Draft?
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hey...you want equal rights? You got em sista!
Make it happen no deferments for hardship, college or having the right family connections. Drag the women in as well. Hell, draft some of us old farts with technical backgrounds too.
Seriously.
Seriously.
Notice the draft extending to 34 year olds?
Wtf?
Like they're gonna push most 34 year olds through boot camp. Don't they realize most everyone in America over 30 is morbidly obese?
just make them run and dont let them eat anything but rice.Originally posted by bomberz1qr20
Notice the draft extending to 34 year olds?
Wtf?
Like they're gonna push most 34 year olds through boot camp. Don't they realize most everyone in America over 30 is morbidly obese?
that's what they did with the fatty's when i went through bootcamp. Atkins my ass.
Word - plenty of old farts serving in WWIIOriginally posted by BurlySurly
just make them run and dont let them eat anything but rice.
that's what they did with the fatty's when i went through bootcamp. Atkins my ass.
GOOD! then the first women should be the Bush twins!!!
If you want to stop this war, make the politicians sacrafice their children for it!!!
Set up a law that before any free citizen can be enslaved by their government (i.e. drafted), the rulers must send their children into ACTIVE combat...
You'll see a hell of a lot of politicians fighting to find solutions and alternatives to the war!
If you want to stop this war, make the politicians sacrafice their children for it!!!
Set up a law that before any free citizen can be enslaved by their government (i.e. drafted), the rulers must send their children into ACTIVE combat...
You'll see a hell of a lot of politicians fighting to find solutions and alternatives to the war!
Sounds good except the children are FREE CITIZENS also.
I agree! But if we are going to do it anyway, I want to insure that the politicians to feel the same fear/worry/pain that the rest of us do.Originally posted by RhinofromWA
Sounds good except the children are FREE CITIZENS also.
Right now the decision makers (i.e politicans) would be sending 'free citizens' to war tht would not have a personal impact on themselves. Make it that the're children might be the first to die will ensure that the was is truely a just war.
It's actually an ancient civilization's concept - the kings child would lead the troops into battle... so the king was wise about when he chose war.
I know we are talking about this in reference to a draft, but the current military is volunteer. Free Citizens volunteering to fight for whatever reason their country deems fit. Thier choice is in joining the military. A draft forces the military without choice. enlisting working on a ship or somehwere other than the front lines......and avoiding the draft is the smart thing in the time of a draft.
I agree with your thoughts but in this day and age we keep out upper ups on seperate planes so we don't loose them to enemy fire. We are not going to strap GWB to the front of a tank to lead the charge....though sounds like you would be all for that.
I amy be off here but:
Kerry enlisted and picked a job that would not receive much action...so he hoped (and rightfully so)
Bush Jr enlisted in a national guard unit...didn't see much of any action.
Clinton.....well I am going to skip that one.
so on and so on....
If you can save your child from going to war, would you? How fair is it to put the children of politicians in initially? That would be less fair than a draft....they are garaunteed a rifle and helmet....even if they don't want to go. The Free Citizen has no choice. Would that change the attitude of a leader? maybe. Most likely they kids would get a desk job somewhere.
Rhino
I agree, right now it's voluntary... I'm speaking in terms of it there were a draft, although I think it is a good policy.
How fair is it... it's not. How fair is it that most politicians avoided the draft b/c of family money? How fair is it that most politicains work fewer hours than the rest of us, yet keep getting major raises? How fair is it that they have a health plan that you and I could only dream of?
LIFE AINT FAIR - but my plan would at least benefit more people than their plans do...
You are getting back at politicians through their kids and that is wrong.....
Avoiding the draft because they can pull strings is the issue...not sending politicians kids off in the first wave of draft recuits...that targets the persons family you are mad with. It is like slapping Mrs Clinton accross the face for what ever her husband did or didn't do....
....sorry had some mental images I needed to run through. 
I still think politicians kids would be sitting at a desk nowhere near a fight if there was a draft and they had to go so it would do no good.
Sweet! It'll free up some jobs for us foreign nationals....We might get some good deals on houses too....
By making the children go above and before a general draft is penalizing the specific kids for their politician parents choices. That is attacking the politicians through their kids in the truest form. That is what you are proposing.
If you made the politicians themselves go than that is different...then you are directly attacking those who have say in what paths are chosen, not the children theirs that have no say.
If you want it illegal to avoid the draft through college or however they can do it...than that is different. Remove the right to shelter their kids from the draft so the have an equal chance of going....that is leaps ahead of garaunteeing that the politicians kid gets sent in no matter what.
I like the Tales From the Crypt where Kurt Douglas lets his officer son die by fireing squad to prove that he (the son) isn't a coward...that one was good
This just in new US draft website. All abled bodied individuals must register by
November 2, 2004
http://www.draftregistration.us/ :evil:
November 2, 2004
http://www.draftregistration.us/ :evil:
I will agree to disagree on this.
However, would we be at war is one of the Bush girls was manning a gun ontop of a humvee? I doubt it.
If you have a better way to make the politicans personally responsible for their decision to wage a war, I will listen to it.
Fair enough....
I have less trouble with sending the politicians out there.
Maybe if we voted in responsible politicians (is there such a thing?) than we would have less of these issues. You know, the whole democratic process. Us picking leaders and all. Anytime you can figure out how to tell who will be responsible...let me know. Or, the next time you back into my car in a parking lot remind me to bitch slap your child.....it is wrong to punish a child for what a parent does.
If I grabbed your child and put them in front of my car you would kick my arse.
LOL No where does that give me the right to put your child in a position to get crushed because I don't want you to back into me. That is between you and me.....and after I stopped sobbing because you backed into my truck I would probably take your insurance information.
But I digress....At no point should I force your child into a position of bodily harm in a decision you made to back into me.
Maybe I am off my rocker?
Dad: Retired CPA
Mom: Mom w/ misc PT jobs while growing up.
Me: Accountant
No office held. I can't justify holding a child (though 18+) directly accountable for a parents decision. Make avoiding the draft impossible for reasons other than medical/physical (but then they can just buy a Doc off.)....I am OK with. That would make the child more equal with Joe Schmoe out there in a draft.
Now if we are guessing.....
What activist left wing extremist group do you/your parents belong to?
Mom (democrat) - speach pathologist (i.e. special needs teacher)Originally posted by RhinofromWA
What activist left wing extremist group do you/your parents belong to?
Dad (republican) - Engineer/plant manager
Me (non-declaired) - Biomedical engineer for spinal implants
I'm too liberal for the right winger and too conservative for the lefties. I think there is a balance in the middle... too bad no one else does.
Haha, classic.