump

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Jul 29, 2003
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360 said:
dont know if this has been mentioned(didnt read the whole thread as it was rather derailled) but on my first serious ride of my fork today i took some good size air (maybe 12 of hieght(guess)), landing into braking bumps and my spring leg slipped in the crowns about half an inch,the bolts were torqued up right, it was a hard landing but not something i'd expect to happen.
how does one leg move without the other? i assume you botomed out, so how does one leg move up, while the other leg does not? if the fork is bottomed they have to both move, no?... or else you bolts were really really loose, on both crowns.

you sure they were even to start with?
 

buildyourown

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Feb 9, 2004
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davetrump said:
how does one leg move without the other? i assume you botomed out, so how does one leg move up, while the other leg does not? if the fork is bottomed they have to both move, no?... or else you bolts were really really loose, on both crowns.

you sure they were even to start with?

There is only a spring in one leg. If you bottomed the fork, there would only be spring force on the spring side.

I don't think you bolts were tight enough.
 

nickaziz

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Aug 4, 2004
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Transcend said:
And the ones that came stock on our 223s sounded like clogged toilets. Absolute scrap. Our 5ths were amazing last year, the manitou was junk. Funny how 2 nearly identical shocks can be miles apart in feel.
I thought the manitous would be as good as 5ths but less seal drag. I guess not... the 5th's i've ridden still seem way better.
 

OGRipper

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Feb 3, 2004
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Transcend said:
except they are the proper springweight. 3 ti springs would have jacked retail up through the roof!
Yeah, it's funny how some people are ragging on fox for "only" supplying one ti spring with the fork. Personally I'd rather have it come with three steel springs and let people buy a ti spring aftermarket if they want, that would have kept the cost down and been a more fair way of marketing the weight. Anyway at least they give you all three so you can figure out the correct spring weight, most other manufacturers make you buy the extras.
 

ridecruz888

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Feb 8, 2005
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id wait til they've been out a while longer, the most people have had them is like 6 months, there shouldnt be any problems...yet
 

dante

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Feb 13, 2004
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Transcend said:
For a rider of a similiar style, of the same weight. I was about as close as I'd get without buying one for myself (which won't be happening).

Personally, i don't like how they feel. Period. I am not alone in this regard.
uhhh, sorry, you're not allowed to have an opinion. :nope: it's in the FAQ that Avalanche products are the best ever produced, and ever will be produced. if you don't agree, then you are a) stupid, b) riding a shock that's not set up for you.

:cool:
 

Transcend

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Apr 18, 2002
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dante said:
uhhh, sorry, you're not allowed to have an opinion. :nope: it's in the FAQ that Avalanche products are the best ever produced, and ever will be produced. if you don't agree, then you are a) stupid, b) riding a shock that's not set up for you.

:cool:
bwahaha. :)
 

Transcend

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Apr 18, 2002
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OGRipper said:
Yeah, it's funny how some people are ragging on fox for "only" supplying one ti spring with the fork. Personally I'd rather have it come with three steel springs and let people buy a ti spring aftermarket if they want, that would have kept the cost down and been a more fair way of marketing the weight. Anyway at least they give you all three so you can figure out the correct spring weight, most other manufacturers make you buy the extras.
exactly! Altho the medium is great for the widest section of their target market, so that makes sense.
 

seismic

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Dec 22, 2003
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dante said:
uhhh, sorry, you're not allowed to have an opinion. :nope: it's in the FAQ that Avalanche products are the best ever produced, and ever will be produced. if you don't agree, then you are a) stupid, b) riding a shock that's not set up for you.

:cool:
That is correct indeed :)
 

dhkid

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Mar 10, 2005
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why cant they have a choise of a few ti springs and just ship what the rider wants? anyways at least they will have in the aftermarket soon... :thumb:
 

Transcend

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dhkid said:
why cant they have a choise of a few ti springs and just ship what the rider wants? anyways at least they will have in the aftermarket soon... :thumb:
Are you actually friggin serious?

They produce many MANY forks. Having users select the spring, and then installing it would be absurd. You don't want to encourage users to open forks as soon as they buy them.

You also dont want to produce diff weights as this will affect price. They needed to drive the price down. This is all pretty common sense.
 

General Lee

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Oct 16, 2003
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but come on, all the other forks on the market have ti springs. . . . if i don't get one for my fox fork it will be too havy from the extra 1/8 pound and i won't be able to win the world cup :nopity:
 

dhkid

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Mar 10, 2005
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most ppl open up the fork as soon as they get it to change the spring in it or get the travel to 8inches
 

Transcend

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OGRipper said:
I've agreed with you so far, but if they subscribed to this notion they would not give you all three springs.
Thats a good point I somehow obviously missed. :D

They do however ship it with the most common spring in it. The most common spring is ti as it will fit the most common setups.
 

Brian HCM#1

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Sep 7, 2001
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Transcend said:
Thats a good point I somehow obviously missed. :D

They do however ship it with the most common spring in it. The most common spring is ti as it will fit the most common setups.
Not if your above 180lbs, you're stuck with steel. Can they make a firm Ti spring or would the diameter be too big for the stanchion. It would be nice if Fox would do a Ti spring trade-in for a firmer spring. (if it fit) Or a custom order.
 

buildyourown

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Feb 9, 2004
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It does seem a little silly to ship every fork with 2 springs that you will never use. Maybe they should just sell the fork without a spring and make you buy it seperatly. ala boxxers and thier top crowns.
 

dhkid

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Mar 10, 2005
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i thought that is ships with 7inches? it will be nice if they would allow for trade ins for different spring rates.